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Title: Bush Administration Pushing Domestic Surveillance Envelope [Illegal Police State]
Source: Chuck Baldwin Live
URL Source: http://chuck-wagon@chuckbaldwinlive.com
Published: Oct 28, 2005
Author: Chuck Baldwin
Post Date: 2005-10-28 22:05:55 by OKCSubmariner
Keywords: Administration, Surveillance, Domestic
Views: 41
Comments: 10

Secret wiretaps. Seized bank records. Unconsented physical searches. Secret computer tracking. Enter the ever-growing government world of domestic spying.

A recent Washington Post report (Monday, Oct. 24, 2005; A01) stated, "The FBI has conducted clandestine surveillance on some U.S. residents for as long as 18 months at a time without proper paperwork or oversight, according to previously classified documents to be released today.

"Records turned over as part of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit also indicate that the FBI has investigated hundreds of potential violations related to its use of secret surveillance operations."

The report also said, "[FBI] agents obtained e-mails after a warrant expired, seized bank records without proper authority and conducted an improper 'unconsented physical search,' according to the documents.

"Although heavily censored, the documents provide a rare glimpse into the world of domestic spying, which is governed by a secret court and overseen by a presidential board that does not publicize its deliberations. The records are also emerging as the House and Senate battle over whether to put new restrictions on the controversial USA Patriot Act, which made it easer for the government to conduct secret searches and surveillance but has come under attack from civil liberties groups."

The Post report quotes David Sobel, general counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center as saying, "We're seeing what might be the tip of the iceberg at the FBI and across the intelligence community. It indicates that the existing mechanisms do not appear adequate to prevent abuses or to ensure the public that abuses that are identified are treated seriously and remedied."

This writer has previously attempted to warn his readers regarding the way this administration seems obsessed with trampling America's basic liberties under the rubric of national security. Americans should be very concerned when any administration, Republican or Democrat, is willing to disregard or even suspend the Constitution and Bill of Rights-for any reason! And that is exactly what the Bush administration seems determined to do!

However, the Bush administration does not seem content to routinely abuse our right to privacy. It has also publicly called for the suspension of Posse Comitatus and for the U.S. military to take charge of domestic emergencies. (Source: The Washington Times, "Bush seeks to federalize emergencies," Sept. 27, 2005)

I believe it is urgent that the American people, especially people calling themselves conservatives, become cognizant of the many attempts by the Bush administration to eviscerate the constitutional protections of our liberties. We must not allow this, or any, administration to undo this remarkable experiment in liberty.

It is incumbent upon all Americans to remember that any government that is unwilling to conduct itself according to the enumerated principles contained within the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the U.S. Constitution is a rogue government deserving neither our submission nor support!

I urge my readers to listen to my radio interview with former Georgia congressman Bob Barr. (Go to http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/Interview_Barr.html)

At this very moment, House and Senate conferees are meeting to resolve differences with each chamber's version of the just-passed Patriot Act. The Senate version is preferable to that of the House. The truth is, the House version is nightmarish, as it contains almost no safeguards against further governmental abuse of power.

Congress is given oversight of the executive branch but heretofore has done little to exercise this important responsibility. It is time for people to let their congressmen know that they will tolerate no more infringements upon their liberties and privacy! Or have we become so sheepish that what previous generations of Americans found valuable enough to fight and die to obtain we now find too cheap to keep?

It is the responsibility of each generation of Americans to pass down to the next generation of Americans a nation that is both strong and free. This is not accomplished by laxity or indifference.

Claiming it is protecting America by fighting terrorism abroad, this administration sends US forces to Iraq and Afghanistan. At the same time, this same administration invades our privacy, attempts to expunge Posse Comitatus, and routinely ignores our own laws and Constitution. This, they say, is necessary to protect us from terrorism at home.

However, if in the quest for national security, Americans are subjected to ubiquitous surveillance, the loss of our right to privacy, and the abridgement of personal liberties, who is going to protect us from our own government?

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#1. To: Uncle Bill, Fred Mertz, Zipporah, swarthyguy, lodwick, itisalmosttoolate, Sparker, scooter, TommyTheMAdArtist, honway, robin, christine, Neil McIver, Sparker (#0)

PING!

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-10-28   22:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: OKCSubmariner (#0)

Don't forget these guys:

General Yevgeny Primakov and General Aleksandr V. Karpos

Former KGB counter-intelligence chief, General Oleg Kalugin, who is a Fox News commentator, recently stated that Admiral Poindexter's Office of Information Awareness (OIA) which is involved in spying on United States citizens, had hired both General Yevgeny Primakov and General Aleksandr V. Karpos, former KGB heads, as consultants and advisors.

(Primakov in addition served as Russian Prime Minister in the late nineties.) (Note: The KGB was the Secret Police in the former Soviet Union)

Peek-A-Boo Soviet Style

Tracking the whereabouts of Primakov and Karpos was difficult but following their funding provides evidence of close coordination between the Departments of Transportation, Homeland Security, the FBI, the CIA, and the TSA. Aware that the credit information gathered by CAPPS II, new drivers license features, and the passage of the National Identity Card Act will comprise a massive invasion of privacy for the average American, Primakov sees internal passports as the ultimate aim of all these programs.

