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Title: Abuse victim claims Penn State pedophilia predates Sandusky, current scandal by decades
Source: NY Daily News
URL Source: http://articles.nydailynews.com/201 ... ate-professor-abuse-man-claims
Published: Nov 27, 2011
Author: LARRY MCSHANE
Post Date: 2011-11-27 00:19:01 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Pedophelia, Sandusky, Penn State, censored reference to Pe** Sta
Views: 3162
Comments: 66

Abuse victim claims Penn State pedophilia predates  Sandusky, current scandal by decades 

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#1. To: Original_Intent (#0)

In 2006, the professor — without admitting any wrongdoing — reached an out-of-court settlement with McLaughlin in a lawsuit filed by the purported victim.

I guess that is why the tapes weren't released.

But why did he not send this to LEO? Why the university? Not that LEO would have done anything about it, since they let Sandusky rape kids for all these years. But still it is a LE matter.

That doesn't make sense to me. Unless it was because of a statute of limitations.

Looks like the pedos were well entrenched at Pedd St. These professors act like catholic priests.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-11-27   6:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-27   8:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Point being, I tend to think that this is demonic/evil/satanic rather than merely 'criminal.'

I disagree.

I see it as psychological. Many were abused as kids and that has an effect. They were preyed upon, and now they are the predators. We didn't go thru that, so we can't identify with it.

And I disagree on this being "demonic". Sheesh, Satan doesn't get any respect :(

It seems to be more of a mainstream christian thing to me. Spare the "rod", spoil the child. (I am SO GOING TO HELL for that...)

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-11-27   10:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

id like to know why the families of all these alleged kids would let their kids be alone so much with college football people? wtf? who were these people?

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-11-27   11:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Also, the question you asked last week stuck with me because I had the same question. Who was the "single officer" who was initially assigned to investigate the pervs & did nothing. What was his name, & where is he now.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-11-27   11:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

For the most part Artisan, these kids weren't from what most sane people would call traditional families. They were the kids of "single parents" (read mothers). One could easily open this mess up further to the collapse of the traditional family unit, which is encouraged by the whore media, HollyWeird, and the intentional attack on American values.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   11:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

(contd) didnt know is that my dad, uncle, brothers & their pals were about 20 rows up. haha. By the time "tough coach" reached them, my oldest bro & blocked & confronted him. Coach nearly pissed his pants LoL! He was "sweetie pie" for years afterwards.

Also,kids need to know they can trust their kin to protect them. When I was 14, a coach at a end season championship football game saw me running up the bleachers with a friend. The coach grabbed me by the shoulder & shouted to stop. Well, what the douche

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-11-27   11:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Also, the question you asked last week stuck with me because I had the same question. Who was the "single officer" who was initially assigned to investigate the pervs & did nothing. What was his name, & where is he now.

From the NY Times:

the two men identified by prosecutors as the police officers who worked on the case, Schreffler and Ralph Ralston, and the investigator with the state welfare department, Gerald Lauro, who was charged with determining if a child had been harmed.

Schreffler — who appears to have been the lead detective, and who interviewed Sandusky — refused to comment when reached at his home in Bellefonte, Pa. He has retired from the campus police force and works at least part time for a security firm in Baltimore, according to his former wife.

“I’ve got nothing to say,” Schreffler said Tuesday night.

Schreffler’s current wife, Laurel, reached Wednesday, said, “I’m sorry, I’m not allowed to talk.”

In an interview this week, Ralston, who said he worked for the local State College police force, insisted he played only a peripheral role in the investigation. He said his role was merely to make sure that campus police had access to the boy, who Ralston said lived in his jurisdiction.

“I can’t even remember anything about it,” Ralston said.

He said he never followed up with campus police or child welfare authorities to find out the conclusion of their investigations.

“I didn’t think any more of it until I read the report over the weekend,” he said of the attorney general’s charges against Sandusky and other university officials. “There was stuff in there I never heard before.”

Lauro, the investigator for the state welfare department in 1998, said he was aware during the investigation that Sandusky was a prominent local figure, but that it did not affect his work.

“Was he a high-profile person?” Lauro asked. “I’d have to be stupid to tell you no. Everybody knew him.”

At the time of his investigation, Lauro said, all the child said was that Sandusky showered with him, and it made him uncomfortable. Lauro said he didn’t feel that was enough to substantiate a sexual-abuse complaint.

Lauro suggested that the child, now grown, had told the grand jury convened by the attorney general a much more explicit account.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   11:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

well that makes perfect sense & relates to my post below. I went to one of these sports obsessed prep schools & i knew then that the mindset was screwy. My folks sent us there for the education though, not the sports obsession.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-11-27   11:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Also,kids need to know they can trust their kin to protect them.

