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Title: Ron Paul: “The PATRIOT Act Was Written Many, Many Years Before 9/11 [And The Attacks Simply Provided] An Opportunity ...
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URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/contribute ... -years-911-and-attacks-simply-
Published: Dec 10, 2011
Author: gw
Post Date: 2011-12-10 15:49:58 by tom007
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Ron Paul: “The PATRIOT Act Was Written Many, Many Years Before 9/11 [And The Attacks Simply Provided] An Opportunity ... George Washington's picture Submitted by George Washington on 12/09/2011 18:16 -0500

Politico notes:

Ron Paul isn’t backing down from his position that the U.S. has provoked terrorists through foreign military occupation and that officials tried to capitalize on Sept. 11 attacks.

“Think of what happened after 9/11, the minute before there was any assessment, there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq, and so the war drums beat,” Paul said Thursday night before a packed room of more than 1,000 students and supporters. “That’s exactly what they’re doing now with Iran.”

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His libertarian ideals have struck a cord with many, but conservatives remain deeply wary of Paul’s foreign policy positions, including his assertion that the U.S. provoked the Sept. 11 attacks by maintaining military bases in foreign countries. Paul’s position as the lone dove in the GOP race has made him a foil for some of his hawkish Republican opponents.

“Extremists have taken over, and they’re the ones who run the foreign policy and have convinced us to go along with all these wars,” Paul said Wednesday night.

Paul said that claims Iran could be developing a nuclear weapon are just part of an effort to scare Americans into going to war again.

Paul said of the possibility that Iran has a nuclear weapon is “not true at all.” “It doesn’t mean they might not want a nuclear weapon.”

No other country, Paul said, is capable of attacking the United States.

“How many foreign countries can threaten us right now?” Paul asked sarcastically. “How many are likely to invade us or drop a bomb on us? I can’t imagine.”

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“The PATRIOT Act was written many, many years before 9/11,” Paul said. The attacks simply provided “an opportunity for some people to do what they wanted to do,” he said.

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“I wish we could guarantee a democratic and honest election in this country as well,” Paul said. “The democratic process in this country has a long way to go.”

Mr. Paul is right:

The government’s spying on Americans began before 9/11 (confirmed here and here. And see this)

The Patriot Act was planned before 9/11 (and see this). Indeed, former Counter Terrorism Czar Richard Clarke told Stanford law professor Lawrence Lessig:

After 9/11 the government drew up the Patriot Act within 20 days and it was passed.

The Patriot Act is huge and I remember someone asking a Justice Department official how did they write such a large statute so quickly, and of course the answer was that it has been sitting in the drawers of the Justice Department for the last 20 years waiting for the event where they would pull it out.

(4:30 into this video).

Government plans, exercises or drills to detain American citizens who opposed war were also drawn up before 9/11

The Afghanistan war was planned before 9/11 (see this and this)

The decision to launch the Iraq war was made before 9/11. Indeed, former CIA director George Tenet said that the White House wanted to invade Iraq long before 9/11, and inserted “crap” in its justifications for invading Iraq. Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill – who sat on the National Security Council – also says that Bush planned the Iraq war before 9/11. Top British officials say that the U.S. discussed Iraq regime change even before Bush took office. And in 2000, Cheney said a Bush administration might “have to take military action to forcibly remove Saddam from power.” And see this.

Cheney made Iraqi’s oil fields a national security priority before 9/11. And the Sunday Herald reported: “Five months before September 11, the US advocated using force against Iraq … to secure control of its oil.” (remember that Alan Greenspan, John McCain, George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, a high-level National Security Council officer and others all say that the Iraq war was really about oil.)

The decision to threaten to bomb Iran was made before 9/11, and the Christian Science Monitor notes that the U.S. has been claiming for more than 30 years that Iran was on the verge of nuclear capability

Wars throughout the Middle East and North Africa to effect regime were planned before 9/11

Cheney dreamed of giving the White House the powers of a monarchy long before 9/11

Cheney and Rumsfeld actively generated fake intelligence which exaggerated the threat from an enemy in order to justify huge amounts of military spending long before 9/11. And see this

The government knew that terrorists could use planes as weapons — and had even run its own drills of planes being used as weapons against the World Trade Center and other U.S. high-profile buildings, using REAL airplanes — all before 9/11

America played dirty games to justify wars before 9/11

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

Ron Paul is right when he says that the WTC attack was provoked by US occupation. Back in 1993, when the Arabs first tried to bring down the WTC with a truck bomb, Bin Laden said it was retaliation for US presence in the "sacred land" of Saudi Arabia.

