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Title: New info on 9-11
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Published: Nov 29, 2011
Author: btp holdings
Post Date: 2011-11-29 16:58:24 by BTP Holdings
Keywords: 9-11
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Comments: 29

I have just finished reading a book by Donn de Grand Pre which says that the Global Hawk was responsible for the 9-11 hits on the World Trade Center buildings.
This from a search on bing.com:
According to the Air Force, the capabilities of the aircraft allow more precise targeting of weapons and better protection of forces through superior surveillance capabilities.
However, this does not explain why WTC 7 collpased. I suspect it may have been Mossad truck bombs which caused this to occur.
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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
#7 went down because of preplanted demolitions. period.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2011-11-29 17:29:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Rotara (#1) (Edited)
#7 went down because of preplanted demolitions

I believe that is correct. ;)
But, how does that explain the "dancing Israelis"?
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2011-11-29 17:30:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: BTP Holdings (#2)
it doesn't need to.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2011-11-29 17:32:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
However, this does not explain why WTC 7 collpased. I suspect it may have been Mossad truck bombs which caused this to occur.

Unlikely. The collapse of building 7 was symmetrical with the building imploding into its own foot print. The only thing that provides that signature is a controlled demolition with explosives planted at key points on the structural members and then detonated in sequence to remove support. Also the building collapsed at a freefall rate of 6.6 seconds from the beginning of the collapse to completion.
It was bombs, but not truck bombs. It had to be some type of demolition explosives, and mostly likely nano-thermites. Although I do not rule out a combination of different types of explosives for specific events. Remember the construction of the building was a strong central core of reinforced steel beams, and yet, if you slow the film down, you can see that, that is where the collapse initiated. In other words the strongest load bearing section of the building was removed and the only way to do that in the manner observed is as a controlled, sequenced, timed, and intentional demolition.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-11-29 17:33:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Rotara, BTP Holdings (#3)
it doesn't need to.

Exactly. The dancing Israelis proves nothing other than foreknowledge of the day's "Program".
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-11-29 17:34:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: Original_Intent (#4)
Also the building collapsed at a freefall rate of 6.6 seconds from the beginning of the collapse to completion.

Yup, that's right. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2011-11-29 17:39:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Original_Intent (#5)
that's right Bro. hard to imagine it actually happened on our watch. my relation said the same about ever fucking war since the Spanish War though ! lol false flags are olde school history for critical thinkers and people honest of heart imo.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2011-11-29 17:40:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Original_Intent, christine, Jethro Tull, James, Lod, Wud, All, 4 (#5)
RIP Barry Jennings

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2011-11-29 17:41:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Original_Intent (#4)
It was bombs, but not truck bombs. It had to be some type of demolition explosives, and mostly likely nano-thermites. Although I do not rule out a combination of different types of explosives for specific events. Remember the construction of the building was a strong central core of reinforced steel beams, and yet, if you slow the film down, you can see that, that is where the collapse initiated. In other words the strongest load bearing section of the building was removed and the only way to do that in the manner observed is as a controlled, sequenced, timed, and intentional demolition.

To set those charges and rig building 7 for a controlled demolition that was as perfect as can be, it would have taken many weeks and maybe even months. Surely somebody like Rudy Guiliana woul have to know it was being wired with explosives. Maybe someday Rudy might spill the beans.

ambi posted on 2011-11-29 17:45:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: Rotara (#7)
Michael Rivero wrote a good piece on it - in fact that is what got him banned from FreepTardia because it was historically sound and irrefutable. (It also indirectly, by his banning for the piece, proves that Free Republic a.k.a. "FreepTardia" is nothing resembling free. It is Controlled Opposition and PsyOps.)
Link: whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ARTICLE5/index.php
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-11-29 18:10:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: Rotara (#1)
Yep. No truck bomb(s) could have dropped that building with such precision. Unless of course Jim Tressel was somehow involved.

Obnoxicated posted on 2011-11-29 20:16:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Rotara (#1)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
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Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-29 20:51:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Original_Intent (#4)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-29 20:54:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Obnoxicated (#11)
Jim Tressel

Yep, but without that damn sweater without arms...lol

Lysander_Spooner posted on 2011-11-29 23:00:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
Okay, I'm reading this, and the subsequent commentary and think I need to say something.
During the months prior to 9-11, the sprinkler and emergency systems were worked on, in the twin towers, and Building 7. This would have been sufficient cover for anyone who needed to have access to the pilings, the superstructure, and any and all access points. To wire up a building for demolition doesn't take particularly long, provided the people in question are qualified demolitions experts at taking down large buildings. Now I'm wondering why it is, that we haven't seen or read about people in the Demolition Industry either going missing, or their company making a shitload of money?
I'm waiting for people to wake up and start doing that sort of investigation because I would bet that it's a company used by our government to get rid of large structures on governmental lands. People need to really examine this event and scrutinize every and all possibility. You have Bernie Kerik going to Israel just a few weeks before 9-11. You have Paul Bremer at the center of the conspiracy. People need to really take a look at who has really prospered, and that will tell you who did 9-11.
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TommyTheMadArtist posted on 2011-11-29 23:35:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#15)
You have Bernie Kerik going to Israel just a few weeks before 9-11. You have Paul Bremer at the center of the conspiracy. People need to really take a look at who has really prospered, and that will tell you who did 9-11.

