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Title: Oath Keepers Receive Tip of National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People
Source: OathKeepers
URL Source: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/12 ... e-against-the-american-people/
Published: Dec 8, 2011
Author: OathKeepers
Post Date: 2011-12-08 17:07:06 by bush_is_a_moonie
Keywords: None
Views: 359
Comments: 17

The below tip was posted on the official Oath Keepers Facebook Page by user “Pat Lowe.” We are in the process of verifying this tip, so it is as of yet unconfirmed, but we wanted you to be aware of it (it certainly would be good news for a change!). We will post and send out updates as we confirm and verify.

I hope you enjoy this great news as I did when I was told. Paul Lowe

OUTSTANDING!! I just left my neighbors house. Devon is with the National Guard for this area. He just got home from a EDRE (emergency deployment readiness exercise) at the armory. He said that during the exercise 3 companies of infantry were polled by questionare about the drill and it’s purpose. One of the questions was, will you as a member of the Nat. Guard use lethal force against the American public if ordered to do so? One of the men stepped forward and refused to take the poll and explained that it was a moral judgement on his part and that he could not do so. He then placed his weapon on the ground and fell in behind the formation. Devon said it was like a waterfall, Every member layed their weapons on the deck and fell in beside the one lone specialist. This included ALL NCO’s, STAFF NCO’s and SENIOR NCO’s. The only people left in front of the original formation was 3 Capt’s. 2 Lt’s and the BN Commander who was so upset he started having chest pains from yelling and screaming about court martials and disbandment of the unit into other units. Devon is a Mstr.Sgt and he went with his troops and told them that he could not be prouder of any of them. He was floating while he was telling me this. Maybe we have more than just hope on our side. SEMPER FI. my thanks for the honor of being here Robert. Paul Lowe

I just heard from Devon. He was TX’d by his Plt LDR and advised that the Specialist Who first layed down his weapon is being held in county jail by the Bn CMDR, awaiting a hearing under the UCMJ. Devon couldn’t get any more info than that. I don’t want to post the mans name until we have more information. I am so upset by this that I am having chest pains. How can they do this to one soldier and not them all. I will let you know how things go. Think I might go lay down for a bit. SEMPER FI. Gary Greene

That is great, sort of, to hear. That the officers wont stand by THEIR oath is troubling. Where is this?

NOTE FROM STEWART RHODES:

Again, this is unconfirmed, and we are working on confirming it. Please keep that in mind. But this is certainly the kind of mass, whole-unit stand-down that may well become necessary, especially in light of the treason of the US Senate, which voted 93-7 to authorize military detention and trial of U.S. citizens -- claiming the power to apply the laws of war to the American people in the same way as they are used on a conquered, enemy population, like Iraq or Afghanistan. While National Guard units can, and have been used for riot control without violating their oath, we suspect that this survey was asking them about whether they would do something far worse than just keep the peace during riots. We will do our best to get to the bottom of this, and provide all details once confirmed.

If accurate, this is reminiscent of the stand-down during Katrina by SSGT Joshua May’s Utah National Guard Unit, where the whole unit let their commander know, in a peremptory refusal, that they would not participate in any gun confiscation:

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#1. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

This is still an unconfirmed report. We are working on confirming this. Until we do, caution is urged. It would be awesome to be true. We will see.

echo5sierra  posted on  2011-12-08   17:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Confirmation would be appreciated.

I read quite a few of the posts at OKs. One of the posts recommended that soldiers lie on the form requesting them to respond as to whether they would use lethal force against Americans or not, and say yes in order to be an infiltrator. I think the proper response would be the one given and every red blooded American should stand in defiance of any punishment for refusing to even address the questionaire.

Those responsible for the questionaire should be tried for treason.

The American public needs to know the position of our military members in order for the military to know that we support them 100% when they support us.

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-08   17:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Again, this is unconfirmed, and we are working on confirming it. Please keep that in mind. But this is certainly the kind of mass, whole-unit stand-down that may well become necessary, especially in light of the treason of the US Senate, which voted 93-7 to authorize military detention and trial of U.S. citizens -- claiming the power to apply the laws of war to the American people in the same way as they are used on a conquered, enemy population, like Iraq or Afghanistan.

If it is confirmed, a lot of websites may have to retract what they said about this:

Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution

Fact or Fiction? www.factcheck.org/2009/02/military-oath/

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-12-08   22:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This is still an unconfirmed report. We are working on confirming this. Until we do, caution is urged. It would be awesome to be true. We will see.

