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Title: Correcting the ‘fairy tale’: A SEAL’s account of how Osama bin Laden really died
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URL Source: http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/07/c ... bin-laden-really-died/?print=1
Published: Nov 7, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-11-07 21:30:09 by Eric Stratton
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Views: 305
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Correcting the ‘fairy tale’: A SEAL’s account of how Osama bin Laden really died

Forget whatever you think you know about the night Osama bin Laden was killed. According to a former Navy SEAL who claims to have the inside track, the mangled tales told of that historic night have only now been corrected.

“It became obvious in the weeks evolving after the mission that the story that was getting put out there was not only untrue, but it was a really ugly farce of what did happen,” said Chuck Pfarrer, author of Seal Target Geronimo: The Inside Story of the Mission to Kill Osama Bin Laden.

In an extensive interview with The Daily Caller, Pfarrer gave a detailed account of why he believes the record needed to be corrected, and why he set out to share the personal stories of the warriors who penetrated bin Laden’s long-secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

In August the New Yorker delivered a riveting blow-by-blow of the SEALs’ May 1, 2011 raid on bin Laden’s hideaway. In that account, later reported to lack contributions from the SEALs involved, readers are taken through a mission that began with a top-secret helicopter crashing and led to a bottom-up assault of the Abbottabad compound.

Freelancer Nicholas Schmidle wrote that the SEALs had shot and blasted their way up floor-by-floor, finally cornering the bewildered Al-Qaida leader:

“The Al Qaeda chief, who was wearing a tan shalwar kameez and a prayer cap on his head, froze; he was unarmed. ‘There was never any question of detaining or capturing him—it wasn’t a split-second decision. No one wanted detainees,’ the special-operations officer told me. (The Administration maintains that had bin Laden immediately surrendered he could have been taken alive.) Nine years, seven months, and twenty days after September 11th, an American was a trigger pull from ending bin Laden’s life. The first round, a 5.56-mm. bullet, struck bin Laden in the chest. As he fell backward, the SEAL fired a second round into his head, just above his left eye.”

Chuck Pfarrer rejects almost all of that story.

“The version of the 45-minute firefight, and the ground-up assault, and the cold-blooded murder on the third floor — that wasn’t the mission,” Pfarrer told TheDC.

“I had to try and figure out, well, look: Why is this story not what I’m hearing? Why is it so off and how is it so off?” he recounted. “One of the things I sort of determined was, OK, somebody was told ‘one of the insertion helicopters crashed.’ OK, well that got muddled to ‘a helicopter crashed on insertion.’”

The helicopters, called “Stealth Hawks,” are inconspicuous machines concealing cutting-edge technology. They entered the compound as planned, with “Razor 1" disembarking its team of SEALs on the roof of the compound — not on the ground level. There was no crash landing. That wouldn’t occur until after bin Laden was dead.

Meanwhile, “Razor 2" took up a hovering position so that its on-board snipers, some of whom had also participated in the sea rescue of Maersk Alabama captain Richard Phillips, had a clear view of anyone fleeing the compound.

The SEALs then dropped down from the roof, immediately penetrated the third floor, and hastily encountered bin Laden in his room. He was not standing still.

“He dived across the king-size bed to get at the AKSU rifle he kept by the headboard,” wrote Pfarrer in his book. It was at that moment, a mere 90 seconds after the SEALs first set foot on the roof, that two American bullets shattered bin Laden’s chest and head, killing a man who sought violence to the very end.

President Obama stepped up to a podium in the East Room of the White House that night to announce bin Laden’s death. That rapid announcement, explained Pfarrer, posed a major threat to U.S. national security.

“There was a choice that night,” Pfarrer told TheDC. “There was a choice to keep the mission secret.” America, Pfarrer explained, could have left things alone for “weeks or months … even though there was evidence left on the ground there … and use the intelligence and finish off al-Qaida.”

But Obama’s announcement, he said, “rendered moot all of the intelligence that was gathered from the nexus of al-Qaida. The computer drives, the hard drives, the videocasettes, the CDs, the thumb drives, everything. Before that could even be looked through, the political decision was made to take credit for the operation.”

And in the days that followed, as politicians sought to thrust their identities into the details of the bin Laden kill, the tale began to grow out of control, said Pfarrer.

“The president made a statement, and as far as that goes, that was fine, that was the mission statement,” he explained. “But, soon after … politicians began leaking information from every orifice. And it was like a game of Chinese telephone. These guys didn’t know what they were talking about. Very few of them had even seen the video feed.”

