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Title: OWS has transformed public opinion For the first time since the Great Depression, the majority of Americans favor wealth redistribution
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URL Source: http://www.salon.com/2011/10/31/how ... rmed_public_opinion/singleton/
Published: Nov 2, 2011
Author: Bob
Post Date: 2011-11-02 09:47:55 by tom007
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Views: 738
Comments: 70

OWS has transformed public opinion For the first time since the Great Depression, the majority of Americans favor wealth redistribution By Robert Reich

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Topics:Occupy Wall Street, Great Recession This originally appeared on Robert Reich's blog.

A combination of police crackdowns and bad weather are testing the young Occupy movement. But rumors of its demise are premature, to say the least. Although numbers are hard to come by, anecdotal evidence suggests the movement is growing.

As importantly, the movement has already changed the public debate in America.

Consider, for example, last week’s Congressional Budget Office report on widening disparities of income in America. It was hardly news – it’s already well known that the top 1 percent now gets 20 percent of the nation’s income, up from 9 percent in the late 1970s.

But it’s the first time such news made the front page of the nation’s major newspapers.

Why? Because for the first time in more than half a century, a broad cross-section of the American public is talking about the concentration of income, wealth and political power at the top.

Score a big one for the Occupiers.

Even more startling is the change in public opinion. Not since the 1930s has a majority of Americans called for redistribution of income or wealth. But according to a recent New York Times/CBS News poll, an astounding 66 percent of Americans said the nation’s wealth should be more evenly distributed.

A similar majority believes the rich should pay more in taxes. According to a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, even a majority of people who describe themselves as Republicans believe taxes should be increased on the rich.

I remember the days when even raising the subject of inequality made you a “class warrior.” Now, it seems, most Americans have become class warriors.

And they blame Republicans for stacking the deck in favor of the rich. On that New York Times/CBS News poll, 69 percent of respondents said Republican policies favor the rich (28 percent said the same of Obama’s policies).

The old view was anyone could make it in America with enough guts and gumption. We believed in the self-made man (or, more recently, woman) who rose from rags to riches – inventors and entrepreneurs born into poverty, like Benjamin Franklin; generations of young men from humble beginnings who grew up to became president, like Abe Lincoln. We loved the novellas of Horatio Alger, and their more modern equivalents – stories that proved the American dream was open to anyone who worked hard.

In that old view, being rich was proof of hard work, and lack of money proof of indolence or worse. As Herman Cain still says “if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself.”

But Cain’s line isn’t hitting a responsive chord. In fact, he’s backtracked from it (along with much of the rest of what he’s said).

A profound change has come over America. Guts, gumption, and hard work don’t seem to pay off as they once did – or at least as they did in our national morality play. Instead, the game seems rigged in favor of people who are already rich and powerful – as well as their children.

Instead of lionizing the rich, we’re beginning to suspect they gained their wealth by ripping us off.

Mitt Romney is defensive about his vast wealth (reputed to total a quarter of a billion). He’s reverted to scolding his audiences on the campaign trail for “attacking people based on heir success.”

The old view was also that great wealth trickled downward – that the rich made investments in jobs and growth that benefitted all of us. So even if we doubted we’d be wealthy, we still gained from the fortunes made by a few.

But that view, too, has lost its sheen. Nothing has trickled down. The rich have become far richer over the last three decades but the rest of us haven’t. In fact, median incomes are dropping.

Wall Street moguls are doing better than ever – after having been bailed out by the rest of us. But the rest of us are doing worse. CEOs are hauling in more than 300 times the pay of average workers (up from 40 times the pay only three decades ago), as average workers lose jobs, wages, and benefits.

Instead of investing in jobs and growth, the super rich are putting their money into gold or Treasury bills, or investing it in Brazil or South Asia or anywhere else it can reap the highest return.

Meanwhile, it’s dawning on Americans that in the real economy (as opposed to the financial one) our spending is vital. And without enough jobs or wages, that spending is drying up.

The economy is in trouble because so much income and wealth have been going to the top that the rest us no longer have the purchasing power to buy the goods and services we would produce at or near full employment.

The jobs depression shows no sign of ending. Personal disposable income, adjusted for inflation, was down 1.7 percent in the third quarter of this year – the biggest drop since the third quarter of 2009. Housing prices have stalled, home sales are down.

