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Title: I wonder how the "Lefties" will like it when they find out that we on the TRUE Right are enjoying Fitzmas week as much as they are
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Published: Oct 27, 2005
Author: Coral Snake
Post Date: 2005-10-27 20:22:28 by Coral Snake
Keywords: "Lefties", enjoying, Fitzmas
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Comments: 37
I looked at much of the Fitzmas material coming out and found it to mainly come from the Left side of our artificial political spectrum. In fact I read that the term even came from DemocraticUnderground. I wonder how these lefties are going to like it when they find out that certain people on the RIGHT (Constitutionalists, Paleo-Cons and Libertarians) are enjoying Fitzmas week as much as they are. (I'm bringing this up because it is doctrine amongst 'bot types on the Left that every one on the Right must love Shrub and his imperial administration and this is simply not so.)
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#1. To: Coral Snake (#0)
Your comment reminded me of this bumper sticker:
Who knows?? The ones that post at DU.. the left's answer to FR.. are as caught up in the left/right false dichotomy as are the diehard bots..
But only if they are gay men ;)
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
Actually I really think Fitzmas works better for US than it does for them. Heres how: 1. Fitzmas causes the sheep to elect Hillary and a Dem Congress. 2. Hillary and Dem Congress pass gun ban and attemtp door ro door confiscation. 3. Door to door gun confiscation starts Civil War II which the leftist side of the Banker/Treason Elite CAN'T win. 4. The MILITIA OF THE SCCOND AMENDMENT frog-marches the "leftist" side of the Banker/Treason elite (Hillary, Bill, Diane Feinstein, Barbera Boxer, Chuckie Schumer, Teddy the Swimmer et al PLUS the actual Banker/Traitor Elitists behind the scenes) off to the slammer and it's MERY FITZMAS II and we have our freedom and country back. ;c)
On the other hand, the way I look at it, your candidate did not win at the polls and you are now sore; and throwing a tantrum and impeding the functioning of a legitimately elected government, and quite likely, giving aid and comfort to our enemies at the same time ...
**REAL** Conservatives don't hate ...
There are many kinds of hatred, as many kinds of fire;
And some are fierce and fatal with murderous desire;
And some are mean and craven, revengeful, sullen, slow,
They hurt the man that holds them more than they hurt his foe.
And yet there is a hatred that purifies the heart:
The anger of the better against the baser part,
Against the false and wicked, against the tyrant's sword,
Against the enemies of love, and all that hate the Lord.
O cleansing indignation, O flame of righteous wrath,
Give me a soul to feel thee and follow in thy path!
Save me from selfish virtue, arm me for fearless fight,
And give me strength to carry on, a soldier of the Right!
Henry Van Dyke (1852-1933)
Please define *real* conservative? Is it a free spending, war mongering, pretzel choking religious whackjob?
LOL!! He's hardly a traditional conservative.. his kind of conservatives are hate mongering neocons..
In his mind, you become a "real conservative" when you pound down enough koolaid/Vodka/Paint Thinner to blot out the damage Dubya is causing to the military, economy, and political infastructure of the US and you continue to pull the "R" lever. You get bonus points if you chow down a few oxy pills and then praise the Katrina response.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.
And as it has been shown before, a good number of them are closeted rump-rangers.
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
You forgot about taking a swipe at Wilson for drug use when he was younger.
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
This IS true.. its all that sexual frustration.. KILL THE MUSLIMS!! :P
Righteous Wrath Oh, I see; you've rationalized it that way ...
Well it looks like you may be partially right and partially WRONG about the Fitzmas thing. It appears that Rove has wormed out but SCOOTER has not from the last I heard about it.