Pfarrer suggests that much of the misinformation was likely born out of operational ignorance, even among those sitting in the White House.

“One of the things that happened was that there were only a handful of people who know about this mission,” he said. “On the civilian side, there were only a handful of people in the situation room who were watching the drone feed. They were looking at the roof of a building taken from a rotating aircraft at 35,000 feet.”

“None of those guys, not a single one of them, had a background in special operations, with the exception of General Webb who was sitting there running a laptop,” Pfarrer went on. “No one knew or could even imagine what was going on inside the building. They didn’t know.”

“There was an alternative feed going to CIA headquarters where Leon Panetta sat there with the communications brevity codes [a guide sheet for the mission's radio lingo] in his lap and a SEAL off-screen by his side to be able to tell him what was going on,” he said. “But these guys, none of them, really knew what they were looking at.”

As the media raised more questions, officials gave more answers.

Whether or not bin Laden resisted ultimately developed into a barrage of murky official and unofficial explanations in the days following. And statements from as high as then-CIA Director Leon Panetta offered confirmation that the endeavor was a “kill mission.”

Pfarrer dismisses that assertion.

“An order to go in and murder someone in their house is not a lawful order,” explained Pfarrer, who maintains that bin Laden would have been captured had he surrendered. “Unlike the Germans in World War II, if you’re a petty officer, a chief petty officer, a naval officer, and you’re giving an order to murder somebody, that’s an unlawful order.”

Pfarrer also suggests some of the emerging claims were simply self-aggrandizing “fairy tales.”

“The story they tried to tell — it’s preposterous. And the CIA tried to jump in. About mid-June the CIA tried to jump into the car and drive the victory lap. There’s this whole stuff about the CIA guy joining the operation, the gallant interpreter — he couldn’t even fast rope!” exclaimed Pfarrer, referring to a technique for descending from an airborne helicopter.

“There’s this fairy tale about him walking out of the compound during the operation to tell crowds of Pakistanis to go home and everything’s OK.”

Pfarrer tried to put this in perspective: “Do you mean that during the middle of this military operation at night, with hovering helicopters over this odd house in this neighborhood, that people came out of their houses to ask what’s going on, instead of [remaining] huddled in their basement?”

“And I think that there were so many of these leaks that were incorrect, the administration couldn’t walk them all back,” Pfarrer explained. “And so, in the middle of May, they froze everything.”

It was that freeze-out that left Chuck Pfarrer with nowhere to turn for the real story but the SEALs themselves.

Seal Target Geronimo delivers an account of the night Osama bin Laden died with a level of detail unlike anything previously reported. Pfarrer bills the story as “absolutely factual.”

“That’s the other thing. I’m prepared for the White House to say, you know, ‘this is full of inaccuracies,’ et cetera,” offered Pfarrer. He told TheDC that in order to protect American interests, his book is “full of names that are made up, and it is full of bases that are not quite where they really should be.”

“But the timeline of my events,” he cautions, “and the manner in which it happened is 100 percent accurate. And they’ll know that.”


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#1. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

I, for one, don't believe a word of this.

Southern Style  posted on  2011-11-07   21:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Southern Style (#1)

I, for one, don't believe a word of this.

I do!

It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?

angK  posted on  2011-11-07   21:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

This is so bogus I can't believe I read it all.

My bad.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-11-07   22:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Southern Style (#1)

Neither do I, seeing as how I always heard former seals were forbidden to discuss details of any ops, especially one as recent as this.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2011-11-07   22:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

“He dived across the king-size bed to get at the AKSU rifle he kept by the headboard,” wrote Pfarrer in his book. It was at that moment, a mere 90 seconds after the SEALs first set foot on the roof, that two American bullets shattered bin Laden’s chest and head, killing a man who sought violence to the very end.

suuuuuuure....

christine  posted on  2011-11-07   23:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

(1) I don't believe that a command to assassinate the enemy general is an unlawful order. Considering that Bin Laden deliberately attacked a civilian target (the WTC), I also don't believe that he was entitled to the protections of the Geneva Convention, not that it matters much.

(2) I also don't believe that the Administration seriously claimed that it wanted to take Bin Laden alive. He almost certainly would not have been helpful as a captive. The New Yorker account of the raid emphasized that, from the first, the instructions were to kill Bin Laden on the spot.

