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Title: If Libby's Indicted, Cheney Will Feel the Heat - Once Scooter sings, it's a whole new Plame Affair
Source: The Village Voice
URL Source: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0544,mondocheney,69507,2.html
Published: Oct 29, 2005
Author: James Ridgeway
Post Date: 2005-10-29 00:28:30 by robin
Ping List: *Plamegate*     Subscribe to *Plamegate*
Keywords: Indicted,, Libbys, Scooter
Views: 293
Comments: 71

WASHINGTON, D.C. If, as the New York Times reports, Dick Cheney's chief of staff I. Lewis Libby is to be indicted today in the Plame Affair, then the person in the Bush administration most on the hot seat is actually Vice President Dick Cheney.

The Times today says that special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald may press charges that Scooter Libby lied to the grand jury investigating the leaking of the name of Valerie Plame, a CIA agent whose husband, Joe Wilson, was a vocal critic of the White House's rationale for the war in Iraq. The paper says Fitzgerald will likely ask to have the grand jury's term extended:

Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, is expected to be indicted today for making false statements to the grand jury in the C.I.A. leak case, lawyers in the case said Thursday.
Karl Rove, President Bush's senior adviser and deputy chief of staff, will not be charged today, but will remain under investigation, people briefed officially about the case said.33;

It remains unclear what role, if any, Cheney played in revealing Plame's identity to reporters. But having his chief of staff under indictment would deal a serious blow to his office. Among other risks is that Fitzgerald could get Libby to start providing a fuller picture of what happened, which might not be in Cheney's best interests.

Thursday in the National Journal, Murray Waas gave a rundown of the kind of thing Cheney could well prefer to hide:

"Vice President Cheney and his chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, overruling advice from some White House political staffers and lawyers, decided to withhold crucial documents from the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2004 when the panel was investigating the use of pre-war intelligence that erroneously concluded Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, according to Bush administration and congressional sources."

If Cheney were forced to resign, speculation has been that Bush might name Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to the job. Other names flying around include that of Rudy Giuliani.

The last time a vice president had to be replaced was during Watergate, in 1973, when Richard Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew, had to go. At the time, Agnew was trying to get around a grand jury inquiry into kick-backs, bribery, and tax evasion by insisting only the Congress could remove him.

Agnew ultimately resigned as part of a plea bargain. Gerald Ford was named to replace him, and after Nixon resigned, Ford became president and picked Nelson Rockefeller as his second. This was the first use of the 25th Amendment. Subscribe to *Plamegate*

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#21. To: Esso (#18)

Jizzbreath_Jim

LMAO!

avian virus  posted on  2005-10-29   9:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Who are "we" guys?

We guys are commies.

Jizzbreath defines a communist as being a person who wouldn't enjoy fluffing Bush in the shower.

avian virus  posted on  2005-10-29   9:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: avian virus (#22)

Is traffic generally this light in the mornings?

Or are all your compadres too scared to come out and try and make intelligent arguments in rebuttle to my posts this morning?

_Jim  posted on  2005-10-29   9:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: _Jim (#19)

and eventually be 'housebroken'

You aren't. You seem to enjoy coming in here and crapping the place up.

Soda Pop  posted on  2005-10-29   9:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: avian virus (#22)

Okay - okay - I'll give you that 'they' may be busy doing yardwork and 'garage saling' this morning; I've got to make a pot of coffee and get busy myself.

Good bye for now, Gracy.

_Jim  posted on  2005-10-29   9:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Flintlock (#25)

Flint, PM me when you're civil again and I'll take you off Bozo ...

_Jim  posted on  2005-10-29   9:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: _Jim (#15)

Your #15 doesn't address my #8. Adult ADD?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-10-29   9:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: _Jim (#23)

Or are all your compadres too scared to come out and try and make intelligent arguments in rebuttle to my posts this morning?

We tried to be an adult with you last night and all you did was spin and tap dance.

You made as ass out of yourself and we lost all respect for you.

Now we are just trashing you for fun.

avian virus  posted on  2005-10-29   9:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: _Jim (#26)

Flint, PM me when you're civil again and I'll take you off Bozo ...

I think he likes being on your bozo filter.

avian virus  posted on  2005-10-29   9:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: avian virus, Jizzbreath_Jim (#22)

Jizzbreath defines a communist as being a person who wouldn't enjoy fluffing Bush in the shower.

