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Title: Paul: I Don't Want to Run as an Independent
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Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... s-independent/?test=latestnews
Published: Nov 6, 2011
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2011-11-06 19:05:49 by Phant2000
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Views: 320
Comments: 14
Texas Rep. Ron Paul, fresh off a win in the Illinois Republicans presidential candidate straw poll, is ruling out an independent bid for the White House, saying he doesn't want to go that route. "I have no intention doing that. That doesn't make sense to me to even think about it, let alone plan to do that," Paul told "Fox News Sunday." Asked why, Paul responded: "Because I don't want to do it. That's the reason." But Paul said that if he's not the nominee, he's not certain that he would support the GOP nominee. "Probably not unless I get to talk to them and find out what they believe in. But if they believe on expanding the wars, if they don't believe in looking at the Federal Reserve; if they don't believe in real cuts, if they don't believe in deregulation and better tax system, it would defy everything I believe in," Paul said. "And so, therefore, I would be reluctant to jump on board and tell all of the supporters that have given me trust and money that all of a sudden, I'd say, all we've done is for naught. So, let's support anybody at all ... even if they disagree with everything that we do," Paul added. The three-time presidential candidate, and one-time Libertarian nominee, gave as an example Herman Cain, whose recent scrutiny over alleged sexual harassment claims isn't what bothers Paul. "The allegations against his program, he's liking, you know, the Federal Reserve and his national sales tax -- yes, they are very legitimate and his support for bailouts, those allegations are very legitimate. Those other allegations, these problems that he had -- no, I don't think, I think the media blew this way out of proportion," Paul said. "He believes in the bailouts and the Federal Reserve and all this. I think that's what we should be talking about." Paul said his proposal for getting the economy back on track would be to cut $1 trillion in the first year of his administration, and balance the budget in three years so that spending would be 15.5 percent of the gross domestic product. But that would put government's ratio of GDP at its lowest level since 1951, and think tanks like the conservative American Enterprise Institute argue those kinds of dramatic short-term cuts would send the country back into a recession. Paul said that's the argument made after World War II, when the budget dropped by 60 percent and taxes by 30 percent while 10 million people returned from war. "We finally had an economic boom for the first time since the 1920s," Paul said of that time. Among the cuts Paul is pursuing is to reduce the National Institutes of Health budget by 22 percent, reduce funding for the Centers for Disease Control by 38 percent. Paul said those are two examples of functions that government is not properly authorized to conduct and get caught up in special interests and lobbying. Research and development would be put on much smarter footing if the market conducts it, he added, because "when government makes a mistake, it hurts everybody. If a businessman makes a mistake in R&D, it hurts only that company." "If you take all these resources out of the hands of the government, that doesn't mean the money isn't going to be spent. It means that the individuals are going to be spending it," he said. Paul took a similar approach toward foreign policy, saying deploying troops, dropping drones in Pakistan, isolating countries like Iran through sanctions and spending $4 trillion over a decade to impose U.S. policy is hurting national security.
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#1. To: Phant2000 (#0)
Paul - the only candidate fit to be president.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson Ron doesn't want to run as an independent but he never closed the door on the possibility that he might if he doesn't get the nomination. And if there is rampant vote fraud like there was the last time he ran then he should run as an independent. There is no one else running who will honor the oath they are required to take and Ron, so far as I know, always has.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein "...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Agreed. It's way too early to be asking this kind of question. Unless they're going to ask Cain, Romney and Perry the same question now as well. Paul's answer was perfect. Shut the door on it. For now.
Ron is not a stupid man and Chris Wallace is not going to get over on him no matter how early he gets up. Ron knows that if he answered that question the way Wallace was trying to get him to answer it that he might as well drop out of the running for the R nomination right then.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein "...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Yes, it's a sabotage op. But maybe seeing them try this is a good sign that they know he's got a strong position for the R nomination.
I think they understand that if there was such a thing as an honest nomination process that Ron would be the hands down winner. Could be the reason why Ron is getting more air time lately. Not that they are trying to help him but (imo) they don't want it blatantly obvious even to the brain dead that they are trying to sabotage the only decent guy running.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein "...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
I do think the MSM does have it's points of vulnerability. Stories that get too big to contain they have to report even though they'd prefer not to. Doesn't mean they can't skew the reporting but they at least are forced to do something they'd rather not. What's happening with RP may be an example.
Yes, their bias is pretty blatant. As you well know Ron is against ALL foreign aid and has never denied that. However, when it came up in one of the so-called "debates" what did the headlines in all the birdcage liners say the next day? Paul Wants to End Aid to Israel. In reality he wants to end all foreign aid because the Constitution does not authorize it. But they thought that they would make Ron look like an anti Semite with a biased headline.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein "...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Time for a shameless plug to promote http://www.onedollardvdproject.com/Videos/ronpaul2012/ Hundreds and hundreds have already been shipped. Praise Jesus. ~~~~~~~ The OneDollarDVDProject needs patriot activists who said there was rampant vote fraud last time? Paul said nothing about that, which disappointed many supporters who had really promoted him. The arguement was. if he's gonna do it, then damn it run for real & FIGHT the crooks.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
A lot of people did. It seemed pretty obvious. And yes, Ron should have said something about it and if you ask me why he didn't I don't know. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein "...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
It might have been a bad tactical move. Kinda like when you know the bad guys have the upper hand but if you try to call them on it, it's certain to backfire. Unlike in all the movies where the bad guys always lose, real life is recognizing when you've got to move on, be patient, and bide your time. Ron Paul has always shown himself to have his feet well planted on the ground. I think he's a pragmatist when it comes to knowing how to conduct himself, while still being an outstanding idealist when it comes to Constitutional principles. I think he knows when to exercise both attributes which is the reason for his success in getting and holding his C seat for so long, and making such an impact on the presidential race, not just this time but last time too. In fact I think the impact he had in the 08 race exceeded even his own expectations. Though he didn't win he absolutely made a difference. This time, however, RP isn't concerned with his congressional seat so maybe that would convince him to challenge any voting irregularities. He'll have nothing to lose this time.
That is probably the best explanation. I guess Ron didn't want people saying that the only reason he challenged it was because he lost--most folks have been dumbed down to the point that they don't know that someone can get the most votes and still "lose" with the help of the black boxes. But when exit polls show someone is winning pretty handily and then their vote totals don't even come close it makes me go hmmmmm.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein "...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
it was indeed obvious, which is precisely why Paul's silence made it appear he was disingenuous or complicit.Ill give him the benefit of doubt & suggest maybe he thought it was hopeless & to stick with his 'long fight' for liberty education. However, "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#2. To: Phant2000 (#0)
#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
Ron doesn't want to run as an independent but he never closed the door on the possibility that he might if he doesn't get the nomination.
#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)
#5. To: James Deffenbach (#4)
#6. To: Pinguinite (#5)
#7. To: James Deffenbach (#6)
#8. To: Pinguinite (#7)
#9. To: Phant2000 (#0)
(Edited)
the "Ron Paul 2012" DVD. 
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?
#10. To: James Deffenbach, pinguinite (#2)
#11. To: Artisan (#10)
who said there was rampant vote fraud last time?
#12. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
#13. To: Pinguinite (#12)
#14. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
(contd) However, i think by his submission to the black boxes, he did do a disservice to all those who put it so much time, money & effort to his candidacy. We all deserve better.
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