But I doubt the Patriot Act was years before the WTC attack. The Patriot Act was formally proposed weeks AFTER the attack, but it was a bill of such enormity that it was sort of obvious that writing it all must have started before the attacks, but I don't think anyone ever found out just how far back that was. Probably much earlier in the Bush Administration but I doubt it was started under Clinton.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-12-10   16:16:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Shoonra (#1)

Thing is, it wasn't bin Laden or his merry gang of 19 (some of which are still alive) that perpetrated the 9/11 attacks. Due to various physical impossibilities, and direct evidence of not only Israeli involvement, but of a massive US government directed coverup, it is obvious who DIDN'T perpetrate the attacks, and fairly obvious who did.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-12-10   17:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Shoonra (#1)

Administration but I doubt it was started under Clinton.

Try under the commie poppy bush. It has cia written all over it!

ambi  posted on  2011-12-10   18:12:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Shoonra (#1)

But I doubt the Patriot Act was years before the WTC attack. The Patriot Act was formally proposed weeks AFTER the attack, but it was a bill of such enormity that it was sort of obvious that writing it all must have started before the attacks, but I don't think anyone ever found out just how far back that was. Probably much earlier in the Bush Administration but I doubt it was started under Clinton.

GONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG! LOGIC ERROR ALERT! LOGIC ERROR ALERT!

Let's test your memory of recent history:

Which pResidential Maladministration immediately preceded the reign of error of the Texan from Kennebunkport? You know, the Moron-In-Chief?

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-10   18:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ambi (#3)

Administration but I doubt it was started under Clinton.

Try under the commie poppy bush. It has cia written all over it!

Bingo! and I agree.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-12-10   18:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#0)

“I wish we could guarantee a democratic and honest election in this country as well,” Paul said. “The democratic process in this country has a long way to go.”

This is a really big statement. He is admitting voter fraud is widespread. I think Mr. Paul has finally had enough.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-12-10   18:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tom007 (#0)

The USA PATRIOT Act Was Planned Before 9/11 — Global Issues
May 21, 2002 ... Many people do not know that the USA PATRIOT Act was already written and ready to go long before September 11th. Recent criticism of ... www.globalissues.org/arti...ct-was-planned-before-911

Newsvine - In 1995 Joe Biden Basically Wrote The PATRIOT Act.
In 1995 Joe Biden Basically Wrote The PATRIOT Act. Seeded on Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:06 AM EDT. Read Article Article Source: CNET.com. politics, terror ... killfile.newsvine.com/_ne...lly-wrote-the-patriot-act

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-12-10   19:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tom007 (#0)

conservatives remain deeply wary of Paul’s foreign policy positions,

Paul’s foreign policy positions don't coincide with Israeli interests so any candidates, GOP or Democrat would not get the organizational support that the Israeli lobby can arrange for success at the polls. An obvious reason to be wary.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-12-11   0:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Itistoolate (#7)

The USA PATRIOT Act Was Planned Before 9/11 —

It was also rushed through without allowing any debate on it

The PATRIOT Act was not available to read or study before it was voted

Only 0.4 percent of Patriot Act spying efforts using sneak and peek searches had anything at all to do even with allegations of terrorist plots – and that’s among the legal sneak and peek operations that the FBI reported on instead of covering up!

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2011-12-11   1:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: RickyJ (#6)

This is a really big statement.

No kidding.

I bet it will be the lead story in the media.

Ha Ah.

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tom007  posted on  2011-12-11   7:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Itistoolate (#7)

The USA PATRIOT Act Was Planned Before 9/11 — Global Issues May 21, 2002 ... Many people do not know that the USA PATRIOT Act was already written and ready to go long before September 11th. Recent criticism of ... www.globalissues.org/arti...ct-was-planned-before-911

I feel this first link may be closer to the truth. It appears that the P.A. was a hastily contrived conglomeration of anti-constitutional, freedom restricting acts that the gov't had been trying to pass for two decades.

There is evidence that, rather than Joe Biden, Dick Cheney's illegal wiretap program, could have been the blueprint/inspiration for the act.

9/11 may have been the pent-ultimate coup of coups d'etat, that finally allowed the CORPORATION to seize the power that it wanted all along.

It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?

angK  posted on  2011-12-11   10:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tom007 (#0)

“I wish we could guarantee a democratic and honest election in this country as well,” Paul said. “The democratic process in this country has a long way to go.”

that's the most important thing he said here.

christine  posted on  2011-12-12   11:20:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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