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Title: 9,000 year old Caucasian mummy found in Nevada
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Published: Nov 3, 2011
Author: bikini1212
Post Date: 2011-11-03 21:38:16 by Original_Intent
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Keywords: archaeology, North America, mummy, mystery
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"> Poster Comment: I suspect that the real reason that the Paiute's do not want the mummy DNA tested is because if it is Caucasoid, as is "Kennewick Man" it provides another data point showing that the Indians were NOT the first inhabitants of the North American Continent. So, the real reason is ethnic politics. Of course there will be narrow parochial assertions made by the "White is Right" crowd as though this proves anything beyond the established evidence suggesting that North America has been inhabited much longer than the Lamestream Archaeologists wish to put forth and by more than one group having disparate geographical origins. Both groups are likely to have hissy fits.
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#7. To: Original_Intent (#0)
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Do you have a reference? It is not that I doubt you I would just like to read the reference. So far as I am aware of I have not heard or read of any North American tribe that practiced mummification. My only reference is an interest in local tribes and history. I've been reading up on them for fifteen years and I've never read that they preserved their dead via mummification. Have you ever read about the Paiute stories surrounding the red headed giants with two sets of teeth and six digits on their fingers/toes? According to Paiute legend they lived in caves around Winnemucca and they battled them to the death. " If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
LOL! I've encountered some references on Giants. Not the specific ones you are speaking of but of a similar type in Patagonia - and there were still a few around at the time of the first European explorers, but they seem to have died out. David Hatcher Childress speaks of them in his book on "Lost Cities and Ancient Mysteries of South America". Although I have read of them elsewhere.
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#9. To: FWMale (#6)
thanks, Mike..I am going to watch this. I found your post very interesting!
#10. To: abraxas (#2)
The Paiutes have never been known for mummification of their dead ancestors.....
#11. To: Original_Intent (#10)
Do you have a reference? It is not that I doubt you I would just like to read the reference.
#12. To: Eric Stratton (#5)
9,000 year old Caucasian mummy
#13. To: abraxas (#11)
#14. To: Original_Intent (#12)
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
#15. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#0)
related video
-Alex Kurtagic
#16. To: christine (#9)
The people depicted in this video would be elated to have our way of life. Survival in those days must have required a good deal of nerve and stamina.
"the man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, “Limit yourself”; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." Murray Rothbard
#17. To: FWMale, original_intent, abraxas (#6)
humor me here; if the white man inhabited merika eons before the injuns, how were they all removed, if they were so superior? was it the dinosours that killed them off, er what?
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#18. To: Original_Intent (#0)
They have done the same things about proof of cannibalism. IIRC that was in the US southwest too. Both groups are likely to have hissy fits. Not me. It's just interesting. There is nothing relevant about it. I suspect that the real reason that the Paiute's do not want the mummy DNA tested is because if it is Caucasoid, as is "Kennewick Man" it provides another data point showing that the Indians were NOT the first inhabitants of the North American Continent. So, the real reason is ethnic politics.
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#19. To: Eric Stratton (#5)
:-)
#20. To: Original_Intent (#0)
So we finally know what happened to cynicom?
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#21. To: FWMale (#6)
I became interested in this about 6 months ago and thanks for the book & YouTube recommendation. I'll be getting the book and watching the 'tube, thanks. Solutrean Hypothesis.
#22. To: Critter (#20)
oh shit! :p So we finally know what happened to cynicom?
-Alex Kurtagic
#23. To: Critter, Cynicom (#20)
LOL :)
#24. To: Artisan (#17)
The Paiutes killed off those red headed whities.......guess those red heads weren't so superior after all. umor me here; if the white man inhabited merika eons before the injuns, how were they all removed, if they were so superior?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#25. To: Original_Intent (#13)
David Hatcher Childress speaks of them in his book on "Lost Cities and Ancient Mysteries of South America" I probably stumbled on that over at Steven Quayle's site.......he has a lot of research information posted on giants and pics too, but none of those dastardly red headed giants. : ) I'll have to check that book out.....thanks for the tip. I've encountered some references on Giants.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#26. To: Critter, Cynicom, Phant2000 (#20)
Hee, hee. So we finally know what happened to cynicom?
