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Title: If Libby's Indicted, Cheney Will Feel the Heat - Once Scooter sings, it's a whole new Plame Affair
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The Village Voice
URL Source: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0544,mondocheney,69507,2.html
Published: Oct 29, 2005
Author: James Ridgeway
Post Date: 2005-10-29 00:28:30 by robin
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Keywords: Indicted,, Libbys, Scooter
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Comments: 71
WASHINGTON, D.C. If, as the New York Times reports, Dick Cheney's chief of staff I. Lewis Libby is to be indicted today in the Plame Affair, then the person in the Bush administration most on the hot seat is actually Vice President Dick Cheney. The Times today says that special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald may press charges that Scooter Libby lied to the grand jury investigating the leaking of the name of Valerie Plame, a CIA agent whose husband, Joe Wilson, was a vocal critic of the White House's rationale for the war in Iraq. The paper says Fitzgerald will likely ask to have the grand jury's term extended: It remains unclear what role, if any, Cheney played in revealing Plame's identity to reporters. But having his chief of staff under indictment would deal a serious blow to his office. Among other risks is that Fitzgerald could get Libby to start providing a fuller picture of what happened, which might not be in Cheney's best interests. Thursday in the National Journal, Murray Waas gave a rundown of the kind of thing Cheney could well prefer to hide: If Cheney were forced to resign, speculation has been that Bush might name Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to the job. Other names flying around include that of Rudy Giuliani. The last time a vice president had to be replaced was during Watergate, in 1973, when Richard Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew, had to go. At the time, Agnew was trying to get around a grand jury inquiry into kick-backs, bribery, and tax evasion by insisting only the Congress could remove him. Agnew ultimately resigned as part of a plea bargain. Gerald Ford was named to replace him, and after Nixon resigned, Ford became president and picked Nelson Rockefeller as his second. This was the first use of the 25th Amendment.
Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, is expected to be indicted today for making false statements to the grand jury in the C.I.A. leak case, lawyers in the case said Thursday.
Karl Rove, President Bush's senior adviser and deputy chief of staff, will not be charged today, but will remain under investigation, people briefed officially about the case said.33;
"Vice President Cheney and his chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, overruling advice from some White House political staffers and lawyers, decided to withhold crucial documents from the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2004 when the panel was investigating the use of pre-war intelligence that erroneously concluded Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, according to Bush administration and congressional sources."
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#1. To: robin (#0)
WASHINGTON, D.C. If, as the New York Times reports, Dick Cheney's chief of staff I. Lewis Libby is to be indicted today in the Plame Affair Didn't this already happen? Where are you getting your 'news' anyway?
It is from this morning (I'm on the West Coast so it is still the 28th), although the date is not all that important, it is the substance of the article that is important. Of interest in this article is the idea that Scooter may "sing" and force Cheney to resign. This is information that has not been publicized near enough yet: Thursday in the National Journal, Murray Waas gave a rundown of the kind of thing Cheney could well prefer to hide: Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war. – Donald Rumsfeld
Once Scooter sings Not going to happen.
This all a ploy, don't you know, to get Condoleeza into the VP slot, ahead of the 2006 Pres elections. Kinda makes sense, don't ya think? Crafty of Rove to have set up Libby (and Cheney!) that way!
Horse s**t. Any
grown man who allows himself to be called scooter, is quite capabe of spilling
the beans. Is this guy a fag?
30 years is long time to be holding hands with Bubba.
Not going to happen; you guys don't even read your own press. The Bush 'Crime family syndicate' will make sure he doesn't sing. Halliburtan et al cannot afford to lose Bushco to impeachment (kicked off by ousting Rover first), therefore, Bushco will be propped up by those 'powers' that underly Halliburtan et al.
Who are "we" guys? I'm not an R, nor a D. Both parties suck. But I do
agree with you in a way....nothing will happen. Anyone waiting for a downfall
from this latter day House of Usher is quilty of wishful thinking.
Halliburtan et al cannot afford to lose Bushco to impeachment (kicked off by ousting Rover first), therefore, Bushco will be propped up by those 'powers' that underly Halliburtan et al. Er, _Jim. Have you perchance taken the Red Pill, instead of the Blue one this evening?
_Jim doesn't take pills. He uses suppositories. He just loves the feeling of cramming something in his anal cavity.
Behold the power of the Illuminati; behold the power of the Bilderbergers; behold the power of the CFR; behold the power of the Trilaterists; behold the power of the Fifth Column; behold the power of the red pill ...
You would know, you're part of it, you scumbag.
