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Title: CIA AGENT VALERIE PLAME THREATENED - "Agents overseas could be arrested or even killed
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Drudge Report
URL Source: http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm
Published: Oct 28, 2005
Author: Matt Drudge
Post Date: 2005-10-28 23:21:08 by Uncle Bill
Keywords: THREATENED, overseas, arrested
Views: 84
Comments: 26
JOE WILSON, HUSBAND OF THE UNMASKED CIA AGENT VALERIE PLAME, SAYS THERE HAVE BEEN THREATS AGAINST HER – “60 MINUTES” SUNDAY Drudge Report Former CIA Colleagues say the Unmasking of Plame Could Cause Harm to Other Agents Joe Wilson, whose wife’s unmasking as a CIA agent is at the center of the special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s investigation, said today that that his wife, Valerie Plame, has been threatened. Wilson talks to Ed Bradley in his first interview since Fitzgerald announced the indictment of I. Lewis Libby. It will be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday Oct. 30 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. “There have been specific threats [against Plame]. Beyond that I just can’t go,” Wilson tells Bradley. Wilson says he and his wife have discussed security for her with “several agencies.” Former CIA colleagues say that by revealing her identity, harm could be caused to the CIA’s agents and operations. “If a CIA agent is exposed, then everyone coming in contact with that agent is exposed,” says Jim Marcinkowski, a former CIA agent who trained with Plame at the top-secret Virginia facility known as “the Farm.” “There is a possibility that there were other agents that would use that same kind of a cover. So they may have been using Brewster Jennings just like her,” said Marcinkowski, referring to the fictional firm the CIA set up as her cover that also came out when journalists, including Robert Novak, disclosed it. Marcinkowski also points out, “[Plame] is the wife of an ambassador, for example. Now, since this happened…they’ll know there’s a possibility that the wife of a U.S. ambassador is a CIA agent.” Another friend, once a covert CIA operative, says people who say Plame wasn’t in a sensitive position need to understand how intricate a cover story is, regardless of what an agent is working on. “Cover is…for a clandestine officer, can be different things at different times. We change cover. We modify cover based on how we need it. But that cover is linked together,” she tells Bradley. “If you start to unravel one part of that, you can unravel the whole thing.” Rep. Rush Holt (D.-NJ), a former intelligence analyst and member of the House Intelligence Committee, agrees. “I think any time the identity of a covert agent is released, there is some damage -- and it’s serious.” Holt says it’s possible agents overseas could be arrested or even killed, but “if there were, and I’d been briefed on it, I couldn’t talk about it,” he tells Bradley. He did say he has been assured the CIA was mitigating the effects of the leak. “They have taken the usual procedures to protect the damage from spreading.” Those procedures began the moment Valerie Plame learned her cover was blown. Upon finding out about the leak of her name, “she felt like she'd been hit in the stomach. It took her breath away,” said Wilson. Then she methodically went to work, he says, “making lists of what she had to do to ensure that her assets, her projects, her programs and her operations were protected.” Wilson tells Bradley, contrary to reports that many knew Plame was in the CIA, that only he and three other people knew. “Well, very few people outside the intelligence community [knew she was CIA]. Her parents and her brother, essentially,” says Wilson. Developing... NEWSROOM SHOCK: NEW YORK TIMES SUICIDE; LONGTIME REPORTER/EDITOR JUMPS TO HIS DEATH AT TIMES SQUARE Government-linked 'suicide' probed - death of CIA biochemist Blair Won't Resign Over Adviser's Suicide Ex- U.S. Attorney Dead in Apparent Suicide (Waco US Attorney) LSU West Nile Researcher Dies In Pickup Crash (Another Dead Bio-Medical Expert Utility Executive Dead in Apparent Suicide Former U.S. Attorney found dead State Dept. Worker Found Dead Outside Agency Dead Woman Who Accused Bush of Rape James Hatfield, author of Fortunate Son, an unauthorised biography of George W. Bush, which detailed Bush's cocaine use and cover-up of a cocaine arrest, was found dead on 18 July 2001 in a seedy Arkansas motel room, another suicide victim. His is a long, painful story. The 43-year-old writer, who left behind a wife and baby daughter, left no notes for his family and friends that listed alcohol, financial problems and Fortunate Son as reasons for killing himself, according to police. Three years before his death, his original publisher, St. Martin's Press, pulped its entire run of Fortunate Son just as it shot to The New York Times bestsellers list after they discovered the author's own drug past. A New York punk-rock publisher, Soft Skull Press, later reprinted it and rushed it out in time for the 2000 presidential elections. The Bush camp, of course, was on the case. In