#27. To: abraxas (#25) (Edited)
You're welcome. He owns his own publishing company so all of his books, and many other hard to find titles which he has resurrected out of the mainstream archaeology and a variety of arcana, are located here: Adventures Unlimited Press
#28. To: Artisan, abraxas, FWMale (#17)
Good question and there is no simple answer because we are shy of any definitive evidence. First let me make clear I do not subscribe to the Solutrean Hypothesis - it relies on too short of a timeline as I think that North America was inhabited well before 17,000 years ago, and the hypothesis appears racially motivated. Now I don't reject it because of the implied racism because I go where the evidence goes. I also don't do as the lamestream archaeologists do and try to fit the facts to my preferred theory. The Solutrean Hypothesis also fails because it sticks pretty much to the lamestream chronology for the advent of mankind onto this continent, and that timeline falls woefully short of accounting for all of the evidence. Take for example the following sculptures: Now if I told you that those head sculptures had come out of Central Africa they would not at all be out of place. The broad lips and the wide flaring nose are typical of the Negroid peoples of Central and Southern Africa. What makes them out of place is that they were excavated in the area of the Yucatan that was inhabited by the Olmec Culture. What were Negroes doing in Southern Mexico/Central America in 3,000 B.C. which is the standard timeframe given for the existence of the Olmecs? Evidently they were there in sufficient numbers, or with sufficient frequency, to be immortalized in Olmec sculpture. I don't have an answer which explains it I just know what the evidence is. Standard lamestream archaeology tries to explain them away as just being "stylized" carvings that coincidentally, in great numbers, look like what we today would call Black Africans. As to the caucasoid types being wiped out that is refutable as well as the Mandan Indian Tribe of North Dakota (now extinct due to smallpox) had natural blondes and redheads and had people with blue, gray, and hazel eyes. In fact the early explorers called them the "White" Indians. While no doubt of mixed blood some of the East coast and Central Plains tribes have Roman and Phoenician features. I had a good friend who was a full blood Warm Springs Tribe Indian, and you could have put him into a Roman Centurion's uniform without him looking the least out of place - complete with noble Roman Nose. I could continue on with this for a while. Just one last example - Virginia Steen-McIntyre and the dating of the site uncovered at Hueyatlaco - in 1962. Rather than reinvent the wheel here is an excerpt from Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson's book "The Hidden History of the Human Race": As the above illustrates trying to get an accurate picture is problematic because lamestream Anthropologists and Archaeologists are wedded to a specific DOGMA concerning human evolution. Any data, no matter how well sourced, (and in some cases it is better sourced than the data used to support the lamestream) is summarily rejected because it contradicts the accepted theory and therefore cannot possibly be true because the theories that are dominant conflict with the actual observed data. So, returning to your question, I do not know who first inhabited the North American Continent. I would suggest that the suppositions and speculations in the lamestream textbooks are so off the mark of the truth as to be laughable, but I do not have a final answer. I could offer a speculation but it would take a post twice as long as this one just to begin to support it. However, just for fun let me tease you. What if there were a previous globe spanning civilization and they did themselves in, in a global thermonuclear war? There is evidence to suggest that someone in the distant past had nuclear weapons, just as there is evidence of high tech power tools having been used in constructing some of the pyramids and monuments of Egypt. There is a lot of information not in the mainstream which the mainstream keeps buried and will not even discuss because it totally blows apart the "popular" theories. humor me here; if the white man inhabited merika eons before the injuns, how were they all removed, if they were so superior? was it the dinosours that killed them off, er what?
"In the 1960s, sophisticated stone tools rivaling the best work of Cro-magnon man in Europe were unearthed by Juan Armenta Camacho and Cynthia Irwin-Williams at Hueyatlaco, near Valsequillo, 75 miles southeast of Mexico City.
Stone tools of a somewhat cruder nature were found at the nearby site of El Horno. At both the Hueyatlaco and El Horno sites, the stratigraphic location of the implements does not seem to be in doubt. However, these artifacts do have a very controversial feature: a team of geologists who worked for the U.S. Geological Survey gave them ages of about 250,000 years.
The geologists involved said four different dating methods independently yielded unusually great ages for the artifacts found near Valsequillo. The dating methods used were (1) uranium series dating, (2) fission track dating, (3) tephra hydration dating, and (4) study of mineral weathering. As might be imagined, the date of about 250,000 years obtained for Hueyatlaco by the team of geologists provoked a great deal of controversy. If accepted, it would have revolutionized not only New World anthropology but the whole picture of human origins. Human beings capable of making the sophisticated tools found at Hueyatlaco are not thought to have come into existence until about 100,000 years ago in Africa.
