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Title: No Honor Justified On Veterans Day
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Published: Nov 10, 2011
Author: Christine Smith
Post Date: 2011-11-10 23:36:33 by christine
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#1. To: christine (#0)

To Whom it May Concern: Please consider lowering your flags to half-mast on Veterans Day and leave them at half-mast until the wars are ended. Raise them only when political hawks exit this world so that they get no such special recognition for them.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-11-11   3:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

I don't agree with her about the South defending their freedom. The Civil War was also started by the Rothchilds and the South was suppose to win to divide the nation just like the Rothchilds wanted to happen. Their goal was to divide the nation because Andrew Jackson ended their central bank in America. They knew a united America without them owning the central bank could become very powerful and become a legitimate threat to their goals of ruling the world.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-11-11   4:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GreyLmist (#1)

Please consider lowering your flags to half-mast on Veterans Day

They should be flown upside down to indicate "the country is in distress" !

"the man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, “Limit yourself”; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." Murray Rothbard

noone222  posted on  2011-11-11   4:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#3)

They should be flown upside down to indicate "the country is in distress" !

You're right. Upside down at half-mast. That'll work.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-11-11   5:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine, RickyJ, noone222, GreyLmist (#0) (Edited)

"No Honor Justified On Veterans Day"?

Why, little lady, how would you like a visit from a steroid popping, special ops "mechanic" who can turn your head around so you can watch where your cute little butt has been? These problem solvers were originally designed and built to kill red Guatemalans and Vietnamese commies but they'd be more than happy to rape and kill an American housewife who worships some non existent principle of "free speech". (that goddam internet again. Somebody needs to be killed although we don't know who just yet)

And, RickyJ, in 1939 (74 years after the "official cessation of hostilities" Gone With the Wind was released in theaters nationwide. Clark Gable warned that "There isn't one cannon factory in the whole South"., while explaining why the Confederacy had little chance of prevailing over the industrialized "Nawth". (if you'll pardon the goddam expression, Colonel)

I'd like nothing better than to believe that The Rothschilds were the puppeteers who manipulated the South into secession. ("Secessionists must be swept away like the Jewes of Old"_Col. James M. Montgomery, Union colonel and "staunch abolitionist who used extreme measures against pro-slavery populations."_wiki as quoted from the film GLORY)

But, where is the proof of this unseen hand? It seems plausible but I'd like some evidence if you have it.

And, noone222 and GreyLmist, flying the Nawthern victory flag inverted and at half staff would be a good way of signaling your county sheriff (and his SWAT team looking for some real world trigger time) that you're building bombs in your workshops. And, if you have ammo reloading components and a threaded pipe nipple and caps for both ends in your plumbing repair supplies you'll be guilty of "possession of illegal bomb making components".

So, you may want to inventory your homes before signaling that you're in need of remedial thought cleansing. (or perhaps transorbital lobotomies with no official record of the procedures as was the case with the very public anti govt Frances Farmer, who failed to respond to "lovingly administered therapeutic experimental drugs and being forced to eat her own feces")

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-11-11   7:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: HOUNDDAWG (#5)

You're damned right, HD - and pretty funny too !

I put Glory on our netflix queue and moved it to the top !

"the man who puts all the guns and all the decision-making power into the hands of the central government and then says, “Limit yourself”; it is he who is truly the impractical utopian." Murray Rothbard

noone222  posted on  2011-11-11   7:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GreyLmist (#1)

excellent!

christine  posted on  2011-11-11   10:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: RickyJ (#2)

i thought the South's primary motivation was secession?

christine  posted on  2011-11-11   10:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HOUNDDAWG (#5)

well put with the usual witty flair. you made me want to see the movie Frances again.

christine  posted on  2011-11-11   10:43:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: HOUNDDAWG (#5)

I'd like nothing better than to believe that The Rothschilds were the puppeteers who manipulated the South into secession. ("Secessionists must be swept away like the Jewes of Old"_Col. James M. Montgomery, Union colonel and "staunch abolitionist who used extreme measures against pro-slavery populations."_wiki as quoted from the film GLORY)

But, where is the proof of this unseen hand? It seems plausible but I'd like some evidence if you have it.

ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND THE ROTHSCHILDS

Civil War Was Not Fought Over Slavery, But Financial Freedom 7232

Textbooks that have been carefully edited continue to teach American school children that the American Civil War was fought over the Slavery issue; that is, that the South did not wish to free the negro slaves. But it we look behind the scenes we will find that the "slave question" was but the surface issue. Below the surface ran a current of intrigue that ended with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln because he was determined that the United States be free from the bondage of the inter-national bankers.