True, but good luck with that today. Today the social system is so perverted that the insane are running the asylum. Many of us have allowed this, IMO, by disengaging and becoming the lead cast in the Hopeless and Helpless menagerie. I don't envy anyone raising children today, anywhere in this pig sty of a nation.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   11:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thanks for the info. Gerald Lauro & PA Child services" seem to have a very peculiar barometer of what inappropriate is. I wonder if today, 2011, PA child serviices still maintains that adults & children showering together is normal? Damn great headline

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-11-27   11:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I feel certain the problems here extend nationwide.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   11:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

true, but what I see here is an opportunity for a devastating PR blow to the state, aside from the football hacks. If PA socialists had done their job who knows how many thousands of molestations couldve been prevented. But no, they condoned it.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-11-27   12:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

and Pennsylvania most certainly is not alone...it is the State of the State.

christine  posted on  2011-11-27   12:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ever read stories of abuse like this that goes on in small towns for example? i have read numerous ones in Texas.

christine  posted on  2011-11-27   12:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Again, true, but it's PA that is under the microscope. I contend it's a national problem. You, being in CA, are at the epicenter of Hollywood, arguably the single most corrupt influence in our culture. If it, and the freaks this nation calls "stars", all disappeared tomorrow, the societal force feeding of sexual misfits would vanish immediately, and that would be a blessing. As a student of the pre Vatican II days, google the Legion of Decency. I recall it well.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   12:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-27   12:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-27   12:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-27   12:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Gerald Lauro, acting as an agent of PA govt, ruled that adults showering with children is acceptable & normal. Are Lauro & his bosses today, in 2011, showering nude with children that PA DCS steals from their parents?" Hows that for an opener? ;-)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-11-27   12:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-27   12:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-27   12:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To extrapolate Lauro's malfeasance, to an entire state, is where your argument rolls off the cliff, IMO.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   12:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ive never heard of the Legion of Decency, I'll look it up. CPS depts nationwide are the most digusting evil agencies that exist. I've actually taken the one in L.A. to court & won. They are truly despicable satanic bastards, words cannot even express it.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-11-27   12:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm in complete support of home schooling, and give you, and anyone else taking the time, money and effort to do it, all the credit in the world. If and when you do have to turn them over to a government University, they'll have a solid foundation which will - hopefully - help them avoid the Ivory Tower Perverts. This said, it's still a crap shoot w/kids. The influences on them are pure evil.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   12:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

but no one is claiming malfeasance on Lauro's part at all: the contention that there is nothing wrong with what he found speaks volumes for the agency that i know takes peoples kids daily for normal shouts & spanks given by normal parents.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-11-27   12:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No one is claiming it yet. It's all under investigation. But despite what is found regarding Lauro, sane people know it's complete malfeasance. Again, a sick sign of the times. I know nothing about biblical references, but I recall remembering, and being impressed by a reference that said something to the effect, as the end time approaches, those who previously exhibited good judgement and character, would change for the worse.

I think we're there.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   12:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-11-27   12:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the money aspect of homeschooling is in regards to the fact that most families dont think they could scrape by financially with only 1 parent working. & leaves the prospect of single parent homsechoolers virtually impossible. The bankers win again!

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-11-27   12:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

men that grew up w/o dads, etc., etc., ... that don't nor ever did molest young boys.

That is not what I meant. I meant that those that grew up being molested are likely to molest others, same as those that had dads abuse the mothers end up being abusive too, etc.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-11-27   14:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Gerald Lauro, acting as an agent of PA govt, ruled that adults showering with children is acceptable & normal. Are Lauro & his bosses today, in 2011, showering nude with children that PA DCS steals from their parents?" Hows that for an opener? ;-)

Now this story is really starting to smell like a texas feedlot on a hot muggy august day.

Either Lauro is lying, or the accuser is lying. I wonder who is telling the truth here. Cops dont lie, right? Especially when they are trying to cover their ass(es).

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-11-27   14:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ever read stories of abuse like this that goes on in small towns for example? i have read numerous ones in Texas.

There are plenty of pervs to go around. Sadly that does not surprise me, and the Jehovah's Witlesses are notorious for covering it up within their groups.