In attempting to get her team's conclusions published, Virginia Steen-McIntyre experienced many social pressures and obstacles. In a note to a colleague (July 10, 1976), she stated, "I had found out through backfence gossip that Hal, Roald, and I are considered opportunists and publicity seekers in some circles, because of Hueyatlaco, and I am still smarting from the blow."
The publication of a paper by Steen-McIntyre and her colleagues on Hueyatlaco was inexplicably held up for years. The paper was first presented at an anthropological conference in 1975 and was to appear in a symposium volume.
Four years later, Steen-McIntyre wrote to H. J. Fullbright of the Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory, one of the editors of the forever forthcoming book, "Our joint article on the Hueyatlaco site is a real bombshell. It would place man in the New World 10x earlier than many archaeologists would like to believe. Worse, the bifacial tools that were found in situ are thought by most to be a sign of H. sapiens. According to present theory, H.s. had not even evolved at that time, and certainly not in the New World." Steen-McIntyre continued, explaining, "Archaeologists are in a considerable uproar over Hueyatlaco. They refuse even to consider it. I've learned from second-hand sources that I'm considered by various members of the profession to be 1) incompetent; 2) a news monger; 3) an opportunist; 4) dishonest; 5) a fool. Obviously, none of these opinions is helping my professional reputation! My only hope to clear my name is to get the Hueyatlaco article into print so that folks can judge the evidence for themselves." Steen-McIntyre, upon receiving no answer to this and other requests for information, withdrew the article. But her manuscript was never returned to her.
A year later, Steen-McIntyre wrote (February 8, 1980) to Steve Porter about having her article about Hueyatlaco printed. "The ms I'd like to submit gives the geologic evidence," she said. "It's pretty clear-cut, and if it weren't for the fact a lot of anthropology textbooks will have to be rewritten, I don't think we would have had any problems getting the archaeologists to accept it. As it is, no anthro journal will touch it with a ten-foot pole."
Steve Porter wrote to Steen-McIntyre (February 25, 1980), replying that he would consider the controversial article for publication. But he said he could well imagine that objective reviews may be a bit difficult to obtain from certain archaeologists. The usual procedure in scientific publishing is for an article to be submitted to several other scientists for anonymous peer review. It is not hard to imagine how an entrenched scientific orthodoxy could manipulate this process to keep unwanted information out of scientific journals.
On March 30, 1981, Steen-McIntyre wrote to Estella Leopold, "The problem as I see it is much bigger than Hueyatlaco. It concerns the manipulation of scientific thought through the suppression of 'Enigmatic Data,' data that challenges the prevailing mode of thinking. Hueyatlaco certainly does that! Not being an anthropologist, I didn't realize the full significance of our dates back in 1973, nor how deeply woven into our thought the current theory of human evolution had become. Our work at Hueyatlaco has been rejected by most archaeologists because it contradicts that theory, period. Their reasoning is circular. H. sapiens sapiens evolved ca. 30,000-50,000 years ago in Eurasia. Therefore any H.s.s. tools 250,000 years old found in Mexico are impossible because H.s.s. evolved ca 30,000. Such thinking makes for self-satisfied archaeologists but lousy science!"
Eventually, Quaternary Research (1981) published an article by Virginia Steen-McIntyre, Roald Fryxell, and Harold E. Malde. It upheld an age of 250,000 years for the Hueyatlaco site. Of course, it is always possible to raise objections to archeological dates, and Cynthia Irwin-Williams did so in a letter responding to Steen-McIntyre, Fryxell, and Malde. Her objections were answered point for point in a counter-letter by Malde and Steen-McIntyre. But Irwin-Williams did not relent. The anomalous findings at Hueyatlaco resulted in personal abuse and professional penalties, including withholding of funds and loss of job, facilities, and reputation for Virginia Steen- McIntyre.
Her case opens a rare window into the actual social processes of data suppression in paleoanthropology, processes that involve a great deal of conflict and hurt. A final note: we ourselves once tried to secure permission to reproduce photographs of the Hueyatlaco artifacts in a publication. We were informed that permission would be denied if we intended to mention the lunatic fringe date of 250,000 years."