Goodby Gracy.
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out dickweed.
you guys don't even read your own press. I guess I would say your own 'press' is what I read here on this site, the news, the self-authiored material, the analysis; often that is referred to as one's own 'press' or more literally 'press release', published press reports etc.
FLint, you're on Bozo filter 'til you can be come civil.
You can put me on there too.
Awwwwww, gee whiz, Flint. Now you've done it. You went and upset Jizzbreath_Jim. Hahahahaha!
Call it 'discpline', like with a dog and a new carpet; he's going to have to learn and eventually be 'housebroken'. Civility is not something one is born with, it's a learned trait. It appears that Flint may not have gotten training in those early years, or, has simply devolved here in the later years ... If he actualy wants to converse or correspond, he's going to have to come 'down to earth' and meet some minimum standards, namely, be civil.
ROTFLMAO That's a keeper. I'm sure it's also an accurate description.
LMAO!
We guys are commies. Jizzbreath defines a communist as being a person who wouldn't enjoy fluffing Bush in the shower.
Is traffic generally this light in the mornings? Or are all your compadres too scared to come out and try and make intelligent arguments in rebuttle to my posts this morning?
You aren't. You seem to enjoy coming in here and crapping the place up.
Okay - okay - I'll give you that 'they' may be busy doing yardwork and 'garage saling' this morning; I've got to make a pot of coffee and get busy myself. Good bye for now, Gracy.
Flint, PM me when you're civil again and I'll take you off Bozo ...
Your #15 doesn't address my #8. Adult ADD?
We tried to be an adult with you last night and all you did was spin and tap dance. You made as ass out of yourself and we lost all respect for you. Now we are just trashing you for fun.
I think he likes being on your bozo filter.
Jizzbreath_Jim would blow a goat, beg for more and show the photos to this mother, if his handlers told him to. Let's look at some of his past works: Jizzbreath_Jim defended the ATF's murderous actions at Waco while Clinton was president. Jizzbreath_Jim defended the governments version of events at OK city Jizzbreath_Jim, now defends the governments version of 9/11 and promotes our invasion and illegal war in Iraq.
Yeah, but what I'm wondering is, how are you going to make it through the weekend knowing that you're on his bozo list? Oh, the humanity! We might have to start a 'Free Flintlock' fund.
As usual, Jizzbreath_Jim is full of it. I'm not on his bozo I can see all his posts (if you can call them posts)
...behold an assclown pussy which can't spell English words and clings to the sinking ship that is the Bush mal-Administration.
Jizzbreath defines a communist as being a person who wouldn't enjoy fluffing Bush in the shower. Jizzbreath_Jim would blow a goat, beg for more and show the photos to this mother, if his handlers told him to. Let's look at some of his past works: Jizzbreath_Jim defended the ATF's murderous actions at Waco while Clinton was president. Jizzbreath_Jim defended the governments version of events at OK city Jizzbreath_Jim, now defends the governments version of 9/11 and promotes our invasion and illegal war in Iraq. How about this: While you're on his bozo filter we all quote you in full in our replies so he has to read them anyways?
Nahh, Trial drags on, lowlevel background, Bush pardons Libby and if need be, Cheney. Of course, Dickie's the one who instigated this; the war has made him gazillions. The Haliban don't let their profits slip by easily.
"I want the American people to know that our dreams are gone, our work was in vain. There will be no future for our children and our grandchildren in the new Iraq. The future is for the clerics. This is not the democracy we dreamed of. "--Dr. Raja Kuzai
You deserve a nice, big ATTA GIRL!!!
ROTF........nah! I won't say a word....... :) Scooter and Bubba! ROTF! Bitch and Bitchor.
Gee, I hope Jim is posting from Iraq then..
When Libby sings 222 indictments will come down. Bush and Cheney will be frog marched out of the White House. Everyone except the butlers will be in jail. All of them will be raped. In the new administration Raimondo will be press secretary. Wayne Madsen will be Secretary of State. Tom Flocco will be Vice President. President will be . . . Michael Moore. I can't wait.
I never said anything of the sort. And you know that. If you want to prove me wrong, post a link. But do us all a favor and don't start spinning and jumping the subject like a nine year old kid this evening. The adults are talking here. Come back when you grow up.
Jim is a Republican. Republicans don't do wars, Republicans send your kid to fight wars while they sit home and hammer on the keyboard. It's the natural order of things. Just as Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, Perle, Wolfowitz, Cheney and the rest of the crew. Why should they fight when they can make chumps like us do it.