We real liberals know that real conservatives like Fitzmas and DeLay extermination as much as we do. I doubt you heard a single word from DU or any other lefty source defending Traficant. A lot of us on both sides want to get back to arguing marginal tax rates and stuff, not discussing world domination. The crazies have taken over your party, calling themselves conservatives, when they make Clinton look like a crazed right winger. I'm a social liberal and a fiscal moderate and a deficit hawk. I don't think you can impose democracy on others. I distrust almost all foreign wars (WWII and Afghanistan were exceptions, with Kosovo questionable but run well enough I could support it to end ethnic slaughter) and want Bush's national credit card taken away. OTOH, I don't object to paying taxes, want a very strong safety net for those who can't compete in our increasingly bizarre economy, and think we have to find some sane immigration policy that allows these desperate people to enter the country and earn enough money to go home and start their own business. At risk of boring everyone to tears, I did a story one time about a chain called Fiesta Mart, a Texas grocery chain aimed at Latinos. So I arrived to interview the CEO, and was pretty shocked to find a middle-aged white guy, named Nixon no less, and a former CIA station chief in South America. His main success had been to turn the Andes into a limited capitalist economy, so that staples like rice and fruit could reach the isolated communities, and in turn, market their products, which were mainly potatoes and crafts. The result was an immediate improvement in nutrition, birth rate, and today those potatoes are prized gourmet products and earn farmers who were starving a decent living. Among people that have the best interests of the world at heart, there can be many disagreements. My opinion of CIA involvement in South America had been pretty much completely negative, but this was a decent guy who did good things. He turned the company into an ESOP and today he is long retired, but the employees own the company he started and share in the profits. That's a pretty good example of sound economic policy and compassion working together. We're getting neither from these fruitcakes.
His first kneejerk reaction was to call snake a Democrat. Remember that the phrase "You're a Democrat (or a lib)" in bot talk translates to: "Excuse me, but you said something bad about Bush that is true and that I cannot refute, so I must therefore toss out a silly and over the top accusation to start an argument and take the focus off of your dangerous - but true - fact."
But look at the bright side. After 6 years of neoconservative compassion, this nation is fractured and engaged in a global, religious war. His cabinet is on fire with possible indictments and he appears to be back on the bottle. His legacy will be endless deficits, perpetual war and a divided nation. Will America elect another neocon? Look at what just happened to Harriet Miers. She never left the starting gate. Bush is over.
I hope these criminals go down, but I have my doubts about it actually occurring.
2. Hillary and Dem Congress pass gun ban and attemtp door ro door confiscation. 3. Door to door gun confiscation starts Civil War II which the leftist side of the Banker/Treason Elite CAN'T win. 4. The MILITIA OF THE SCCOND AMENDMENT frog-marches the "leftist" side of the Banker/Treason elite (Hillary, Bill, Diane Feinstein, Barbera Boxer, Chuckie Schumer, Teddy the Swimmer et al PLUS the actual Banker/Traitor Elitists behind the scenes) off to the slammer and it's MERY FITZMAS II and we have our freedom and country back. ;c) Um, where do you guys come up with this crap. No one want to confiscate guns. If we do that, we are at the mercy of the next bunch of nazis to come along. As a gun control proponent, my only wish is to put a stop to illegal gun sales. Mainly, I object to the gun show exception. That is where terrorists, criminals and the mentally ill can get guns with no background check at all. The people you named have never called for a gun ban, or confiscation or anything of the sort. Your paranoia aside, most of the left want an armed nation. Just not one that allows crack dealers to buy untraceable streetsweepers.
Latest news is there will definitely be a "one present" Fitzmas (Scooter) tommorrow but Rove has not covered his ass yet. He is on "back order". (Fitzmas talk for the grand jury being extended.)
4 years and 10 months...but it feels like forever.
From what I have heard, which is admittedly just rumor, Fitzgerald is going to indict at least one, then convene another grand jury to address the conspiracy to lie us into war. I hope this is true.
That 2001 Onion headline seems more true than ever. Bush: Our nation's long nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over.
Remember that the phrase "You're a Democrat (or a lib)" in bot talk translates to: "Excuse me, but you said something bad about Bush that is true and that I cannot refute, so I must therefore toss out a silly and over the top accusation to start an argument and take the focus off of your dangerous - but true - fact." Oh I know.. its assinine.. a non sequitur
his FR homepage is almost a shrine to rush. lmao.
I saw a photo op of him today. He was slinging hash in some tent in Florida. What a sad, pathetic oaf. Bush, the leader of the free world? He's not worthy of a manager position at the local McDonalds.