(3) The identities of the SEALs that participated in the raid are still kept secret. Even though Pfarrer may be an ex-SEAL, I don't think that he had access to those SEALs or even that current SEALs would reveal secret information to him. I would not be surprised if his book were a synthesis of scuttlebutt and surmise by himself and perhaps some other SEALs not present in the raid.

(4) I really don't care how it was done. I am glad that Bin Laden is dead!

Shoonra  posted on  2011-11-08   1:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Shoonra, Eric Stratton, christine, all (#6)

5. Osama Bin Laden died on or around the Pakastani border from Renal failure in December of 2001.

6. This is another stale D.O.A. PsyOps Fairy Tale since the first one went over like a lead baloon.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-11-08   3:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#7)

7. Local eyewitnesses have been interviewed and said that the helicopter never left the compound. So, how could a body blown up in a helicopter crash be buried at sea?

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-11-08   4:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#5)

“He dived across the king-size bed to get at the AKSU rifle he kept by the headboard,” wrote Pfarrer in his book. It was at that moment, a mere 90 seconds after the SEALs first set foot on the roof, that two American bullets shattered bin Laden’s chest and head, killing a man who sought violence to the very end.

suuuuuuure....

I saw the same thing,

Like anyone would wait 1.5 minutes to grab a rifle when it's really hitting the fan outside.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-11-08   7:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#3)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-08   7:47:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-08   7:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-08   8:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Shoonra, All (#6) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-08   8:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PSUSA2 (#9)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-08   8:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

This story is sheer horseshit and the kind of misdirection which our propaganda machine excels at.

To imagine that bin Ladin could find a nice quiet hideout in Abottabad, in the very midst of Pakistan's military and intelligence enclave, and live there unobtrusively, all Arab six-foot-five of him and with a price on his head is just ludicrous.

If bin Ladin had been in any of the urbanized areas of Pakistan, the Pakis would have got wind of him, would have nabbed him and squeezed him dry and sold him to the Gringos. I agree with most of the posters on this thread. This overblown Salifist agitator died years ago.

This SEAL blabber smells like a disinformation piece to put about the idea that bin Ladin grabbed and AK and had to be put down and was probably also put together to throw cold water on the reports of eyewitnesses that make garbage out of the Washington fairy tale.

Inside dope from one of our decorated heroes. Gimme a break. We've heard this kind of crapola before. The rubes lap it up like butcher hogs. They will eat anything.

randge  posted on  2011-11-08   8:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge (#15)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-08   8:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#14) (Edited)

This guy is spreading bullshit on top of bullshit.

Who were his sources? IIRC, most if not all of those on that mission are now conveniently dead thanks to a convenient RPG shot. So at best his sources are 2nd hand.

And the head shot? That would preclude a positive photo ID. A .223 bullet is small but it packs a hell of a punch. So that unnecessary head shot was convenient too.

So much convenience here. Everything is so convenient.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-11-08   8:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton (#16)

It never ceases to amaze me what people believe.

P.T. Barnum in his day is reputed to have said that there's a sucker born every minute.

As our birthrate today is about eight times that, it seems we've ramped up production to an industrial scale.

randge  posted on  2011-11-08   8:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Shoonra (#6)

by the power of numbskull! you are she-ra!


the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET

IRTorqued  posted on  2011-11-08   8:53:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: randge (#18)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-08   9:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: IRTorqued (#19)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-08   9:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: IRTorqued (#19)

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. That's where he does his best wanking.

randge  posted on  2011-11-08   9:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Eric Stratton (#11)

I'm tellin' ya, if I weren't feeling every bit my age this a.m., I'd go find the nearest cinder block wall to bang my head against a few hundred times.

laughing...

christine  posted on  2011-11-08   10:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Shoonra (#6)

Considering that Bin Laden deliberately attacked a civilian target (the WTC),

seriously? you buy that ludicrous story, huh? shaking my head...

christine  posted on  2011-11-08   10:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine, All (#24)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-08   11:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#24)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-08   11:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Eric Stratton, christine, she-ra (#26)

she-ra believes everything the government says no matter which side of the coin is in power. gullible as the day is long (summer time north of the arctic circle).


the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET

IRTorqued  posted on  2011-11-08   21:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: randge (#22) (Edited)

I just can't resist slapping the eweconic moron every now and again. the only difference between she-ra and long nose gar is that long nose gar would attempt to defend its idiotic position.


the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET

IRTorqued  posted on  2011-11-08   22:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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