What makes this case different is that the lid has been blown off and it was not just one perv sidling up to a child. It was the use of a major local charitable group to create a front for pedophiles - and apparently some powerful and well heeled ones - who have the ability to make DA's "disappear". While I do not condone it in any case this appears to have been an organized operation that extended beyond Sandusky, and it was covered over and buried by adults who were more concerned with their careers, the money, etc., .... It is not just the abuse, as bad as it is, but the actions to try to cover it up and then justify the cover up.

The lack of apparent interest in doing what is right, on the part of the Pedd State fans and alumni, does not reflect well on them and the opprobrium it has brought about appears well earned.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-11-27   15:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

On a side note, if this was a hot female teacher, we would not be seeing the outrage from men associated with this story.

What is a calorie? Calories are the little bastards that get into your wardrobe at night and sew your clothes tighter... MY CLOSET IS INFESTED WITH THE LITTLE SHITS.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-11-27   15:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't envy anyone raising children today, anywhere in this pig sty of a nation.

We wonder all but daily if the Tyranny/pigs are going to prevent us from finishing home-schooling our kids. There are so many false perceptions out there about home-schooling.

And those false perceptions have been carefully planted and repeated. The establishment/Psych power structure does not like home schooling because it shows up just how bad the publik skools are. That is one of the reasons they keep looking for ways to keep home schooled kids out of such as the National Spelling and Math Bees - because home schoolers are winning them. And given the very small percentage of kids being home schooled that is a powerful indictment of the skool systum.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-11-27   15:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

who have the ability to make DA's "disappear".

Who are the "who" you are referring to?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   15:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#34, agree here.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   15:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

On a side note, if this was a hot female teacher, we would not be seeing the outrage from men associated with this story.

Depends on the age of the kid. A teen would be one thing and a ten year old another. However, I'm not aware of any organized pedophile rings of hot female teachers using a charity as a front. Are you? Sandusky seems to have had a taste for young boys. Big difference. While the hot female teacher may well have a loose screw it is hetero not homo. Nevertheless an adult preying on a child is not acceptable. We had a former governor chased out of the state because it came out that he'd been screwing a neighbor's 14 year old daughter. The local establishment, including the Whoregonian Newspaper, remained mute until it was exposed by smaller press operations.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-11-27   15:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

yes age has a lot to do with it as does orientation though I'm sure if you asked Sandusky he would say he is not homo and actually believe it.

What is a calorie? Calories are the little bastards that get into your wardrobe at night and sew your clothes tighter... MY CLOSET IS INFESTED WITH THE LITTLE SHITS.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-11-27   15:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

who have the ability to make DA's "disappear".

Who are the "who" you are referring to?

If I knew I would say. I am simply making an inference. In the case of the DA it could have been another case, but the circumstantial evidence strongly suggests he was whacked. If, as I suspect and the rumors indicate, that the Second (s)Mile was being used as a feeder for other peds with high level big money connections then that provides a motive for silencing a too inquisitive DA. Like in any kind of detective work you have to start with the best theories that explain the available evidence and then dig for more evidence to either confirm or disprove the theory.

What is so troubling here has been the apparent active disinterest of a lot of people to start turning over rocks to see what scuttles out.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-11-27   15:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

yes age has a lot to do with it as does orientation though I'm sure if you asked Sandusky he would say he is not homo and actually believe it.

It would appear he has a lot of other mistaken apprehensions as well.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-11-27   15:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

In the case of the DA it could have been another case, but the circumstantial evidence strongly suggests he was whacked.

Consider this, keeping in mind Occam's razor;

1) There was a known family history of suicide. Gricar’s brother, Roy, committed suicide. Roy Gricar suffered from serious depression, which can be genetic. Police and family members noted that the location where Ray’s vehicle was found – adjacent to two bridges over the Susquehanna River – bore some similarities to the location where the vehicle of Roy Gricar, was located before his body was found in the Great Miami River in Ohio in 1996.

2) Ray Gricar had a previous disappearance. While in his capacity as DA, he went AWOL for three? days, surfacing in Cleveland only to say he wanted to see his beloved Indians play baseball.

3) IIRC, at the time it was reported that Gricar’s demeanor in the weeks prior to his disappearance had changed. This came from his co-workers, people who knew him, and a member of the press that talked to him a month before; his girlfriend and housemate noted that he napping more. That could be a symptom of depression.

4) Had/if he was “disappeared” why would a presumably highly skilled team snatch him, but leave behind his laptop and hard drive where they both would eventually discovered? And in a nearby river no less? Surly the abductors would expect the river would be the first place to be searched. My experience leads me to believe it would leave the scene with Gricar.

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5) Gricar's new car was titled in his g/f name alone. This could suggest a degree of "estate planning."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-11-27   16:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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