Actually it seems that the firearms LEAST used in crime are those that are not under ANY gun control laws at all except in highly strict law areas like New York, Massachusses Haiwii, Chicago, and Washington DC. These being "black powder" replicas like those revolutionary and Civil War re-inactors use because of the age and value of the originals and pre 1899 antiques. (Even though my home state of California is also a very strict law state even it exempts firearms INCLUDING HANDGUNS labeled "antiques" under the Gun Control Act of 1968 including black powder chamber and muzzle loaders from it's gun control laws. I don't think I ever heard of a MODERN crime with an 1851 Navy Colt or a replica thereof or a Smith & Wesson 1880 double action revolver which was a very advanced firearm for its time.
Ever been to a gun show? Trust me...Akmhed ain't gonna blend in or find many people willing to do business with him at your garden variety gun show. As far as the mentally ill are concerned, government at all levels have proven that they can't catalog and/or track those people with any degree of competence. ...paranoia aside, most of the left want an armed nation. Just not one that allows crack dealers to buy untraceable streetsweepers. People like us don't like the idea of guns being too "traceable" because that means registration. And while not every registration implemented by other countries has led to confiscation, almost every confiscation came after registration was in place. It may seem harmless to you, but we don't trust it...we're funny that way. I think you would be surprised how many votes some dems could siphon off if they would just lay off of the gun issue entirely.
"If you're not cynical, then you're not paying attention."
You sound like a good candidate for one of one of the few so called "leftist" things that I like. Linux and FOSS (Free and Open Source Software). Have you ever tried Linux? It is one of the best alternatives to the Corporatist/Banker monopoly over our computers Windows represents I've found.
"...legitimately elected government..." I doubt it. The fact you even had to use that adjective makes me doubt it even more. The best America has to offer? No, just the best puppets the elite can control. God is always good! Or we could look at it as you do...with your head up your ass.
This troll is not worthy of any attention. Anyone who worships this murderous and treasonous congress and administration, is not a true American. His knee pads must be worn out from going down on all these criminals. Mark
uh huh.
The crime to name a covert CIA official pales in comparison with conspiring to lead the nation to war under false pretenses.
Amen, Mekons4. I'm probably a lot more conservative than you are, but you don't sound doctrinaire and like an idealogue - and I certainly am not one either. I think folks like us can disagree, but we can find plenty of common ground to meet on. However, the neocons are crazy idealogues and extremists and the sooner they go, the better. They don't have either the best interests of this country,or the world, in mind.
I was just at a wedding where my niece is marrying a kid in the Air Force who just did two years in Iraq. I was the well-known peace freak, and his friends, all in the forces, came up to me and said, I heard about you. I said, oh? They said, put her there, pal, you were right. We all did time there, and it is a hellhole. We were told all you guys were just bitter Democrats, but we have been there, and this war is not winnable. My new nephew-in-law hurt his back over there, and they offered him some transfer, and he took it. The fine print said, he has to do two extra years, so he is now stuck in Alaska for four years. If he's lucky. His buddies, all Air Force and Army, are incredibly pissed at how they are being treated. Anyway, I am pretty conservative as far as not giving the government a credit card. The instant you give a bureaucrat a blank check, they will spend it. That is a given. If they have to buy enough copy paper to last til 3018, they will SPEND that money. We're wasting money hand over fist everywhere in the government. I remember Newtie saying, let's buy every poor kid a laptop. Um, where do they plug it in? Who shows them how to use it? Where do they get internet service? How many get shot to take the computer and sell it? I want my tax money spent on things that improve our society. If poor kids get a better chance at success, they are less likely to deal crack or steal a car. But handing a 10 year old with a crackhead mother a laptop means that laptop will end up, at best, in the pawnshop. What I do know is that under Clinton and the saner Republicans, our national debt clock turned backwards for the first time in 1997 or so. Now it is racing full-speed ahead. What the hell is going on in this country? I thought the GOP was there to keep the nutty liberals from spending $22 billion on saving the deer or some crap like that. These assholes are amping up the spending while handing tax cuts to anyone who asks. They're going to