#29. To: Original_Intent (#28)
Without expanding much further than this - I believe there have been many globe trotting peoples throughout history. Seafaring people have been circumnavigating the earth since the days of Noah. What if there were a previous globe spanning civilization
"the man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, “Limit yourself”; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." Murray Rothbard
#30. To: noone222 (#29)
I agree. There is sufficient evidence to pretty well infer that there have been advanced cultures on this planet prior to our own. Once one removes the blinders of academia's insular provincialistic narrowmindedness which is aimed less at discovery and more at protecting turf then one can begin to see the accumulated evidence. A quote I'm fond of and have used before is a comment by James Burke which is to the effect that people only see what their knowledge and preconceptions allow them to see. Thus the sun revolved around the earth for hundreds of years and Copernicus would only allow his work to be published after his death - he was allergic to stakes, fires, and Iron Maidens. While the penalties today for daring to disagree with the academic opinion masters is somewhat less than during the inquisition it is no less brutally enforced. Daring to disagree with the dominant figures and theories is academic death by a thousand cuts. Regardless of how well something is documented or the volume of accumulated evidence if one dares to draw a conclusion from the evidence outside of the strictures of the approved dogma it is academic banishment as a non-person. However, fuck them. I go where the evidence goes and since I am not in academia I am not bound by their narrow minded limitations nor required to offer obeisance to their idols and dogmas. I do not worship at the altar of Darwin nor do I feel bound to circumscribe my thought, observations, and reasoning by their self imposed limitations. This planet has before seen a nuclear war. Of that I have little doubt. It would take quite a while to muster all of the physical evidence and the circumstantial but it is quite voluminous when you start digging into it. No, the war torn history of this planet is yet to be fully told or even explored. So, in my own wonder and curiosity I carry on while I laugh at the little tin gods of academia.
#31. To: Original_Intent (#28)
Thanks for the fascinating & educational post! Very interesting.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#32. To: Original_Intent (#30) (Edited)
How many micro biologists have been found dead with big question marks floating over their heads over the past decade? While the penalties today for daring to disagree with the academic opinion masters is somewhat less than during the inquisition it is no less brutally enforced.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#33. To: Artisan (#31)
You are most welcome. Glad to be of service.
#34. To: abraxas, Artisan, noone222, wudidiz, farmfriend (#32)
How many micro biologists have been found dead with big question marks floating over their heads over the past decade? A couple hundred by now. And a sprinkling of others from other fields. No doubt they knew too much. However, that is government and while I do not deride your point the one I am trying to make, indirectly, is that there is what Michael Cremo calls "The Knowledge Filter" which eliminates from discussion, or even consideration, any data or evidence that does not conform to the accepted academic dogma. And it is dogma and NOT science. Thomas Kuhn did a very good deconstruction of how mainstream science actually works in his volume "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions". The lamestream prefers to ignore Kuhn because his truths make them very uncomfortable. The scientific method requires examination and consideration of all data and when that data is validated then the theory MUST be revised to accomodate the new data OR totally re-written into a new theory which DOES account for ALL of the data. The arbiters of "Academic Correctness" are tied up into the theories and postulations which are taught as academic verities which are NOT to be questioned or submitted to examination. As I pointed out to another interlocutor several years ago even those who stray a little bit are attacked with great vigor and malice. Robert Heinlein summarized it nicely saying that about 80% of all who claim to be scientists are in reality academicians who are not inclined to the hard thought that goes with examining and reconsidering supposedly "settled" science. The "Academic Mindset" is different than the "Scientific Mindset" as it regards anything written in an accepted text as the "absolute" and final word on the subject. As the late Dr. John W. Campbell pointed out in his brilliant essay on the Scientific Method real science is never quite sure of itself it uses uncertain phrases like "based upon", "the current data suggests", etc., rather than the satisfying, but unscientific, certitudes of the academic. Heinlein went on to point out that the other 20% who are actually practicing science are often ostracized and derided as "kooks" by their contemporaries and in the main will mostly come up with refinements in existing theory and that from about 2 1/2% of those "kooks", who are regarded as absolute fruitcakes, from them come most all of the revolutionary advances in human thought, science, and technology. (Although some of them really are fruitcakes so you pays your money and you takes your chances.) My experience has taught me that both Campbell and Heinlein were pretty much dead on the money. Another anti-scientific trend in recent decades - say from about 1930 on - is what I call credentiation. That is that someone speaking from outside a given community is immediately derided and attacked as not having the right to speak to a subject because they don't have the right pieces of paper to show that they have received