Exactly. If true I would honor the men who did this. However, it is also the kind of thing that would be planted as a PsyOp to gauge reaction or other more unsavory reasons such as using it to discredit patriots who wanted to believe it and jumped on it uncritically, or to create a loss of morale when it turned out to be untrue. I hope it is true, but we need cross verification.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-08   22:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have my doubts. The repeated use of the term chest pains referring to two different men shows poor writing and casts doubt in my mind. Yes I think mass stand down will be necessary. We could see incidences like the protester and tank in Tienanmen Square.

What is a calorie? Calories are the little bastards that get into your wardrobe at night and sew your clothes tighter... MY CLOSET IS INFESTED WITH THE LITTLE SHITS.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-08   22:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks so much for posting this. It reminds me of a dream I had about this scenario in July 16, 2010. It was scary. In it, I saw the U.S. FEMA raiding peoples homes and Russian troops involved. U.S. banks everywhere have been shut down so nobody could get access to their funds. Transportation has been shut down. I am seeing people's valuables and money seized from their homes by FEMA and Russian troops and replaced with Russian money (or something like that). Scene continues where I see people being rounded up as cattle. Some are shot to death in plain view. Others are marched to some holding facility for re-education; others are sent to die elsewhere. As people are rounded up, they are taken to some area where they are screened to see if they are on the list of troublemakers. If on that list, they will be executed. End of dream.

purplerose  posted on  2011-12-09   0:34:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5xKEuwdpXA&feature=youtu.be

purplerose  posted on  2011-12-09   16:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm seeing this pop up on other sources. Is there any word yet?

As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-10   2:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here you go! Read question #46:

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008...s1994-combat-arms-survey/

Date 30-Jul-94 17:51 The following COMBAT ARMS SURVEY was sent to Geoff Metcalf by a U.S. Marine, with a (non-anonymous) note explaining that the survey was given May 10, 1994, at the Twenty-nine Palms (CA) Marine base, to a number of Marines from different units which had participated in either: Operation “Just Cause,” “Desert Storm” or “Restore Hope.” The July 11 New American (“Police State Update”, p. 10), discusses a telephone interview with the marine, who said that he was not aware of similar surveys being administered at other bases and that his impression was that the survey was research for a [Navy] commander’s master’s degree. The marine also reported an article in the base’s weekly newspaper, documenting a March ’94 “high-profile tour” of the Twenty-nine Palms base by a delegation from the Council on Foreign Relations. The following survey questions, except for the last one, were not reprinted in the July 11 New American article. They were forwarded by the magazine to the New Jersey Conservative PAC (NJCPAC, 2 Thornton Lane, Piscataway NJ 08854-5044 ph/fx:908-463-0797), which also reports that preliminary fact-finding at the base indicates that the “surveys came through the chain of command.” The questions are reproduced here with NJCPAC’s permission. NJCPAC asks that anyone who knows of other administrations of this or similar COMBAT ARMS SURVEY(s) pls contact them or Congressmen Bob Dornan (ph:202-225-2965) or Duncan Miller (ph:202-225-5672 fx:202-225-0235).

COMBAT ARMS SURVEY This questionnaire is to gather data concerning the attitudes of combat trained personnel with regards to nontraditional missions. All of your responses are confidential. Write your answers directly on the questionnaire form. In Part II, place an “X” in the space provided for your response. Part I. Demographics

1. What Service are you in?

2. What is your pay grade? (e.g. E-?, O-?)

3. What is your MOS code and description?

4. What is your highest level of education in years?

5. How many months did you serve in Operation Desert Storm/Desert Shield?

6. How many months did you serve in Somalia?

7. What state or country did you primarily reside in during childhood? Part II. Attitudes Do you feel that U.S. combat troops should be used within the United States for any of the following missions?

8. Drug enforcement (___) (___) (___) (___) (___) Strongly Agree agree No opinion Strongly disagree Disagree

9. Disaster relief (e.g. hurricanes, floods, fires, earthquakes) [transcriber's note: questions #9 through #46 all provide the same range of response options as shown in question #8, above. The response options have been omitted from the remaining questions for brevity.]

10. Security at national events (e.g. Olympic Games, Super Bowl)

11. Environmental disaster clean-up

12. Substitute teachers in public schools

13. Community assistance programs (e.g. landscaping, environmental clean-up, road repair, animal control)

14. Federal and State prison guards

15. National emergency police force

16. Advisors to S.W.A.T units, the FBI, or the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (B.A.T.F.)

17. Border patrol (e.g. prevention of illegal aliens into U.S. territory.) Do you feel that U.S. combat troops under U.S. command should be used in other countries for any of the following United Nations missions?

18. Drug enforcement

19. Disaster relief (hurricanes, floods, fires, earthquakes)

20. Environmental disaster clean-up

21. Peace keeping

22. Nation building/reconstruct civil government, develop public school system, develop or improve public transportation system, etc.)