The operative phrase being 'when they can make chumps like us do it'... :-(
Sorry, just trying to get into the flow of things here. I originally came to read the market posts, but I had to wade through a dozen articles by Madsen, Flocco, Raimondo, and several other well-connected, sober folks. I trying to reeducate myself. Me and John Candy.
You are a bullshitter and a would be troll. You don't rise to the level of a true troll.
I take that as a high compliment.
Phil Rizzuto? :D
You're busted, so how else are you gonna save face?
When Libby sings 222 indictments will come down. Bush and Cheney will be frog marched out of the White House. Everyone except the butlers will be in jail. All of them will be raped. In the new administration Raimondo will be press secretary. Wayne Madsen will be Secretary of State. Tom Flocco will be Vice President. President will be . . . Michael Moore. I can't wait. LOL!
Behold the IDIOT owner of FreeRepublic trying to look like "any old poster" both here and at his own site WITH TWO SCREEN NAMES.
You still haven't substantiated your pet theory that France was behind the Niger uranium forgeries. Maybe you should save yourself a lot of grief and stick to FreeRepublic and FoxNews.
"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs
LOL! (This shouted by you from the rooftops after how many gin and tonics?)
I gave that up for the latest from Madsen, Flocco, Raimondo. I have been reeducated, comrade. Shall I give you a Marxist/Leninist interpretation of breathing?
Please do, bondhue, sounds like a good takeoff point. Waiting...
"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs
Here's the link for you. http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml? xml=/news/2004/09/19/wniger19.xml
Martino? That's a WOP name, what are you, on dope?
"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs
Here's another link for you, comrade, as if we could stand to read another piece of anti-revolutionary, reactionary drivel. http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php? comments_id=3479
The American Thinker? Now there's a real un-biased source, LOL.
"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs
Yes, and the London Telegraph, which broke the story and is the first link I supplied, is a fascist run paper with that awful Ambrose-Evans Pritchard on its dole. /irony
I don't live in your Ivory Tower world, so you'll surely excuse me if I tell you to go fuck yourself...
"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs
Apparently he was only worthy of note when he was dishing the dirt on Clinton?
I have been excusing you all along.
Please note the /irony at the end of the post. I believe it was the other guy who was really dismissing the source.
Neat, send me a check for $2000, bitch!
"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs
That $2000 went for a debit card given to a person who was never employed and is likely never to be employed. Get it from him.
Republicans are in charge, $2000 credit card was their idea. Put your money where your mouth is, creep.
"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs
What made you think I like the Republicans, or their socialist policies?
Everything you've ever posted to me. Look it up, it's all in the database.
"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs
Well, I suppose I have posted that making outrageous claims of wrongdoing by people is wrong. I don't care if it's Bush or Gore, Dean or Barbour. Sitting around gleefully waiting for people to be indicted, without a shred of proof of their guilt, is wrong. I think that principle applies for anyone, even Republicans who fund bridges to nowhere. FWIW I hope George Ryan gets what is legally coming to him, as does Abramoff and his gang.
You are insane if you believe your own horse-shit lies about no difference between socialist liberal left wing whatevers and traditional liberals, aka paloecons, libertarians and assorted kooks. :) pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered
"I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S. Burroughs
Signing off of adhominem4um for the night.
Thanks, but I think _Jim has been "Raptured".
Published: Oct 29, 2005
#2. To: _Jim (#1)
If Libby's Indicted, Cheney Will Feel the Heat
Once Scooter sings, it's a whole new Plame Affair
by James Ridgeway
October 28th, 2005 10:09 AM "Vice President Cheney and his chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, overruling advice from some White House political staffers and lawyers, decided to withhold crucial documents from the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2004 when the panel was investigating the use of pre-war intelligence that erroneously concluded Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, according to Bush administration and congressional sources."
#3. To: robin (#2)
#4. To: robin (#0)
#5. To: _Jim (#3)
Not going to happen.
#6. To: _Jim (#3)
Not going to happen.
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
#8. To: _Jim (#7)
you guys don't even read your own press.
#9. To: _Jim (#7)
The Bush 'Crime family syndicate' will make sure he doesn't sing.
#10. To: FormerLurker (#9)
Er, _Jim. Have you perchance taken the Red Pill, instead of the Blue one this evening?