The only reason consumer spending rose in September is because we drew from our meager savings – mostly in order to pay medical bills, health insurance, and utilities. That’s the third month of savings declines, according to the Commerce Department’s report last Friday.

This can’t and won’t continue. Savings are now down to 3.6 percent of personal disposable income, their lowest level since the recession began.

Americans know a rigged game when they see one. They understand how much money is flowing into politics from the super rich, big corporations, and Wall Street — in order to keep their taxes low and entrench their privileged position.

The Occupy movement is gaining ground because it’s hitting a responsive chord. What happens from here on depends on whether other Americans begin to march to the music — and organize.

Robert Reich, a professor of public policy at the University of California at Berkeley, was secretary of labor during the Clinton administration. He is also a blogger and the author of "Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future."More Robert Reich

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#2. To: tom007 (#0)

Not one sentence from Robert Reich about Congress and the Federal Reserve and their responsibility for our sour economy due to decades of institutional fraud.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-02   10:35:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

The problem with this OWS movement, at least as I am seeing it re: the majority of the protestors, is that these are not "entrepreneurial types," even the spokespeople.

Here you go again Eric. Not everybody is entrepreneurial material, just as everybody isn't a surgical doctor. If you are an entrepreneur, thank your lucky stars that you have that ability.

Why not some income redistribution? The rich have all the money and are grubbing for more. They have so much money and power they have bribed our representatives in government and corrupted our system and economy. The way you support the 1%, it looks like they made all that money the old fashioned way, they earned it. I hate to tell you this, but all that wealth has blood all over it. I do not believe there are very honest businesses today! They all have their hands out grubbing for handoutd, bailouts and their corrupt friends in government keeps taking from the 99% and giving the 1% whatever they want with no concerne for the rest of us including small businesses.

It is past time this economic bubble burst and we need to start all over. There needs to prosecutions of those who have stolen from and destroyed our economic system. Hope that doesn't include you.

By the way, there wasn't anything in my panties that was irritating. Only you trying to get behind me and doing a nasty deed. I didn't know you were a "backdoor" guy!

ambi  posted on  2011-11-02   11:48:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: ambi, Eric Stratton (#18)

Here you go again Eric. Not everybody is entrepreneurial material, just as everybody isn't a surgical doctor. If you are an entrepreneur, thank your lucky stars that you have that ability.

Why not some income redistribution? The rich have all the money and are grubbing for more.

Actually I agree on some points with both of you.

First not all of the top 1% got there by being crooks. Some got there by hard work and building a better mouse trap. I have no quarrel with them.

As for the Bankster crooks who stole, cheated, defrauded, and murdered there way to wealth it should be nothing less than total confiscation of all of their ill gotten gains - and were it in my power they would spend the rest of their life at hard labor.

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#49. To: Eric Stratton, ambi (#37)

Otherwise, as to your statement, on the surface I would agree with you.

But that's like saying that there are honest people in the mob.

While agreeing with many, if not all, of your caveats I look at it on the basis of "exchange". Has the person who has accumulated great wealth provided a good or service which was the basis of a sound exchange as opposed to a criminal exchange (something for nothing)?

I would suggest that Steve Jobs provided an abundant exchange by producing products, and providing services, which basically transformed the world of Personal Computing. Whereas I would not say the same about Bill Gates - who had connections all the way and when Apple threatened to leave MicroSloth in the dust stole Job's innovations and produced Windows - getting away with it because of a corrupt court.

Steven King has certainly earned his place as both one of the most popular and most prolific writers of his time.

However, there is enough truth in what you say to provide strong support for your position. Certainly the Banksters, the Financial Services Industry, and the War Junkies have made their killing through Crony Capitalism - which is to a Free Market as Fascism is to a Free Society.

I think you're too hard on ambi though. Yes, I agree that using government to take from one to give to another by force is wrong, but I think there is a real heart there, but the reasoning has not gone back to basic and asked the question and confronted the answer, "When is it just to take the labors of the productive to give to the unproductive, and how do such Robin Hood antics affect those at the bottom of the economic pyramid?" The problem with any sort of socialist regime is that it relies on the enforced exaction of the labors of one to provide for another who is capable of supporting themselves if they were forced to.

However, I do not think the Bankster Criminals are not worthy of, nor have earned, their "pound of flesh".

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