Jizzbreath_Jim would blow a goat, beg for more and show the photos to this mother, if his handlers told him to.

Let's look at some of his past works:

Jizzbreath_Jim defended the ATF's murderous actions at Waco while Clinton was president.

Jizzbreath_Jim defended the governments version of events at OK city

Jizzbreath_Jim, now defends the governments version of 9/11 and promotes our invasion and illegal war in Iraq.


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-10-29   9:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Flintlock (#30)

Yeah, but what I'm wondering is, how are you going to make it through the weekend knowing that you're on his bozo list?

Oh, the humanity! We might have to start a 'Free Flintlock' fund.

There's kind of a freedom in being completly screwed.

Esso  posted on  2005-10-29   9:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Esso, _Jim stole Trace s gerbils (#31)

how are you going to make it through the weekend knowing that you're on his bozo list?

As usual, Jizzbreath_Jim is full of it.

I'm not on his bozo I can see all his posts (if you can call them posts)


Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-10-29   9:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: _Jim (#11)

...behold an assclown pussy which can't spell English words and clings to the sinking ship that is the Bush mal-Administration.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-10-29   12:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Flintlock, all (#30)

#30. To: avian virus, Jizzbreath_Jim (#22)

Jizzbreath defines a communist as being a person who wouldn't enjoy fluffing Bush in the shower.

Jizzbreath_Jim would blow a goat, beg for more and show the photos to this mother, if his handlers told him to.

Let's look at some of his past works:

Jizzbreath_Jim defended the ATF's murderous actions at Waco while Clinton was president.

Jizzbreath_Jim defended the governments version of events at OK city

Jizzbreath_Jim, now defends the governments version of 9/11 and promotes our invasion and illegal war in Iraq.

How about this: While you're on his bozo filter we all quote you in full in our replies so he has to read them anyways?

PnbC  posted on  2005-10-29   13:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: robin (#0)

Nahh, Trial drags on, lowlevel background, Bush pardons Libby and if need be, Cheney.

Of course, Dickie's the one who instigated this; the war has made him gazillions.

The Haliban don't let their profits slip by easily.

"I want the American people to know that our dreams are gone, our work was in vain. There will be no future for our children and our grandchildren in the new Iraq. The future is for the clerics. This is not the democracy we dreamed of. "--Dr. Raja Kuzai

swarthyguy  posted on  2005-10-29   15:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: robin (#2)

You deserve a nice, big ATTA GIRL!!!

rowdee  posted on  2005-10-29   18:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FormerLurker (#6)

30 years is long time to be holding hands with Bubba.

ROTF........nah! I won't say a word....... :) Scooter and Bubba!

ROTF! Bitch and Bitchor.

rowdee  posted on  2005-10-29   19:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Flintlock, _Jim (#30)

_Jim, now defends the governments version of 9/11 and promotes our invasion and illegal war in Iraq.

Gee, I hope Jim is posting from Iraq then..

Lady X  posted on  2005-10-29   19:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: avian virus (#28)

When Libby sings 222 indictments will come down. Bush and Cheney will be frog marched out of the White House. Everyone except the butlers will be in jail. All of them will be raped. In the new administration Raimondo will be press secretary. Wayne Madsen will be Secretary of State. Tom Flocco will be Vice President. President will be . . . Michael Moore. I can't wait.

bondhue  posted on  2005-10-29   19:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: bondhue (#39)

When Libby sings 222 indictments will come down. Bush and Cheney will be frog marched out of the White House. Everyone except the butlers will be in jail. All of them will be raped. In the new administration Raimondo will be press secretary. Wayne Madsen will be Secretary of State. Tom Flocco will be Vice President. President will be . . . Michael Moore. I can't wait.

I never said anything of the sort.

And you know that.

If you want to prove me wrong, post a link. But do us all a favor and don't start spinning and jumping the subject like a nine year old kid this evening.

The adults are talking here. Come back when you grow up.

avian virus  posted on  2005-10-29   19:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Lady X (#38)

Gee, I hope Jim is posting from Iraq then..

