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Title: Alleged victim says cries for help from Sandusky basement went unheeded
Source: msnbc.com
URL Source: http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2 ... andusky-basement-went-unheeded
Published: Dec 8, 2011
Author: M. Alex Johnson
Post Date: 2011-12-08 20:49:56 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
Keywords: None
Views: 3046
Comments: 36

One of the new alleged victims in the sexual harassment case against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky told a grand jury that Sandusky's wife ignored his screams for help while Sandusky raped him in the basement of their home.

Sandusky rearrested in Pennsylvania
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The young man, identified in the new complaint as Victim No. 9, who is now 18 years old, said in his testimony that Sandusky attempted to rape him at least 16 times, sometimes successfully.

"I took it at first he was just a nice guy, like he went to church every weekend, his kids come over every once in a while and stuff," the young man testified. "And after a while, like, he got used to me and stuff and started getting further and further wanting — to touch feely."

The presentment says the contacts eventually "escalated to sexual assaults."

The testimony is revealed in a new grand jury presentment that the Pennsylvania attorney's general office released after Sandusky was arrested Wednesday on new charges of sexual abuse of two more young men.

The five-page presentment gives numerous graphic details of the alleged assaults on Victims 9 and 10, including allegations that Sandusky forced Victim No. 10 to perform oral sex on him.

New grand jury presentment ( http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNB..._Sandusky-Presentment.pdf — includes graphic details)

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#4. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Original (#0)

The young man, identified in the new complaint as Victim No. 9, who is now 18 years old, said in his testimony that Sandusky attempted to rape him at least 16 times, sometimes successfully.

And yet the boy went back. It's not that I don't believe him but it does leave me with questions.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-08   21:17:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: farmfriend (#4)

The young man, identified in the new complaint as Victim No. 9, who is now 18 years old, said in his testimony that Sandusky attempted to rape him at least 16 times, sometimes successfully.

And yet the boy went back. It's not that I don't believe him but it does leave me with questions.

Sadly, from my reading, that appears not uncommon I guess it is some sort of variation on "The Stockholm Sydrome" where the victim begins to identify with the abuser or think that somehow they are at fault because of the abuser's actions.

Hard to say. I'd have to read the deposition.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-08   21:20:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#5)

The young man, identified in the new complaint as Victim No. 9, who is now 18 years old, said in his testimony that Sandusky attempted to rape him at least 16 times, sometimes successfully.

And yet the boy went back. It's not that I don't believe him but it does leave me with questions.

Sadly, from my reading, that appears not uncommon I guess it is some sort of variation on "The Stockholm Sydrome" where the victim begins to identify with the abuser or think that somehow they are at fault because of the abuser's actions.

Hard to say. I'd have to read the deposition.

farmfriend, i picked up on the same things. i didn't understand it either. first i wondered at the boys' parents that they'd let their kids spend the night at an adult man's house. how clueless - or CAREless can a parent get.

O_I, I was HOPING you could put a name on the reason a kid would go BACK to a situation like that...it's quite mind-boggling.

I read the deposition...I didn't get any clues from it. I'm sure the defense will play it up, though. And of course, it's always possible these last two are not telling the truth, I suppose.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-12-08   21:55:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Original_Intent (#11)

..I didn't get any clues from it

I didn't either. I have no doubt he is telling the truth but I have questions. I can see mom glad that this well known authority figure was helping her kid. No mother wants to believe that someone like this has evil intent. And the kid was getting gifts etc. There is also the idea that the body reacts in ways we may not want. Why does the abused wife go back? It happens. But I still am curious.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-08   22:02:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: farmfriend (#13)

I can see mom glad that this well known authority figure was helping her kid. No mother wants to believe that someone like this has evil intent.

when it came to my kids i was paranoid to the utmost...my youngest used to tell us how we "ruined her life" because we wouldn't let her sleep over ANYWHERE....too bad...at least we knew she wasn't being assaulted.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-12-08   22:33:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#18)

when it came to my kids i was paranoid to the utmost...my youngest used to tell us how we "ruined her life" because we wouldn't let her sleep over ANYWHERE....too bad...at least we knew she wasn't being assaulted.

I was similar but took a different direction. When the boys were learning their body parts I always said and these are your private parts and nobody touches your privates. And I also warned them that anyone wanting to wrongly would lie to them and not to believe them. Someone touches you and you don't like it YOU TELL! There is also a couple of really well done videos through the Boy Scouts, one directed at preteens and one for teens called A Time To Tell.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-08   22:41:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: farmfriend (#20)

problem is, if someone had touched one of my little girls ONE TIME, i'm afraid i would have gone into kill mode.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-12-08   22:45:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#23)

problem is, if someone had touched one of my little girls ONE TIME, i'm afraid i would have gone into kill mode.

yeah I hear that. I would have reacted the same with my boys. Hell hath no fury like a mamma bear.

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-08   22:52:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: farmfriend, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#24) (Edited)

problem is, if someone had touched one of my little girls ONE TIME, i'm afraid i would have gone into kill mode.

yeah I hear that. I would have reacted the same with my boys. Hell hath no fury like a mamma bear.

NEVER EVER get between a Mama Bear and her cubs - it is a great way to become hamburger.

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