the correct catechism. There are probably not 5 men on the planet who know more about Egyptology than John Anthony West, a self-taught archaeologist, and though he has written multiple books on the subject he is not allowed to speak at, and in some cases even attend, symposia or conferences. It was West who pointed out that the water erosion, validated by Geologist Dr. Robert Schoch, evident on the Sphinx and its sandstone enclosure were not consistent with a desert environment, and that the degree of water erosion evident could only have been produced in an environment with much heavier rainfall than a desert. The problem with that is that the Giza Plateau has been a desert since about 8,000 B.C.. So, the logical conclusion that the Sphinx was built prior to that climactic change is rejected out of hand by the Academic Lamestream not because it is bad science, it is not, but because it disturbs the accepted chronology which says the Sphinx was constructed by the Pharaoh Chephren about 3,500 years ago. Accepting the geologically derived date also pushes back the time horizon for advanced civilization, and works, to predate Sumer by several thousand years at a minimum. Another heretic without the right "papers" would be Master Machinist Christopher Dunn - again self taught who has studied extensively the technology that was used to construct the pyramids and other structures on Giza. While he can cite volumes of evidence to support his contentions Academia will not even speak of him let alone speak to him. How Dare He! Why, why, he does not even have an undergraduate degree in Archaeology. Harummmmmph! The nerrrrrrrrrrrve! Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson who wrote the epochal book "Forbidden Archaeology" extensively researched the thousand page fruit of their labors and although the lamestream academics cannot refute them, which Cremo has proven so well they will no longer even try to debate him, the lamestream still engages in smears and personal attacks. However, they cannot refute him and the book is thoroughly footnoted taking its reports and evidence from a wide range of academic journals and reports that have been forgotten and swept under the carpet because they "do not fit" the accepted dogmas. That they cannot refute Cremo and Thompson just galls the bejeezus out of them. Cremo has chewed up and spit out so many "Professional Archaeologists" that it has become a constant embarrassment to the lamestream. While the penalties today for daring to disagree with the academic opinion masters is somewhat less than during the inquisition it is no less brutally enforced.
#35. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#13)
here is a link with some info on the giants you have both referenced Steve Quayle just click on the giants button, or any others you may wish.
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#36. To: IRTorqued (#35)
He's got a lot of interesting stuff over there. Thanks for posting that link. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#37. To: IRTorqued (#35)
Thanks. I think I've visited his site before, but it has been a while.
#38. To: PSUSA2 (#18)
Would it be relevant to you if the mummy was a mammy? Not me. It's just interesting. There is nothing relevant about it.
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
#39. To: abraxas (#11)
No, I have never heard of the Paiute stories, but it is interesting to note that the Chinese refer to us as Guilos(sp?) which loosely translates as red-headed devils. We clearly don't have red hair, so it is peculiar that this 5,000 year old culture would retain such a description of us. Have you ever read about the Paiute stories surrounding the red headed giants
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
#40. To: noone222, O_I (#29)
i believe there was a created people before us on our planet.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#41. To: Original_Intent (#30)
There is sufficient evidence to pretty well infer that there have been advanced cultures on this planet prior to our own.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#42. To: angK, abraxas (#39)
A site was excavated in China where the remains of several mummified bodies were recovered - they were red headed Caucasoids. Here, found an article: THE CAUCASIANS OF CHINA. I think NOVA had an episode on them too - at least a dozen or more years ago. I was reading about Ghengis Khan and evidently he had a famous ancestor who was a red head.
#43. To: Rotara (#40)
I don't know anything other than that we haven't been fully informed about much since we were born and in many instances we've been mis-informed. Biblically speaking, mention is made relative to vacant cities that once were populated. i believe there was a created people before us on our planet.
"the man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, “Limit yourself”; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." Murray Rothbard
#44. To: Original_Intent (#42)
A fascinating article. Thank you. I was wondering what ancient racial memory would prompt the Chinese to call us red-headed devils. A site was excavated in China where the remains of several mummified bodies were recovered - they were red headed Caucasoids. Here, found an article: THE CAUCASIANS OF CHINA.
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
#45. To: noone222 (#43)
that's right. not to mention a study of the nephilim. Biblically speaking, mention is made relative to vacant cities that once were populated.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#46. To: Rotara (#45)
So much is thusfar unexplained. We have a very mysterious past that indicates to me a high potential for a mysterious / bizarre future. that's right. not to mention a study of the nephilim.
"the man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, “Limit yourself”; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." Murray Rothbard
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