23. Humanitarian relief (e.g. food and medical supplies, temporary housing, and clothing) Do you feel that U.S. combat troops should be used in other countries, under command of non-U.S. officers appointed by the United Nations for any of the following missions?

24. Drug enforcement

25. Disaster relief (e.g. hurricanes, floods, fires, earthquakes)

26. Environmental disaster clean-up

27. Peace keeping

28. Nation building (Reconstruct civil government, develop public school system, develop or improve public transportation system, etc.

29. Humanitarian relief (e.g. food and medical supplies, temporary housing, and clothing)

30. Police Action (e.g. Korea, Vietnam, but serving under non-U.S. officers) Consider the following statements:

31. The U.S. runs a field training exercise. U.N. combat troops should be allowed to serve in U.S. combat units during these exercises under U.S. command and control.

32. The United Nations runs a field training exercise. U.S. combat troops under U.S. command and control should serve in U.N. combat units during these exercises.

33. The United Nations runs a field training exercise. U.S. combat troops should serve under U.N. command and control during these exercises.

34. U.S. combat troops should participate in U.N. missions as long as the U.S. has full command and control.

35. U.S. combat troops should participate in U.N. missions under United Nations command and control.

36. U.S. combat troops should be commanded by U.N. officers and noncommissioned officers (NCOs) at battalion and company levels while performing U.N. missions.

37. It would make no difference to me to have U.N. soldiers as members of my team. (e.g. fire team, squad, platoon)

38. It would make no difference to me to take orders from a U.N. company commander.

39. I feel the President of the United States has the authority to pass his responsibilities as Commander-in-Chief to the U.N. Secretary General.

40. I feel there is no conflict between my oath of office and serving as a U.N. soldier.

41. I feel my unit’s combat effectiveness would not be affected by performing humanitarian missions for the United Nations.

42. I feel a designated unit of U.S. combat soldiers should be permanently assigned to the command and control of the United Nations.

43. I would be willing to volunteer for assignment to a U.S. combat unit under a U.N. commander.

44. I would like U.N. member countries, including the U.S., to give the U.N. all the soldiers necessary to maintain world peace.

45. I would swear to the following code: “I am a United Nations fighting person. I serve in the forces which maintain world peace and every nation’s way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.”

46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. A thirty (30) day amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over to the local authorities. At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to turn over their firearms. Consider the following statement: I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government.

purplerose  posted on  2011-12-10   15:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

this is from 1994 ...

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-10   16:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

While that is a true event which has been verified it is separate from this one. While I would not in the least be surprised that it is a valid report it is not, at this time, a confirmed report.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-10   16:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Patriot Act was not written after 9-11. According to Representative Ron Paul, it was written many many years ago.

The Combat Survey was written in 1994. And just because it was done in '94 does not mean the questions asked do not apply to us today.

Think for a minute. Why would John McCain and Joe Leiberman endorse the Enemy Belligerent Act (which was enacted in 2010)? Because they desire to apply this very Act on all Americans.

This Belligerent Act ties in and goes way back to when President Franklin De Lano Roosevelt endorsed the Emergency War Powers Act.

And since the Belligerent Act now applies to all Americans it only makes sense that the military can and will detain all Americans due to this Act and also due to Question #46 of that Combat Survey.

All of these Acts mentioned should have been repealed but have not. Instead, they have been layered in stages throughout time. We are just now waking up from our slumber!

Read posts #7 and #9 on this thread here: freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=141134

purplerose  posted on  2011-12-11   20:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Patriot Act was not written after 9-11. According to Representative Ron Paul, it was written many many years ago.

The Combat Survey was written in 1994. And just because it was done in '94 does not mean the questions asked do not apply to us today.

Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995 sponsored by Sen. Biden.

As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-11   20:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are correct, farmfriend. It was Joseph Biden who authored the Patriot Act.

purplerose  posted on  2011-12-11   20:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It was Joseph Biden who authored the Patriot Act.

I'll accept "sponsor" but author is asking alot of Biden. (hahaha)

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-12   12:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My point was that the current claim needs to be verified. I'd really appreciate knowing that so many of our military folks rejected the form.

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-12   12:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

44. I would like U.N. member countries, including the U.S., to give the U.N. all the soldiers necessary to maintain world peace.

45. I would swear to the following code: “I am a United Nations fighting person. I serve in the forces which maintain world peace and every nation’s way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.”

46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. A thirty (30) day amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over to the local authorities. At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to turn over their firearms. Consider the following statement: I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government.

This is where we swerve into lunacy and treason.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-12-12   12:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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