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Title: The Libertarian Intelligentsia Is Freaking Out Over Newt
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Published: Dec 6, 2011
Author: Pema Levy
Post Date: 2011-12-06 12:47:28 by farmfriend
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Pema Levy December 6, 2011, 5:32 AM Libertarians in Washington are not happy about how the Republican primary is shaping up. Barring a miracle, there are two candidates with a decent shot at the nomination. Mitt Romney, the godfather of Obamacare, is not libertarians’ first choice. And they think Newt Gingrich, the new frontrunner, is even worse. On Monday, Christopher Barron, a Republican strategist with libertarian leanings and head of GOProud, which represents gay conservatives, penned an op-ed mourning Herman Cain’s exit from the race. In his stead, Barron endorsed Gary Johnson, the libertarian former governor of New Mexico. Now, many of Cain’s supporters had tea party inclinations, and the latest polling suggests many of them are swinging Newt’s way. Barron thinks that’s a terrible mistake. “Newt is the establishment. He’s antithetical to what the Tea Party is talking about,” explains Barron. “This is about building on the Tea Party’s success. It would take a lot of selective amnesia” to think Newt could represent the Tea Party’s agenda. Since the advent of the Tea Party in 2009, libertarians finally began to feel more at home with the right. The Republican Party, at least its rhetoric, was taking on a libertarian tone. They talked about lower taxes, shrinking the size of government, and constitutional originalism, which in theory would eliminate a lot of government regulations libertarians feel interfere with the free market. In Washington, the libertarian Cato Institute embraced the new movement, with events like a September 2010 book forum with Dick Armey and Matt Kibbe of FreedomWorks on their book, Give Us Liberty: A Tea Party Manifesto. But Republicans’ enthusiasm for libertarian ideals has not translated into the primary field, and libertarians are putting out a host of articles in conservative publications this week now that Newt Gingrich could end up with the nomination. “There’s a belief that the field represents a pre-Tea Party Republicanism,” said Michael D. Tanner, a senior research fellow at the Libertarian Cato Institute. It’s a crop of left-overs, he explains. Libertarians wanted Paul Ryan or Chris Christie. Instead, they got “pre-Tea Party folks.” Tanner wrote an op-ed last week in National Review Online on both Romney and Gingrich’s brand of Bush-era, big government conservatism. “Gingrich has been held in low-esteem by libertarians for a long time.” But outside Washington, where voters are less in tune with Cato, Tea Partiers looking for a candidate — having moved past their Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain phases — are taking a second look at Gingrich and he’s surging in the polls. “Those at Cato and Reason [magazine] are much more informed,” says David Boaz, a vice president at Cato. “People who have looked at their records would not like them.” But, he can see see why libertarian-leaning voters would like Gingrich “if they are not well-informed.” This week, Cato vice president Gene Healy penned a piece in the Washington Examiner urging conservatives not to settle on Newt. “Newt’s hardly the ‘anti-Romney,’” Healy cautions, “he’s Mitt Romney with more baggage.” According to Healy, Gingrich’s opposition to Paul Ryan’s budget, which remade Medicare into a private coverage system, betrayed an “irresponsible approach toward entitlements.” When it comes to foreign policy, Healy reminds us, in 2009 Newt “proposed zapping a North Korean missile site with laser weapons.” Boaz concurs: “Gingrich looks like a volatile guy to have his finger on the button.” The libertarian magazine Reason has been in full anti-Newt gear this week as well. In one article titled “Appalling Moments in Newtspeak,” Jacob Sullum reminds readers of Gingrich’s willingness to compromise civil liberties in the name of national security. While less than perfect, libertarians are hoping for a Jon Huntsman resurgence to spare them from Newt and Mitt. “I think there is burgeoning interest in Jon Huntsman,” says Boaz, though perhaps “too late to matter.” While not a card-carrying libertarian, says Tanner, he possesses the right combination of a very conservative economic agenda and more moderate positions on foreign policy and social issues. But a candidate Romney or God-forbid Gingrich is more likely. Libertarian blogger Will Wilkinson expressed the libertarian frustration with Newt Gingrich with a little dramatic flair on Twitter Monday: “If Newt Gingrich becomes president, we all deserve to die in a purifying fire.” The Libertarian Intelligentsia Is Freaking Out Over Newt
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#1. To: farmfriend (#0)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
exactly! What is a calorie? Calories are the little bastards that get into your wardrobe at night and sew your clothes tighter... MY CLOSET IS INFESTED WITH THE LITTLE SHITS.
"Libertarians in Washington" are known as "Beltway" libertarians, and they can go eat shit as far as I'm concerned. And I'm speaking as a libertarian. Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war. So you're no longer promoting the Mexican invasion?
This is exactly the scenario that is being set up. Grinch will fade as there are a lot of traditional R's that simply cannot stand the man, and the more one learns of the real Gringrich the less there is to like. Of course the Zionazi Banksters react to Ron Paul like a Vampire to Garlic - so they are obviously setting up Huntsman to be the "White Knight" riding to victory over the morally decrepit Gingrich and the Original Intent Paul. No matter who gets in -- with the exception of Paul -- they will be corporate and bankster whores. Newt, Mitt, Rick, Hillary -- they're all the same.
