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Title: 19 true things generals can't say in public about the Afghan war
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URL Source: http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/post ... elpful_primer?wpisrc=obnetwork
Published: Nov 25, 2011
Author: Thomas E. Ricks
Post Date: 2011-11-25 08:02:37 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 208
Comments: 8

As a public service, Best Defense is offering this primer for generals on their way to Afghanistan.

Here is a list of 19 things that many insiders and veterans of Afghanistan agree to be true about the war there, but that generals can't say in public. So, general, read this now and believe it later-but keep your lip zipped. Maybe even keep a printout in your wallet and review before interviews.

My list of things to remember I can't say

Pakistan is now an enemy of the United States.

We don't know why we are here, what we are fighting for, or how to know if we are winning.

The strategy is to fight, talk, and build. But we're withdrawing the fighters, the Taliban won't talk, and the builders are corrupt.

Karzai's family is especially corrupt.

We want President Karzai gone but we don't have a Pushtun successor handy.

But the problem isn't corruption, it is which corrupt people are getting the dollars. We have to help corruption be more fair.

Another thing we'll never stop here is the drug traffic, so the counternarcotics mission is probably a waste of time and resources that just alienates a swath of Afghans.

Making this a NATO mission hurt, not helped. Most NATO countries are just going through the motions in Afghanistan as the price necessary to keep the US in Europe

Yes, the exit deadline is killing us.

Even if you got a deal with the Taliban, it wouldn't end the fighting.

The Taliban may be willing to fight forever. We are not.

Yes, we are funding the Taliban, but hey, there's no way to stop it, because the truck companies bringing goods from Pakistan and up the highway across Afghanistan have to pay off the Taliban. So yeah, your tax dollars are helping Mullah Omar and his buddies. Welcome to the neighborhood.

Even non-Taliban Afghans don't much like us.

Afghans didn't get the memo about all our successes, so they are positioning themselves for the post-American civil war .

And they're not the only ones getting ready. The future of Afghanistan is probably evolving up north now as the Indians, Russians and Pakistanis jockey with old Northern Alliance types. Interestingly, we're paying more and getting less than any other player.

Speaking of positioning for the post-American civil war, why would the Pakistanis sell out their best proxy shock troops now?

The ANA and ANP could break the day after we leave the country.

We are ignoring the advisory effort and fighting the "big war" with American troops, just as we did in Vietnam. And the U.S. military won't act any differently until and work with the Afghan forces seriously until when American politicians significantly draw down U.S. forces in country-when it may be too damn late.

The situation American faces in Afghanistan is similar to the one it faced in Vietnam during the Nixon presidency: A desire a leave and turn over the war to our local allies, combined with the realization that our allies may still lose, and the loss will be viewed as a U.S. defeat anyway.

Thanks to several people who contributed to this, from California to Kunar and back to DC, and whose names must not be mentioned! You know who you are. The rest of you, look at the guy sitting to your right.


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We don't know why we are here, what we are fighting for... Aw come on, as a general you can't be so stupid as not to know Israel regarded the Taliban as an enemy because they were allowing Arab fighters to train there in preparation for liberating Palestine from Israeli terrorist thieves. And that in order for US politicians to get elected they needed the support of the Israeli lobby, campaign support that would be assured if the President and Congress undertook to fight Israel's enemies.

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#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Pakistan is now an enemy of the United States.

Actually, Pakistan was an enemy of the US long before this war. As of 8:44 AM, EST, Sept. 11th 2001, the US govt had Pakistan on several blacklists to stop foreign aid and trade because of Pakistan's nuclear saber rattling, its ongoing war with India, its support of terrorism, and some other reasons. Within 48 hours or so, the Bush Administration decided that it absolutely must make nice with Pakistan in order to invade Afghanistan and, suddenly, Pakistan was off all the blacklists and approved to get tons of foreign aid and anything else it wanted.

The effect was that Pakistan was the one country that really benefited from the attack on the WTC. The Pakistan govt also vetoed the participation of either India or Israel in our war against Bin Laden -- both countries had volunteered experienced and highly motivated troops to our cause, but the Pakis forbade their participation. The result was our very heavy dependence on the Pakistani Army, an ally that fought with one hand and kept the other hand in our pockets. It wasn't such a coincidence that Bin Laden was gotten only when we kept the entire operation a secret from the Pakis.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-11-25   14:42:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Shoonra (#3)

It wasn't such a coincidence that Bin Laden was gotten only when we kept the entire operation a secret from the Pakis.

Except that Bin Laden was already dead and had been for years. If they really did get him then why the alleged "burial at sea"? And they tell us, or have, over and over on the hallucination box that it takes days, even weeks, to get DNA analysis done, yet your hero (the Kenyan) informed the gullible and naive that they had proven through DNA analysis (and in just a few hours at that) that they killed Bin Laden. Uh huh.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-11-25   16:02:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#5. To: James Deffenbach (#4)

Actually, with the very advanced equipment of the CIA, which is probably considerably flashier than a regular hospital's lab, a DNA match can be done "overnight". The announcement about the DNA match was made more than a day after the raid. The CIA already had the DNA of some Bin Laden relatives, so part of the work was already done.

articles.latimes.com/2011...laden-conspiracy-20110503

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