This is the key. And let's not forget about Tom Ridge and the Department of Homeland Insecurity. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2011-11-30 16:24:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Eric Stratton (#13)
The key to 7 is how the penthouse on top begins to cave first, then the central, not the exterior (where the damage was), column supports.

And that is key to understanding how the building was taken down.
What that tells us is that the central support structure was the first section to be taken out. That it was a symmetrical collapse tells us that it was initiated in 360 degrees and not at one weak point where the failure begins as in a normal structural failure.
So, what we can take from this visual evidence, since the physical evidence was carefully guarded until it was destroyed, is that something was used to massively compromise the entire primary load bearing structure in one simultaneous event which automatically rules out a normal structural failure. The only thing that can create the evidence observed is a controlled demolition.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-11-30 17:48:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: TommyTheMadArtist, BTP Holdings (#15)
People need to really take a look at who has really prospered, and that will tell you who did 9-11.

That is definitely an important part in ferreting out who conducted the operation: "Cui bono?". Who benefits?
However, that is almost separate from the mechanics of the collapse. Although the sophistication of the explosive technology used tells us that the only operation capable of doing this would be a government operation, and that does not necessarily mean ours. While I don't subscribe to the "Israel did it all by themselves" disinformation line certainly they were involved, but this operation was bigger than Israel and involved elements inside and outside of our government coordinated by person or persons unknown, but likely somewhere within the rotted bowels of the Rothschild headed international bankster combine.
The problem with 911 at this point is that so many false trails have been planted that people bite on one of them and then go off on a wild goose chase on one thread of the "plausible", but at least partially false, trails.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-11-30 17:56:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: Original_Intent (#17)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-30 21:01:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: Original_Intent, TommyTheMadArtist, BTP Holdings (#18) (Edited)
marvin bush was running security for those buildings and would know who and what the fire suppression system maintenance and IT connectivity crews really were. the link is to an article dealing with a mysterious death of one in marvin bush's employ.
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
IRTorqued posted on 2011-12-01 8:04:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: Eric Stratton (#19)
There's absolutely no way on earth that with the damage that had been done to the building at the time that anyone could/would have guessed much less predicted that the entire building would come down to the bottom floors.

And collapse neatly into its own footprint.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-12-01 17:10:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: Original_Intent (#18) (Edited)
"Cui bono?". Who benefits?

Hit the nail on the head! I believe the correct translation is, "Who profits?" ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2011-12-01 17:31:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: IRTorqued (#20)
From the article by Wayne Madsen:
which police say had somehow been left in gear.

Yeah, well, I doubt that a vehicle could be left in gear since it has to be in park to shut it off or even to get out of the car. Very doubtful indeed.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2011-12-01 17:35:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Original_Intent (#5)
dancing Israelis
foreknowledge

This is the key to "who dunnit".
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2011-12-01 18:04:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Original_Intent (#21)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-12-01 23:35:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Eric Stratton (#25)
And collapse neatly into its own footprint.
... and unlike even more damaged buildings around it.

Exactly. WTC 6 sustained more damage and still had to be torn down. In fact some of the phony photos that were circulated purporting to show damage to WTC 7 were actually photos of WTC 6 which had been reversed. So, the level of planted disinformation is tremendous which is why I am careful to filter through it and only accept data that can be cross checked and verified.
Remember The White Rose"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2011-12-01 23:38:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: Original_Intent (#26)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-12-01 23:53:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: BTP Holdings (#23)
note also how they (police) omitted the part about this originating at the bush compound in the report they dragged their feet to post.
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
IRTorqued posted on 2011-12-02 11:21:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#15)
During the months prior to 9-11, the sprinkler and emergency systems were worked on, in the twin towers, and Building 7. This would have been sufficient cover for anyone who needed to have access to the pilings, the superstructure, and any and all access points. To wire up a building for demolition doesn't take particularly long, provided the people in question are qualified demolitions experts at taking down large buildings. Now I'm wondering why it is, that we haven't seen or read about people in the Demolition Industry either going missing, or their company making a shitload of money?
I'm waiting for people to wake up and start doing that sort of investigation because I would bet that it's a company used by our government to get rid of large structures on governmental lands.

www.controlled-demolition.com/about-us

www.controlled-demolition.com/services-government
www.youtube.com/theloizeauxgroupllc
not pointing the finger...all i know is not too long after 911, faux 5 news in dc had a morning segment about this company exhibiting at the baltimore science museum. they kept showing this skyscraper falling in on itself like the wtc; i called my daughter to look at it. i think i remember this young woman from the firm saying there were 6 people in the firm or maybe 6 who knew how to take down buildings...and another had "recently" left...i think it was her husband [i got the impression he knew how to take down buildings as well]...they had split up...always wondered about that...seemed odd the way they kept showing that building falling...like somebody was trying to tell us something.
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