The Missouri Compromise was written in 1820. Thirty years later, a subsequent compromise of 1850 was effected. For thirty years America had worked out her problems the problem of slavery and later the problem of State Rights satisfactorily. Even as late as the Kansas Nebraska Act, the give and take of compromise was effective. Yet in the year of 1857 the war was decided upon, not in the prospering South, not in the prospering North, but in London, England!

Division of U.S. Plotted in London

In the year 1857, the money power of old Europe cantered in the House of Rothschild. Disraeli represented them in England; Napoleon III in France; Bismarck in Germany and Mazzini in Italy. According to Mr. John Reeves, who wrote on page 228, of an authorized biography entitled: "The Rothschilds, The Financial Rulers of Nations," based on research in their own archives, there was a famous meeting in the City of London in 1857. The great Rothschild family was assembled from the countries of Europe for the marriage of Lionel Rothschild's daughter, Leo to her cousin, Alphonse, son of James Rothschild of Paris.

Disraeli is reported to have said:

"Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild a name familiar in every capital of Europe and every division of the globe. If you like. we shall divide the United States into two parts, one for you, James, and one for you, Lionel. Napoleon will do exactly and all that 1 shall advise him."

Thus, in London, we see a plan fostered by the money power of Europe, moving in on America, and pitting the North against the South under the old principle of "divide and conquer." The North was to become a British colony annexed to Canada, while the South would go to Napoleon Ill of France!

Judah Benjamin, Rothschild Agent

"Napoleon's object was to assure the predomination of the French over the Latin races and to augment the influence of these races in America. Napoleon decided to recognize the independence of the rebellious American States and repeatedly urged the British government to join him in so doing," according to Mackenzie in his historical research entitled "The Nineteenth Century."

Judah P. Benjamin was chosen by the Rothschilds to do their work in the United States and he was the first adviser to Jefferson Davis, the President of the Southern Confederacy. Benjamin has been called “the brains of the revolt.” He was also Secretary of State of the Confederacy under Jeff Davis.

The Confederacy consisted of eleven Southern States bound by a written Constitution, modelled in part after our own Constitution. It was founded on the fundamental principle that each one of its eleven constituted States had the right to secede from the Union, or to separate from the other 23 out of the 34 states of the Union.

Nevertheless, at the instigation of Benjamin and under pressure of Napoleon, Texas and Louisiana were placed on the bargain counter in exchange, presumably, for Napoleon's aid. The latter was supported by Disraeli of England, who had assured the Confederacy of the support of Britain behind the nine remaining States, after Texas and Louisiana were to be ceded to France.

Intervention of Czar Saved United States

English, French and Spanish troops had landed at Vera Cruz in 1862. Since June 5, 1863, the French General, Bazaine, had occupied the capital of Mexico. The danger was great. The genius of President Lincoln was taxed. He knew the North, alone, could not have withstood such a combination. Moreover, Archduke Maximilian had been induced to accept the throne of Mexico. But fate stepped in.

The Christian Czar of Russia, Alexander II, through his ambassadors at Paris and London, knew of the plan, knew of England's recognition of the Confederacy, knew the Rothschild plot behind the whole manoeuvre.

The Czar dispatched a fleet to San Francisco under the command of Admiral S. Lesowsky, on September 8, 1863, and a squadron to New York under Admiral A. A. Popoff. Both Admirals had orders from the Czar "to be ready to fight any power and to take their orders only from Abraham Lincoln."

Needless to say, this generous and vigorous action saved the United States from foreign intrigue. James Rothschild was left without Mexico and the Southern States, and Lionel could not capture the North through military measures. But the European Machevillis were determined on financial conquest, if not actual slavery.

Booth's Code Found in Benjamin Trunk

The good Czar, after several unsuccessful at tempts on his life, was murdered in 1881. Lincoln was murdered in 1865, on April 4th, by an actor, John Wilkes Booth, in whose trunk was found coded messages the key to which was found in Judah F. Benjamin's possession. Benjamin escaped to England where he later died.

The good Czar, Alexander II, had been responsible on September 19, 1861, by imperial decree, emancipating the Russian serfs, in number over 47 million. Serfdom was ended by the stroke of a pen.

But in the United States, it took billions of dollars and oceans of blood to free three millions, not serfs, but slaves because of an infamous plot of English and European money lords.

Bismarck knew the truth and revealed it in 1876 to a German, Conrad Siem, who published it in "La Vieille France,” (No. 216, March, 1921), forty-five years later.