eliminate the middle class, which is where ALL growth, enterpreneurship, and decency comes from. We have pathological rich and poor, and pretty soon we will belong to one or the other. For most of us, it is the latter. I actually saw some idiot on CNN say that if we don't stop suicide bombers overseas, they will be here next week. Um, how does that figure? They went through my daughter's bag like hounds on our trip to CT this weekend. They put it through a bomb sensor. Now, some freak MIGHT get through, but there might be a volcano under my house at this moment ready to blow. We live in an uncertain world, and always have. For the Bushies to turn everything into "we're going to protect you" is such brazen bullshit...I can think of five ways right now to launch a terrorist attack if I wanted to that they have never thought of. Terrorism is just another thing we have to worry about, like drunk drivers, that you really can only hope to control, not eliminate. If you wanted to take out some person who really pissed you off, and they knew you were after them, and you were willing to die to get them, do they stand a CHANCE? Terrorism is a tactic, you can't make war on it. You have to figure out who is backing it and cut them off at their knees. We know who is doing this. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are growing them. But the Bushies are in so tight with both of them, they will never do a goddam thing. Anyway, thanks. I think eventually we will create a group who cares about our country and will drive these creeps out, and then get back to the reason we have two parties, to keep each other in check and eventually do what the vast majority of our people want. This pro-life and homo stuff is just masking far worse stuff. I am pro-choice, but personally, I could never support an abortion. But they would call me a baby-killer because I won't make that decision for someone who is in horrible circumstances. I think we can fix this country by just turning the neocons into a separate political party, and watch them get 2 percent of the vote.
The trouble is that the people who really care about the country (Constitutionalists, Libertarians, Independent leftists in the Palph Nader mode) ACTUALLY constitute only two percent of the vote. All of the rest of it is being hogged by NeoCons and "Progressives" (the current name for "Liberals").
#2. To: Coral Snake (#0)
#3. To: christine (#1)
#4. To: Zipporah (#2)
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#5. To: Coral Snake (#0)
(I'm bringing this up because it is doctrine amongst 'bot types on the Left that every one on the Right must love Shrub and his imperial administration and this is simply not so.)
I guess you could look at it this way.
#6. To: christine (#1)
#7. To: _Jim (#6)
Righteous Wrath
#8. To: _Jim (#6)
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
Please define *real* conservative? Is it a free spending, war mongering, pretzel choking religious whackjob?
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
Please define *real* conservative?
#11. To: Zipporah (#9)
He's hardly a traditional conservative.. his kind of conservatives are hate mongering neocons..
#12. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#10)
You get bonus points if you chow down a few oxy pills and then praise the Katrina response.
#13. To: orangedog (#11)
And as it has been shown before, a good number of them are closeted rump-rangers.
#14. To: christine (#7)
#15. To: _Jim (#6)
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#16. To: Coral Snake (#0)
#17. To: Zipporah (#9)
#18. To: Pissed Off Janitor, Zipporah (#10)
#19. To: Coral Snake (#0)
#20. To: Coral Snake (#4)
1. Fitzmas causes the sheep to elect Hillary and a Dem Congress.
#21. To: Mekons4 (#16)
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#22. To: Jethro Tull (#18)
#23. To: Coral Snake (#21)
#24. To: Fred Mertz (#22)
4 years and 10 months...but it feels like forever.
#25. To: crack monkey (#17)
His first kneejerk reaction was to call snake a Democrat.
#26. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#10)
#27. To: Fred Mertz (#22)
#28. To: Mekons4 (#20)
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#29. To: Mekons4 (#20)
Mainly, I object to the gun show exception. That is where terrorists, criminals and the mentally ill can get guns with no background check at all.
#30. To: Mekons4 (#16)
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#31. To: _Jim (#5)
On the other hand, the way I look at it, your candidate did not win at the polls and you are now sore; and throwing a tantrum and impeding the functioning of a legitimately elected government, and quite likely, giving aid and comfort to our enemies at the same time ...
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#32. To: _Jim (#5)
I guess you could look at it this way.
#33. To: christine (#26)
his FR homepage is almost a shrine to rush.
#34. To: Soda Pop, Kamala (#32)
#35. To: Mekons4 (#16)
#36. To: mehitable (#35)
#37. To: Mekons4 (#36)
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