#11. To: FormerLurker (#9)
#12. To: _Jim (#11)
behold the power of the Fifth Column;
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#13. To: Flintlock (#12)
#14. To: _Jim (#13)
Goodby
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
#16. To: Flintlock (#13)
#17. To: _Jim (#16)
FLint, you're on Bozo filter 'til you can be come civil
#18. To: Flintlock (#12)
#19. To: Esso (#18)
#20. To: Esso, Jizzbreath_Jim (#18)
Jizzbreath_Jim
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#21. To: Esso (#18)
Jizzbreath_Jim
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
Who are "we" guys?
#23. To: avian virus (#22)
#24. To: _Jim (#19)
and eventually be 'housebroken'
#25. To: avian virus (#22)
#26. To: Flintlock (#25)
#27. To: _Jim (#15)
#28. To: _Jim (#23)
Or are all your compadres too scared to come out and try and make intelligent arguments in rebuttle to my posts this morning?
#29. To: _Jim (#26)
Flint, PM me when you're civil again and I'll take you off Bozo ...
#30. To: avian virus, Jizzbreath_Jim (#22)
Jizzbreath defines a communist as being a person who wouldn't enjoy fluffing Bush in the shower.
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#31. To: Flintlock (#30)
#32. To: Esso, _Jim stole Trace s gerbils (#31)
how are you going to make it through the weekend knowing that you're on his bozo list?
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
#33. To: _Jim (#11)
#34. To: Flintlock, all (#30)
#30. To: avian virus, Jizzbreath_Jim (#22)
#35. To: robin (#0)
#36. To: robin (#2)
#37. To: FormerLurker (#6)
30 years is long time to be holding hands with Bubba.
#38. To: Flintlock, _Jim (#30)
_Jim, now defends the governments version of 9/11 and promotes our invasion and illegal war in Iraq.
#39. To: avian virus (#28)
#40. To: bondhue (#39)
When Libby sings 222 indictments will come down. Bush and Cheney will be frog marched out of the White House. Everyone except the butlers will be in jail. All of them will be raped. In the new administration Raimondo will be press secretary. Wayne Madsen will be Secretary of State. Tom Flocco will be Vice President. President will be . . . Michael Moore. I can't wait.
#41. To: Lady X (#38)
Gee, I hope Jim is posting from Iraq then..
#42. To: avian virus (#41)
#43. To: avian virus (#40)
#44. To: bondhue (#43)
Sorry, just trying to get into the flow of things here. I originally came to read the market posts, but I had to wade through a dozen articles by Madsen, Flocco, Raimondo, and several other well-connected, sober folks. I trying to reeducate myself. Me and John Candy.
#45. To: avian virus (#44)
#46. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
Any grown man who allows himself to be called scooter,
#47. To: bondhue (#45)
I take that as a high compliment.
#48. To: bondhue (#39)
#49. To: _Jim (#11)
Elapidae, Micrurus fulvius 
#50. To: bondhue (#43)
Sorry, just trying to get into the flow of things here. I originally came to read the market posts, but I had to wade through a dozen articles by Madsen, Flocco, Raimondo, and several other well-connected, sober folks. I trying to reeducate myself.
#51. To: Coral Snake (#49)
#52. To: Dakmar (#50)
#53. To: bondhue (#52)
Shall I give you a Marxist/Leninist interpretation of breathing?
#54. To: Dakmar (#53)
#55. To: bondhue (#54)
#56. To: Dakmar (#55)
#57. To: bondhue (#56)
There is no limit to the topics appearing on The American Thinker. National security in all its dimensions, strategic, economic, diplomatic, and military is emphasized. The right to exist, and the survival of the State of Israel are of great importance to us. Business, science, technology, medicine, management, and economics in their practical and ethical dimensions are also emphasized, as is the state of American culture.
#58. To: Dakmar (#57)
#59. To: bondhue (#58)
#60. To: bondhue (#58)
Ambrose-Evans Pritchard on its dole
#61. To: Dakmar (#59)
#62. To: rowdee (#60)
#63. To: bondhue (#61)
I have been excusing you all along.
#64. To: Dakmar (#63)
#65. To: bondhue (#64)
#66. To: Dakmar (#65)
#67. To: bondhue (#66)
What made you think I like the Republicans, or their socialist policies?
#68. To: Dakmar (#67)
#69. To: bondhue (#68)
Sitting around gleefully waiting for people to be indicted, without a shred of proof of their guilt, is wrong. I think that principle applies for anyone, even Republicans who fund bridges to nowhere.
#70. To: Dakmar (#69)
#71. To: PnbC (#34)
How about this: While you're on his bozo filter we all quote you in full in our replies so he has to read them anyways?
Hey, Meester,wanna meet my seester?
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