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Title: Newt Gingrich Thinks School Children Should Work as Janitors
Source: theatlantic.com/business/
URL Source: http://www.theatlantic.com/business ... hould-work-as-janitors/248837/
Published: Nov 21, 2011
Author: Jordan Weissmann
Post Date: 2011-11-27 18:37:09 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Dickensian, Newt Gingrich, child labor laws
Views: 529
Comments: 30

The GOP presidential candidate wants nine-year-olds to work as janitors. It's not merely a crazy plan (although it's plenty crazy). It's also evidence of a deep disrespect for and ignorance of American work. ______

Last Friday, during an event at Harvard, Republican presidential contender Newt Gingrich offered up a modest plan for alleviating poverty in the United States. It was time, he said, to relax our "truly stupid" child labor laws. In particular, schools should fire their unionized janitors, and hire children as young as nine to do the work instead. Per The New York Times:

"You say to somebody, you shouldn't go to work before you're what, 14, 16 years of age, fine," Mr. Gingrich said. "You're totally poor. You're in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I've tried for years to have a very simple model. Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they'd begin the process of rising."

This suggestion is, on its face, insane. It sounds like a bad Stephen Colbert joke. But if you stop and consider its merits for a minute or two...well no, it's still quite insane. And if you spend an evening researching the nitty gritty of what public school custodians actually do for a living, it turns out to be downright cruel.

It's not really worth engaging Gingrich's idea as a serious policy suggestion. I just don't see the buckets-and-books plan getting much traction in Congress. But his comments are worth dwelling on for a moment, because they're a jarring illustration of Gingrich's casual disdain for American workers.

My assumption is that Gingrich disagrees with the critics who quickly called his plan "Dickensian." Instead, he probably believes that janitorial work is a relatively safe, mindless occupation on par a paper route or neighborhood car wash. Otherwise, there's no reason to think a child could handle it.

So what do janitors actually do? It's a lot more than mopping. To get a sense, look over this job description for a New York City public school custodial engineer--a "master janitor," as Gingrich would put it. He and his team of cleaners and handymen are responsible for cleaning, yes. That part involves hazardous chemicals like hydrochloric acid. They also operate the school's heating system, do electrical repairs, maintain the school grounds, take care of the HVAC equipment, and handle basic plumbing fixes, among other assorted jobs. I ask: What parent wants a nine-year-old, or even a thirteen-year-old, toying with the HVAC in her school?

None. Because this is hard. It's adult work. It can also be brutal on your health. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, janitors miss work due to on-the-job injuries more often than almost any other occupation. They rank in the top seven on that statistic, along police officers and construction workers. Janitors get splashed with corrosive chemicals. They injure their backs bending over mops and toilets all day. These aren't concerns you take lightly.

It would be easy to chalk Gingrich's comments up simply to his well-known animus towards unions. But I don't think that quite explains it. Rational people can argue about how much someone should be paid to clean. An average school janitor makes $12.45 an hour. It's not an extravagant amount, but it approaches a living wage for a single person living in some areas. In some places, the unionized janitors may well be making too much. There are plenty of school districts that outsource their cleaning to private firms. But that decision starts from the respectful assumption that maintaining a school is something worthwhile for an adult to spend their lives on.

That's not the case in Gingrich's worldview. Forget that an adult might need that job to put food on the table for their own children. Forget that he's suggesting we flood an ailing job market with part time, minimum-wage-earning students. This isn't about labor economics. It's about respect, and the fact that the leading Republican presidential candidate doesn't have a spit's worth of it for manual labor. In his eyes, a janitor's job just doesn't mean much. It's so easy, a child could do it.

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#1. To: GreyLmist (#0)

They also operate the school's heating system, do electrical repairs, maintain the school grounds, take care of the HVAC equipment, and handle basic plumbing fixes, among other assorted jobs.

Enough for me.

Custodians do Not do electrical or HVAC work.

Lod  posted on  2011-11-27   18:43:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#1) (Edited)

Enough for me.

Custodians do Not do electrical or HVAC work.

I could be wrong but have read that although Janitors and Custodians both do cleaning, the Custodian title might include some maintenance duties, minor or otherwise, in addition to cleaning -- even if it's just changing light bulbs and heater filters occasionally. Still, this from the article is concerning to me:

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, janitors miss work due to on-the-job injuries more often than almost any other occupation. They rank in the top seven on that statistic, along police officers and construction workers.

I didn't mind cleaning the blackboard with water and a sponge when I was in school but if schools can't afford janitors who are adult U.S. citizens to clean the restrooms, floors, windows, etc., that's another good reason, imo, to transition to online schools and homeschooling. What with their class schedules and homework after school, students are already near or beyond a 40-hour workload for a week and they get paid nothing as it is for the work they do towards achieving skills that can benefit our society -- or for generating every teaching job, maintenance job, transportaion and cafeteria job, union business, and more within the school system.

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#18. To: GreyLmist, 4 (#8)

They rank in the top seven on that statistic, along police officers and construction workers.

Seriously, does anyone here believe that is the truth?

We all know what is involved in cleaning a room or a house.

Why aren't we all disabled and getting worker's comp?

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#21. To: Lod (#18)

I'm not trying to post baseless info and flimsy concerns. I don't know what the statistics actually are for janitorial work-injury compensation claims and missed workdays due to pulled muscles, slips, falls, or whatever as compared to other occupations but I would think it's higher than say office work generally. Maybe the author's notation about it in the article is of more concern to me with regard to children because I have a scar on my forehead from simply running into the house as a youngster and not realizing that the floor had just been mopped and waxed. Maybe I'm just fretting needlessly but at this point I still suspect that janitorial injuries on the job would probably be higher for minors than adults.

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