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Title: Social Security Bait And Switch, A Continuing Series
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URL Source: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... nd-switch-a-continuing-series/
Published: Oct 31, 2011
Author: PK
Post Date: 2011-10-31 09:53:48 by tom007
Keywords: None
Views: 574
Comments: 36

Social Security Bait And Switch, A Continuing Series

Dean Baker is angry at the Washington Post for spreading disinformation about Social Security. He’s right, of course — and it’s shocking that a well-known fallacy is the subject of a “news analysis” that purports to inform readers.

You see, the WaPo makes a big deal of the fact that Social Security is currently taking in less in payroll taxes than it’s paying out in benefits. Yet this means nothing, except as a favorite point used to create confusion by those who want to kill the program.

I’ve written about this repeatedly in the past, but here it is again: Social Security is a program that is part of the federal budget, but is by law supported by a dedicated source of revenue. This means that there are two ways to look at the program’s finances: in legal terms, or as part of the broader budget picture.

In legal terms, the program is funded not just by today’s payroll taxes, but by accumulated past surpluses — the trust fund. If there’s a year when payroll receipts fall short of benefits, but there are still trillions of dollars in the trust fund, what happens is, precisely, nothing — the program has the funds it needs to operate, without need for any Congressional action.

Alternatively, you can think about Social Security as just part of the federal budget. But in that case, it’s just part of the federal budget; it doesn’t have either surpluses or deficits, no more than the defense budget.

Both views are valid, depending on what questions you’re trying to answer.

What you can’t do is insist that the trust fund is meaningless, because SS is just part of the budget, then claim that some crisis arises when receipts fall short of payments, because SS is a standalone program. Yet that’s exactly what the WaPo claims.

This is what you call negative journalistic value added.

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#2. To: tom007 (#0)

Card carrying socialists (anyone with a SS card in their wallet) have unwittingly departed the republic and entered the socialist STATE.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-31   10:43:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#4)

Or wittingly

I agree with this analysis (wittingly)

So, if the SS Number (without which one may not buy or sell, since it's hard to buy without a job, is the "mark of the beast" ... do you see any way for those that accept it to avoid the accompanying "wine of the wrath of God" ???

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#13. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

I have noticed that many so-called believers do so as long as they're able to interpret metaphors or assign certain commentary to the "spiritual" meaning as they see it.

Christ stated that since he was persecuted we should expect it too. Yet, I see many of the modern church preaching the "prosperity" doctrine.

Far be it from me to proclaim a superior understanding of scripture than anyone else. It's just that whenever something troubling is stated in scripture like when Christ told the pharisees they were of their father the devil or be not like Cain who was "OF THAT WICKED ONE" ... all of a sudden out comes the "spiritual meaning" ...

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#32. To: Eric Stratton (#20)

One of my favorites is that "God wouldn't put his people through something like that." [The Great Tribulation]

Translation, he wouldn't allow martyrs as one counterexample to such folly.

God being infinite sees our lives from that perspective, as a mere vapor. What may appear to the human being as tragic or traumatic might seem negligible from God's perspective. (I'm just speculating).

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