fact, Bush's chief strategist, Karl Rove - who previously worked for Richard Nixon, the godfather of dirty tricks - had contacted Hatfield urging to meet him to see if he was 'on the right track'. He also received death threats from one of the Bush allies who had confirmed Bush's cocaine arrest allegations. The threats named Hatfield's wife and daughter and said, "If you value their lives, you'd better back off." In early 2001, Hatfield accidentally found out his computer was bugged when he took it to be repaired. Could this mean that Bush strategists dug Hatfield's criminal record to discredit him and kill off his book? After Hatfield's death made the headlines, the official story force-fed to the corporate media, as surreal as it seemed, was that Hatfield was charged on 17 July with credit-card fraud. Police had confiscated his computer and given him 24 hours to turn himself in, but instead he checked into a motel, overdosed on prescription drugs and died. But why would a bestselling author try to commit credit-card fraud using a computer he believed was bugged? He was also afraid of breaking the terms of his parole, fearing that if he did, that he would be sent back to Texas to prison, where, he was convinced, he would be killed. In the police report, there's no mention of anything found in the computer that was confiscated, though it was the first item mentioned in the application for a search warrant. Arkancide or Texacide. Fair and balanced. You decide.
Fri Oct 28 2005 20:56:07 ET
Note: Did he know about Plamegate? 
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#1. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
This certainly opens up others--completely innocent--to kidnapping, brutalization, torture, and killing. The idea that a US Ambassador's wife work (s)(ed) for the CIA opens the door for the wives or husbands of any Ambassador being on the receiving end of this JUST BECAUSE of the possibility they could be a Plame-Wilson sort of marriage/arrangement.
Good point. Wolf Blitzer explained Valerie Plame's status this morning with Bob Barr. Barr explained that it costs the govt a lot of money to create a non-official covert agent. Non-official means she did not have a "day" job at an embassy, that would be an official covert agent. Rather, she appeared to be working in the private arena so she was a non-official covert agent. No one explained that as well for me before. Sorry if I'm telling you something you already knew.
Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld
I heard that many agants have already got killed over this outing shortly after it occured.
God is always good! I appreciate all the added statements.........they either confirm what I already knew or suspected; but there are lots of other readers who may not have known. This thing about her status has really been tossed around all over the place. Fitzgerald mantains she was covered under that leak law. And frankly, I rather suspect that is one lawyer who has checked it out before opening his mouth....one of the whos, whats, whens, wheres, why, etc. Sure beats the hell outta of listening to *grin* and his friends! LOL..........
It isn't the sort of rumor that will ever be confirmed. But, it shouldn't be too difficult to imagine that some harm was done. How would you like to have been on her team? Out there with no cover, no backup, just suddenly out in the open, without warning.
Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld
Italy Judge Orders Arrest of 13 CIA Agents So, were these resident CIA agents in Italy who were also Italians?
Interesting. Another pointing towards affirmation of how 'we' deem to deal with people to extract information, truthfully or not, also related to torture. Keepin our hands clean, 'n all that shit!
Karl Rove worked for Tricky Dick? What was he ten years old? In any case Fitzgerald probably lost his case yesterday when he all but tried and convicted Libby during his press conference.
Now there's a case that went down the memory hole. A flurry of reporting at the end of June, then nothing.
a great list of links Uncle Bill. I don't know where I read it, but I read that some of the undercover agents that worked under Plame were killed as a result of this leak. A lot of people get killed in this struggle, that's for sure.
He was born in 1950, do the math.
"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs
He was born in 1950, do the math. He was old enough to vote for him - certainly in the second term; whether or not they lowered the voting age to 18 from 21 in 1970. This turn of events came about because there was an outcry during the Vietnam War - well even during WWII, that young men died in battle before they were old enough to vote. So, rather than raise the age of the draft, they lowered the age to vote. Despite the fact that there are some young men who are still growing in height and physical maturity until they are 23 or so. But hey, who cares? There are uniforms that fit all sizes. Of course none of the chickenhawks ever wore a uniform. You won't find a picture of Karl in one, unless one of his special friends insists he wear one now and then.
Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld
This is why the whole rotten affair is TREASON AND ESPIONAGE. And why it can, and will, be traced back to whoever it was who benefitted form this. Not so difficult to figure out. And it sure as hell wasn't done simply to "bitch slap" Joe Wislon. Whe Fitz is finished the whole neocon cabal will be done.
"It is common to assume that human progress affects everyone – that even the dullest man, in these bright days, knows more than any man of, say, the Eighteenth Century, and is far more civilized. This assumption is quite erroneous...The great masses of men, even in this inspired republic, are precisely where the mob was at the dawn of history. They are ignorant, they are dishonest, they are cowardly, they are ignoble. They know little if anything that is worth knowing, and there is not the slightest sign of a natural desire among them to increase their knowledge." H.L. Mencken
We can hope and pray.
If you buy rope in bulk, is there much of a discount? ;)
"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." - Albert Einstein
I think the WH has been trying to promote a very casual idea of what Mrs. Wilson may have been involved with. She herself may not have been important as a spy in terms of actively doing things, but she might have served as a conduit for others to pass on info or material. That can be the most important part of spying - not necessarily actively going after info or breaking into buildings or whatever, but just being there to observe, pass on info, meet people, etc. In publicly blowing her cover, the WH has demonstrated not only a total disregard for Mrs. Wilson personally but also a callous disregard & lack of understanding of how the spy business actually works. This may endanger other spies' covers and may disrupt who knows who kind of information flow. I would think that having a spy undercover as the wife of a diplomat/ambassador would put Mrs. Wilson in a position to meet a lot of people and gain a lot of info. Why has nothing happened to Novak for releasing this information? There's no doubt about him, and he should be in prison.
Rove was in his teens and early twenties and I think was mainly involved in organizing dirty tricks on college campuses. the kind of thing I'm sure you'd endorse.
I agree with your post and wonder especially why Novak appears completely unscathed by it all. Isn't what he did reprehensible, all technical mumbo jumbo aside?
Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld
He is probably one of the CIA plants in the media. There are many and they are generally "untouchable". These vermin spin doctors are everywhere....
"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." - Albert Einstein
So wouldn't he be attacking one of this own? I would think that would be doubly bad. What gets me is that there has been NO comments about Novak releasing this info. It's so OBVIOUS he should be charged. Or are journalists allowed to release the identity of CIA agents as long as a government official gives them the info? The only liability is on the part of the govt official?
True, if she was out of line they would usually just put a hit of LSD in her food or drink to give a little subtle reminder of who she works for ;) I'm just surprised the "controlled media would even speak of this problem unless she was supposed to be outed.
"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." - Albert Einstein
you know Uncle Bill, practically none of those links come up. The FR links are all deleted. The LP links come up very very slow so that it times out and never comes up, I think LP crimped our ability to look at these articles. A lot of people are using the strategy of downloading the info to their hard drives. One fellow said he was turning important articles into pdf files.
I had no problem getting all of them.
Another Mogambo Day
thanks for telling me, but that is very strange because none of them come up for me. I have a cable connection.
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#3. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#4. To: robin (#2)
#5. To: RickyJ (#3)
#6. To: rowdee (#1)
#7. To: Uncle Bill (#6)
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#11. To: Uncle Bill (#6)
Italy Judge Orders Arrest of 13 CIA Agents
I've already said too much.
#12. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
#13. To: willyone (#10)
Karl Rove worked for Tricky Dick? What was he ten years old?
#14. To: Dakmar, willyone (#13)
Karl Rove worked for Tricky Dick? What was he ten years old?
#15. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
Another friend, once a covert CIA operative, says people who say Plame wasn’t in a sensitive position need to understand how intricate a cover story is, regardless of what an agent is working on. “Cover is…for a clandestine officer, can be different things at different times. We change cover. We modify cover based on how we need it. But that cover is linked together,” she tells Bradley. “If you start to unravel one part of that, you can unravel the whole thing.”
#16. To: BTP Holdings (#15)
When Fitz is finished the whole neocon cabal will be done.
#17. To: BTP Holdings (#15)
the whole neocon cabal
#18. To: robin (#2)
#19. To: willyone (#10)
#20. To: mehitable (#18)
Why has nothing happened to Novak for releasing this information? There's no doubt about him, and he should be in prison.
#21. To: mehitable (#18)
Why has nothing happened to Novak for releasing this information? There's no doubt about him, and he should be in prison.
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