Bismarck wrote:

Bismarck Told Story in 1876

“The division of the United States into two federations of equal force was decided long before the Civil War by the High Financial Power of Europe. These bankers were afraid the United, if they remained in one block and as one nation, would attain Economical and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over the world. The voice of the Rothchilds predominated. They foresaw tremendous booty if they could substitute two feeble democracies, indebted to the Jewish financiers, to the vigorous Republic, confident and self providing. Therefore, they started their emissaries in order to exploit the question of slavery and thus to dig an abyss between the two parts of the Republic.

"Lincoln never suspected these underground machinations. He was anti-Slaverist, and he was elected as such. But his character prevented him from being the man of one party. When he had affairs in his hands, he perceived that these sinister financiers of Europe, the Rothschilds, wished to make him the executor of their designs. They made the rupture between the North and the South imminent! The master of finance in Europe made this rupture definitive in order to exploit it to the utmost. Lincoln's personality surprised them. His candidature did not trouble them; they thought to easily dupe the candidate woodcutter. But Lincoln read their plots and soon understood. that the South was not the worst foe, but the Jew financiers. He did not confide his apprehensions, he watched the gestures of the Hidden Hand; he did not wish to expose publicly the questions which would disconcert the ignorant masses..

"Lincoln decided to eliminate the international banker by establish­ing a system of loans, allowing the States to borrow directly from the people without intermediary. He did not study financial questions, but his robust good sense revealed to him, that the source of any wealth resides in the work and economy of the nation. He opposed emissions through the international financiers. He obtained from Congress the right to borrow from the people by selling to it the 'bonds' of the States. The local banks were only too glad to help such a system. And the Government and the nation escaped the plots of the foreign financiers. They understood at once, that the United States would escape their grip. The death of Lincoln was resolved upon. Nothing is easier than to find a fanatic to strike.

"The death of. Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom," continues Bismarck. "There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots. And Israel went anew to grab the riches of the world. 1 fear that Jewish banks with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America, and use it to systematically corrupt modern civilization. The Jews will not hesitate to plunge the whole of Christendom into wars and chaos, in order that 'the earth should become the inheritance of the Jews

Facts Hidden in American Files

Thus does unwritten history come to light with the years. Again, we repeat that the above quotation from Bismarck was released to the public in 1921, some forty-five years after it was written. Bear in mind also that the official archives of the United States Government, bearing on the Civil War, will not be available until 1965, or 100 years after the event. We have therefore to be obliged to go to European sources to obtain the facts.

http://saxonmessenger.christogenea.org/book/export/html/844

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-11-11   12:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: HOUNDDAWG (#5)

But HD, if I flew the Confederate flag upside down at half staff, it wouldn't look like a distress signal. It would still look right side up. ;)

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-11-11   22:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#7)

:)

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-11-11   22:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, christine, noone222, GreyLmist (#10)

ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND THE ROTHSCHILDS

The scenario you posted is plausible. And, I'm absolutely convinced that the Rothschilds were tampering with our internal machinations for their benefit.

AND, I also know damned well that ol' Abe didn't give sour owl shit about slavery.

BUT, just as it's indisputable that the author had an agenda to expose and vilify the Rothschilds, the author seemed to also want to lionize Lincoln. And some of the things written may not reconcile with the research by Thomas DiLorenzo, whose findings lead me to conclude that ol' Abe was a scumbag lawyer who engineered the scenario at Fort Sumpter to keep the South from peacefully seceding, which regardless of who was pulling strings was still the right of the states that chose to leave the Union.

Thank you for your comprehensive and informative post. I will save it and add it to my reference material. Perhaps all available information can be compiled and any conflicting facts reconciled.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-11-12   2:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine (#9)

;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-11-12   2:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222 (#6)

Thank you.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-11-12   3:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GreyLmist (#11)

But HD, if I flew the Confederate flag upside down at half staff, it wouldn't look like a distress signal. It would still look right side up. ;)

Right.

Of course this isn't true for the Bonnie Blue Flag.

In the 1936 novel by Margaret Mitchell and the 1939 film Gone with the Wind, Rhett Butler decides to call his newborn daughter "Bonnie Blue Butler" when Melanie Wilkes remarks that her eyes are "as blue as the Bonnie Blue Flag."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-11-12   3:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16)

I'm not so sure, HD, that it too wouldn't still look rightside up if flown upside down as a distress signal but it's a fine flag and I'll give it some thought. :) Am also giving some thought to flying the American Civil Flag of Peace in distress mode, maybe:

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-11-12   5:20:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GreyLmist, James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull, christine, Ferret, Shoonra, all those who are filled with righteous indignation, you know hoo yoo bee (#17) (Edited)

The Bonnie Blue Flag is a single white star on a blue field. It has five points and only one pointing straight up, right?

Quote: "Am also giving some thought to flying the American Civil Flag of Peace in distress mode..."