Modern propaganda as defined by Jacques Ellul is the systematic immersion of the public in a particular way of looking at the world.
The "Beltway libertarians" are so thoroughly infiltrated and controlled as to not be worthy of any significant trust of any kind. What the hell is wrong with those people? Have they not heard of Ron Paul? Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein "...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Every time I listen to Newt give a talk I just tremble with "amnesia". He gives me the Willies. Reminds me of the Republican nominee for Mayor of Chicago back when Harold Washington was running. Washington said, "Dick Breczeck gives me the heebie geebies." Next thing the Repubs made up a black cap with big greeen letters that said, "HEEBIE GEEBIES". ROTFLMAO! "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
The solution is seccession. War and big government. It's all the same. The old Confederacy tried that and failed. Any other suggestions? "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
exactly. And given his voting record, how could ANY tea party person support him. What good will it do to vote Obama out of office if you just vote in Newt? What is a calorie? Calories are the little bastards that get into your wardrobe at night and sew your clothes tighter... MY CLOSET IS INFESTED WITH THE LITTLE SHITS.
This is true. What is a calorie? Calories are the little bastards that get into your wardrobe at night and sew your clothes tighter... MY CLOSET IS INFESTED WITH THE LITTLE SHITS.
War and big government. It's all the same. The old Confederacy tried that and failed. Any other suggestions? I have a lot of guns but can't find the keys to the gunship. War and big government. It's all the same. The old Confederacy tried that and failed. Any other suggestions? Eventually it will be time to try again. These are different times. And only the most intellectually dishonest will say that the motive will be to reestablish slavery. Also, I think the important thing is to emphasize DECENTRALIZATION to the max. So hopefully no "alternative" central govt to replace DC. The methods of seceding will have to be different than the confederacy. A standing army simply will not fare against the feds. Asymmetrical warfare or warfare as we don't know it will be required. But I think DC will go so broke that it will be easier than in the 19th century. The Roman Empire split into two parts, and then the West fragmented totally. That the US will suffer a similar or worse fate is almost inevitable, short of taking out the entire world in a murder-suicide (imagine if the Romans had nukes). Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war. Newt won't survive the first poll that juxtaposes him with any other viable candidate. He's like the kid at a pool party who jumps in the pool and splashes water on everyone. He can command attention for a short time but when he's finally done showing his ass his popularity will be the same or even less if in the spirit of meanness he pushes even more water into people's faces while riding his big splash moment. He's widely perceived as "a dogmatic pragmatist" which is to say he's a serious butthead politician. On 20 March, the Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano announced that the plant would be decommissioned once the crisis was over. Japans foreign minister criticized foreign media reports over the accident as overdone and excessive.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡ "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
#2. To: farmfriend (#0)
#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)
They just have different ideas about who should be in the concentration camps.
#4. To: farmfriend (#0)
Libertarians in Washington...
Your vote is steering the country
If you believe in small government, then you shouldn't be in the White House.
#5. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)
"....I finally gave up all of my lefty leanings."
#6. To: farmfriend (#0)
While less than perfect, libertarians are hoping for a Jon Huntsman resurgence to spare them from Newt and Mitt. “I think there is burgeoning interest in Jon Huntsman,” says Boaz, though perhaps “too late to matter.” While not a card-carrying libertarian, says Tanner, he possesses the right combination of a very conservative economic agenda and more moderate positions on foreign policy and social issues.
#7. To: farmfriend (#0)
#8. To: PnbC, farmfriend (#4)
"Libertarians in Washington" are known as "Beltway" libertarians, and they can go eat shit as far as I'm concerned. And I'm speaking as a libertarian.
#9. To: farmfriend (#0)
While less than perfect, libertarians are hoping for a Jon Huntsman resurgence to spare them from Newt and Mitt. “I think there is burgeoning interest in Jon Huntsman,” says Boaz, though perhaps “too late to matter.” While not a card-carrying libertarian, says Tanner, he possesses the right combination of a very conservative economic agenda and more moderate positions on foreign policy and social issues.
#10. To: farmfriend (#0)
(Edited)
It would take a lot of selective amnesia” to think Newt could represent the Tea Party’s agenda.
#11. To: PnbC (#4)
(Edited)
Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
#12. To: BTP Holdings (#10)
He gives me the Willies.
#13. To: Turtle, Original_Intent (#7)
No matter who gets in -- with the exception of Paul -- they will be corporate and bankster whores. Newt, Mitt, Rick, Hillary -- they're all the same.
#14. To: BTP Holdings (#11)
The solution is seccession.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#15. To: BTP Holdings (#11)
(Edited)
The solution is seccession.
Your vote is steering the country
If you believe in small government, then you shouldn't be in the White House.
#16. To: farmfriend (#0)
The Libertarian Intelligentsia Is Freaking Out Over Newt
#17. To: Big Meanie (#5)
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