According to the May 15, 2003 Howard Phillips Issues and Strategies Bulletin "General Primakov, who spearheaded arrangements for the implementation of the GRU's global terrorism 'work' using ignorant and brainwashed Islamic radicals, was voluble when asked what all this was supposed to be about. The establishment of the State Security Citizen Threat File was just one of many steps being prepared by the US Government to tighten security in view of the terrorism threat – of which he failed to remind his interviewer that he was one of the chief architects. He volunteered that when the National Identity Card Act (NICA) is passed, the Posse Comitatus Act is overturned, and other items of repressive legislation are approved by Congress, the White House will have acquired greater control over the American people than the Kremlin could exert over the Russian people when Stalin was alive."

Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld

robin  posted on  2005-10-28   22:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: OKCSubmariner (#1)

Hi Patrick. God bless. Sounds like the current America to me.

Let's see:

1. Secret wiretaps
2. Seized bank records with no authority
3. Unconsented physical searches
4. Secret computer tracking
5. Domestic spying
6. Clandestine surveillance
7. No paperwork or oversight
8. Obtaining e-mails after a warrant expired
9. Heavily censor FOIA documents
10.A secret court Ah, the old days
11.The Patriot Act that is the most unpatriotic nightmare legislation ever passed.
12.Secret searches
13. Attacking civil liberties
14. Infinite abuses
15. Nobody or nothing is held accountable
16. Bush and the administration seem obsessed with trampling America's basic liberties under the rubric of national security. (look, there's a terrorist under every rock. Look!)
17. Suspension of Posse Comitatus
18. U.S. military in charge of domestic emergencies(so many emergencies, so little time)
19. Corrupt Congress does nothing
20. Trashes the Constitution



There is only one way to save the
Constitutional Republic and typing
on the internet ain't it.

Uncle Bill  posted on  2005-10-28   22:55:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Uncle Bill (#3)

There is only one way to save the Constitutional Republic and typing on the internet ain't it.

Damn!

Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld

robin  posted on  2005-10-28   22:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Uncle Bill, Fred Mertz, Zipporah, swarthyguy, lodwick, itisalmosttoolate, Sparker, scooter, TommyTheMAdArtist, honway, robin, christine, Neil McIver, Sparker (#3)

Tahnks for posting "THE LIST" Uncle Bill.

Here are two other ones to add to your list in reply #3:

National ID passport that will include more and more biometrics and private data and eventually be like RFIDs and trackable with GPS.

Total Information Awareness Data Base on US Super COmputers to track all transactions, banking, travel,medical,taxes etc. There are Republicrats using Able Danger to promote more Pentagon and USG based Total Info Awarenss programs based on private info not just whst is in the public domain.

Bush and his lieutenants have the spirit of an antichrist that Jesus Christ warned of Himself.

The Historical ANTICHRIST will take lessons from Bush and his minions.

The Mark of the Beast is not far off.

All Praise, Glory and Honor to Jesus Christ, Our Holy Father, and to the Holy Spirit.

God Bless you Uncle Bill.

WIthin in you and others standing for America and her foundations is the spirit of George Washington (related to him), Adams, Franklin, and the other Godly founding fathers.

When Christ soon sets up his reign on earth, America's redeemed will once again uphold and rule by the Christian principles upon which America was ordained by God.

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-10-29   0:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: OKCSubmariner (#0)

Secret computer tracking.

Secret 'computer' tracking - how would that work?

My PC is going to perform physical surveillance and 'track' on me?

C'mon, not if I unplug it ...

_Jim  posted on  2005-10-29   0:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: OKCSubmariner (#5)

God Bless Pat.

I didn't know whether to laugh, cry, or throw something through the TV when President Bush was speaking (referring to Libby) about the necessity and value of honoring the due process rights of citizens while Jose Padilla rots in a cell having no clue what he is being charged with.

It ranks right up there with telling the world that Iraq is now free from the rape rooms and torture rooms of saddam yet refusing to sign legislation to bar personnel from torturing (Iraqi, Afghan, Gitmo) prisoners.

scooter  posted on  2005-10-29   1:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: scooter (#7)

Hey, if you don't like it you should have been born into Barbara's family. Or, at least into one of their closest friends' family.
Bleeaahhhch! What a cursed thought!

Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld

robin  posted on  2005-10-29   1:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: OKCSubmariner (#5)

National ID passport that will include more and more biometrics and private data and eventually be like RFIDs and trackable with GPS.

A really ghoulish system would use your facial image, side and front profile, height, skin color, hair color, scent, choice of clothes to SILENTLY track you.

Such systems would not require implantation of currently non-existant 'tracking' devices (they would consume too much energy) or RFID devices that too have limited range and require 'active' inquiry by a transponder - which is detectable by something as simple as a Radio Shack scanner or a 1N914 or 1N4148 diode, some wire and a DVM (making a sensitive RF detector).

_Jim  posted on  2005-10-29   1:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: aristeides (#1)

PING!

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-10-29   2:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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