Jim is a Republican. Republicans don't do wars, Republicans send your kid to fight wars while they sit home and hammer on the keyboard. It's the natural order of things. Just as Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, Perle, Wolfowitz, Cheney and the rest of the crew. Why should they fight when they can make chumps like us do it.

avian virus  posted on  2005-10-29   19:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: avian virus (#41)

The operative phrase being 'when they can make chumps like us do it'... :-(

Lady X  posted on  2005-10-29   19:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: avian virus (#40)

Sorry, just trying to get into the flow of things here. I originally came to read the market posts, but I had to wade through a dozen articles by Madsen, Flocco, Raimondo, and several other well-connected, sober folks. I trying to reeducate myself. Me and John Candy.

bondhue  posted on  2005-10-29   19:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: bondhue (#43)

Sorry, just trying to get into the flow of things here. I originally came to read the market posts, but I had to wade through a dozen articles by Madsen, Flocco, Raimondo, and several other well-connected, sober folks. I trying to reeducate myself. Me and John Candy.

You are a bullshitter and a would be troll. You don't rise to the level of a true troll.

avian virus  posted on  2005-10-29   19:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: avian virus (#44)

I take that as a high compliment.

bondhue  posted on  2005-10-29   19:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

Any grown man who allows himself to be called scooter,

Phil Rizzuto? :D

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-10-29   20:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: bondhue (#45)

I take that as a high compliment.

You're busted, so how else are you gonna save face?

avian virus  posted on  2005-10-29   20:06:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: bondhue (#39)

When Libby sings 222 indictments will come down. Bush and Cheney will be frog marched out of the White House. Everyone except the butlers will be in jail. All of them will be raped. In the new administration Raimondo will be press secretary. Wayne Madsen will be Secretary of State. Tom Flocco will be Vice President. President will be . . . Michael Moore. I can't wait.

LOL!

_Jim  posted on  2005-10-29   20:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: _Jim (#11)

Behold the IDIOT owner of FreeRepublic trying to look like "any old poster" both here and at his own site WITH TWO SCREEN NAMES.

Elapidae, Micrurus fulvius

Coral Snake  posted on  2005-10-29   20:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: bondhue (#43)

Sorry, just trying to get into the flow of things here. I originally came to read the market posts, but I had to wade through a dozen articles by Madsen, Flocco, Raimondo, and several other well-connected, sober folks. I trying to reeducate myself.

You still haven't substantiated your pet theory that France was behind the Niger uranium forgeries. Maybe you should save yourself a lot of grief and stick to FreeRepublic and FoxNews.

"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2005-10-29   20:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Coral Snake (#49)

LOL!

(This shouted by you from the rooftops after how many gin and tonics?)

_Jim  posted on  2005-10-29   20:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Dakmar (#50)

I gave that up for the latest from Madsen, Flocco, Raimondo. I have been reeducated, comrade. Shall I give you a Marxist/Leninist interpretation of breathing?

bondhue  posted on  2005-10-29   21:42:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: bondhue (#52)

Shall I give you a Marxist/Leninist interpretation of breathing?

Please do, bondhue, sounds like a good takeoff point. Waiting...

"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2005-10-29   21:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Dakmar (#53)

Here's the link for you.

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml? xml=/news/2004/09/19/wniger19.xml

bondhue  posted on  2005-10-29   21:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: bondhue (#54)

Martino? That's a WOP name, what are you, on dope?

"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2005-10-29   22:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Dakmar (#55)

Here's another link for you, comrade, as if we could stand to read another piece of anti-revolutionary, reactionary drivel.

http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php? comments_id=3479

bondhue  posted on  2005-10-29   22:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: bondhue (#56)

There is no limit to the topics appearing on The American Thinker. National security in all its dimensions, strategic, economic, diplomatic, and military is emphasized. The right to exist, and the survival of the State of Israel are of great importance to us. Business, science, technology, medicine, management, and economics in their practical and ethical dimensions are also emphasized, as is the state of American culture.

The American Thinker? Now there's a real un-biased source, LOL.

"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2005-10-29   22:18:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Dakmar (#57)

Yes, and the London Telegraph, which broke the story and is the first link I supplied, is a fascist run paper with that awful Ambrose-Evans Pritchard on its dole. /irony

bondhue  posted on  2005-10-29   22:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: bondhue (#58)

I don't live in your Ivory Tower world, so you'll surely excuse me if I tell you to go fuck yourself...

"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2005-10-29   22:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: bondhue (#58)

Ambrose-Evans Pritchard on its dole

Apparently he was only worthy of note when he was dishing the dirt on Clinton?

rowdee  posted on  2005-10-29   22:33:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Dakmar (#59)

I have been excusing you all along.

bondhue  posted on  2005-10-29   22:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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