Well, I live in DE and they don't allow that kind of misbehavior around these parts. As I mentioned before, the 60's completely passed the state by because the Delaware State Police (DESTAPO) didn't permit radical long hairs to smoke pot or attend peace rallies or listen to The Moody Dead or...well, you get the idea. In fact if any subject of DUPONT-THE DELAWARE STATE!® attended Woodstock in '69 and the cops found out about it they would jerk all Delaware privileges, including the privilege of working for the mighty Dupont Company, Hercules, or any of the thousands of worldwide companies (e.g. TIME WARNER) incorporated in the state.

Anyone found to be in violation of this policy would be flown back to DE on The DESTAPO's jet (the state has its own version of the US MARSHALS' CON AIR) and flogged on Red Hannah before being executed for the crime of poor subjectism.

A well trained and therefore responsible subject would wear short hair and work for a chemical giant or auto assembly plant his entire adult life until he died of cancer or retired, whichever came first. And if the company-controlled local courts found that the cancer was not occupation related then a "good Delawarean" wouldn't dream of going off and whining to some higher court.

Although DE was a Union state we had soldiers that fought for both sides of the War Of Nawthern Aggression. And, DE was the last state to abolish slavery after the war and upon passage of the 13th amendment which our delegation voted against because it could not be reconciled with "states' rights." (Was this in your school's history books? Of course not. There was room for DE's contribution to The Underground Railroad, I'll wager.)

One of the last monuments placed at Gettysburg (a moratorium is now in effect) is from DE honoring the men who fought on both sides. I was at the dedication ceremony which featured Ken Burns who is originally from DE. (As is Robert Crumb but he wasn't invited to speak-Unlike Burns' tender treatment of darkies in his TV series THE CIVIL WAR switchblade toting ghetto blacks are depicted as crows and pickle belching Jews as pigs in the films that Crumb's comic strip inspired such as FRITZ THE CAT, the first animated film in US history to receive an X rating. I wonder why?)

Needless to say there were no blacks there. (Someday there will be a law against that many whites meeting without supervision from the People's Non Violent Committee For Racial Equality) In fact they are seldom seen at the park, mainly because no blacks died in the battle and there are no memorials or weepy tourist films about the "evils of slavery". And, blacks have better things to do than honor the 53,000 men who died there to "free the slaves" (so we are told) just as they undoubtedly had more pressing business elsewhere which prevented them from dying along side the whites who supposedly fought to free them so they could marry the soldiers' pretty white daughters. ("I don't care about you bitch, jus' bring me my hairo-ron!")

Most of the combatants had never owned slaves, but the rebels were simply trying to prevent Lincoln's legacy of bayonet democracy from becoming reality, which as we all know it certainly has. In fact, in the film GETTYSBURG Jeff Daniels played Colonel Joshua Chamberlain who bravely led a desperate bayonet charge down Little Round Top, forcing the uphill fighting Confederates to surrender. Daniels/Chamberlain asked a Rebel prisoner who owned no slaves why he was fighting and the Reb replied, "..For maa rats." Daniels/Chamberlain couldn't understand the deep Southern accent and the prisoner had to repeat his answer. None of the 20th Maine in the film had those funny New England accents, though. Typical jooshit.

In the interest of balance I flagged Ferret to invite him to offer a rebuttal with the understanding that I won't say nuthin' bad about his mama. (Even though his mama so short you can see her feet on her drivers license!)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-11-12   12:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: HOUNDDAWG (#18)

In the interest of balance I flagged Ferret to invite him to offer a rebuttal with the understanding that I won't say nuthin' bad about his mama. (Even though his mama so short you can see her feet on her drivers license!)

LOL! That's a good one.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-11-12   13:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: HOUNDDAWG (#18) (Edited)

The Bonnie Blue Flag is a single white star on a blue field. It has five points and only one pointing straight up, right?

Yes, of course. Got it now. Thanks for pointing that out.

Quote: "Am also giving some thought to flying the American Civil Flag of Peace in distress mode..."

Well, I live in DE and they don't allow that kind of misbehavior around these parts. As I mentioned before, the 60's completely passed the state by

Well then, am turning the clock back to 1957 for yas:

Jimmy Page plays skiffle REAL KOOL..14 Years old..1957 -- also includes "The Cotton Song"

Edited for formatting.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-11-13   17:58:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GreyLmist (#20)

Funny! The bass player and his flat top home made upright lost it on the last tune! He definitely needs to make (or better yet buy) an arch top string bass.

And after Master James Page signed his contract with the Prince of the underworld he went on to play in "the greatest rock & roll band in the world"!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2011-11-13   22:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21)

String Theory Summarized

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-11-14   20:55:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine (#0)

History of Veterans Day - Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2011-11-14   21:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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