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Title: The Most Common Grammatical Error Made By Educated People Today?
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URL Source: http://groups.google.com/group/can. ... thread/26457d824d1fbb41?hl=en#
Published: Dec 4, 2011
Author: Clyde Armstrong
Post Date: 2011-12-04 06:21:08 by Tatarewicz
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Comments: 30

It used to be using the tautological, unacceptable, non-existent adjective "irregardless" in place of the correct word "regardless". But one hardly ever hears that mistake any more. This is good.

Today many fairly-well educated politicians, bureaucrats, teachers at all level, media celebrities etc. mispronounce the word "forte" (one's strong point) as "fortay" which is a musical term meaning strong or loud. The musical term is spelled the same way, "forte", but must, according to our good dictionaries, be pronounced "fortay", not "fort". If one is referring to a person's strength in some area the word "forte" must be pronounced "fort".

So whenever you hear a person say "fortay" when he/she is describing a person's "strong point, correct him He will silently thank you for it, but not for the embarrassment.

Today by far the most common and annoying grammatical mistake, however, is made by people who should know better. They confuse the transitive verb "lay" (meaning "to place"), with the intransitive verb "lie" (meaning "to recline").

How often to you hear on TV, the radio, movies or in real life some person say "I found the body laying in the alleyway". It should be of course, " I found the body lying (i.e. reclining) in the alleyway" .

The correct form is "I was lying down" when the phone rang, not I was "laying down".

It is "I lay the book on the table", not "I lie the book on the table".

Here are the infinitives, first person present tense, first person past tense and the present and past participles of the verbs "lie" and "lay".

Transitive: i) to lie down, ii) I lie down, iii) yesterday I lay down, iii) I am lying down iv) I had been lying down

Intransitive: ii) to lay ii) I lay the down iii) yesterday I laid the book down iii) I am laying the book down iv) I have laid the book down

Get this straight. As George Orwell wrote: "Sloppy language leads to sloppy thinking, and sloppy thinking leads to sloppy politics"-- or words to that effect.

Over the years I have made many errors in spelling and grammar myself. But I am not being pretentious in writing that the confusion between the two different verbs "to lie" (i.e. recline) and "to lay" (i.e. to place something") is inexcusable. It annoys me. After all, this basic grammar is not rocket science.

Over the years I have made many errors in spelling and grammar myself. But I am not being pretentious in writing that the confusion between the two different verbs "to lie" (i.e. recline) and "to lay" (i.e. to place something") is inexcusable. It annoys me. After all, this basic grammar is not rocket science.

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#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

What gripes me is the way people misuse a and an.

Quick English Lesson:
To=toward   two=2   too=also
Their=possessive   They're=they are  There=location
Its=possessive   it's=it is
Your=possessive   You're=You are
Form plurals correctly; no dog's, cat's, applications's, business's
Use capitalization and punctuation.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-12-04   8:46:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: James Deffenbach, Tatarewicz, abraxas, christine, all (#3) (Edited)

What gripes me is the way people misuse a and an.

Even better purchase a copy of:

1. "Elements of Style" by Strunk and White.

"Vigorous writing is concise. A sentence should contain no unnecessary words, a paragraph no unnecessary sentences, for the same reason that a drawing should have no unnecessary lines and a machine no unnecessary parts. This requires not that the writer make all sentences short or avoid all detail and treat subjects only in outline, but that every word tell." ~ Wm. Strunk Jr.

2. "Fowler's Modern English Usage."

If one were to have no other books upon the subject of correct English usage in their personal library I would commend those two as being the most essential.

To those I would add, to flesh things out,

3. "On Writing Well" by Wm. Zinnsser

4. "The Oxford American Dictionary" Generally good clear definitions of most of the words one is likely to run into even in educated writing.

5. The first place to go for understandable definitions: "The Webster's New World Dictionary for Young Readers" Clear and concise, written in simple language designed to communicate the meaning of words, not to impress other lexicographers with the editor's erudition.

With those tools on hand one can then branch out into more specialized tomes covering finer points of usage.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-04 15:35:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach (#3)

"Your=possessive You're=You are"

A blast from the past:

Big Meanie  posted on  2011-12-04 16:05:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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