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Title: POLL BOMBSHELL: Ron Paul Is Close To A Win In Iowa
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URL Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/shoc ... -newt-gingrich-in-iowa-2011-12
Published: Dec 13, 2011
Author: Grace Wyler
Post Date: 2011-12-13 16:23:06 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 1137
Comments: 100

Ron Paul, the once-forgotten presidential candidate, is picking up steam in Iowa and now appears poised to overtake frontrunner Newt Gingrich, according to a new survey released today from the left-leaning Public Policy Polling.

The poll finds support for Gingrich has slipped to 22%, with Ron Paul just behind with 21%. Mitt Romney trails in third place with 16%.

That's a five-point drop in favorability for Gingrich, who has raced to the top of the Republican presidential field over the past month. PPP found Gingrich's favorability numbers have fallen 19 points over the past week.

Meanwhile, support for Paul is on the rise, particularly among younger voters and voters who identify themselves as "new." Among likely caucus-goers under age 45, Paul leads Gingrich 30-16. The numbers are nearly flipped for caucus-goers over age 45.

But what Paul's fans lack in age and experience, they make up for in enthusiasm — 77% of Paul supporters say they are definitely going to vote for him, compared to 54% for Gingrich.

Interestingly, Romney's support is also stronger than Gingrich's in Iowa, despite Romney's relative absence from the state this fall — 67% of Romney supporters say they will definitely be voting for him.

In fact, there is strong evidence that Romney actually could have been a major factor in Iowa this year, if he had not stayed away from the state. As PPP notes, only 44% of Romney's 2008 supporters plan to vote for him this time — which means if he had just managed to keep his support from last time, he would be leading in Iowa by now.

The PPP survey finds the rest of the field largely unchanged. Michele Bachmann comes in fourth with 11%, down from 13% last week. Rick Perry stayed stagnant at 9%, apparently unaffected by his controversial gay marriage/war on Christmas ad last week. Rick Santorum came in with 8%, while Jon Huntsman rounded out the field with 5% support.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

most Amerikans are too stupid and too dependent to support Ron Paul.

sorry to say, the shit is going to hit the fan and it's going to be world wide hell. but Amerika gets the brunt of it. Imperial new communist world order led by the USSA. hahaha the Commies won !


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   16:43:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: ferret (#1)

In the October, 1948, Partisan Review, Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., wrote, "I see no obstacle to the gradual advance of socialism in the United States through a series of New Deals."


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   16:46:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rotara (#1)

yep....

so, i'll dance instead. ;)

christine  posted on  2011-12-13   17:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rotara (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-13   17:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0)

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-12-13   17:23:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: all (#0)

These polls are likely more accurate than the election results !

Geez, I hate the election cycle. I see those around me rooting for their longshot horse to cross the finish line in the lead. And it almost makes me ill to see these folks get all worked up, filled with hope, only to be let down every election.

If their guy happens to win he never does what he promised just like the current occupant and all of the previous puppets.

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-13   18:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#6)

That's why Paul must contest each and every vote that he does not win.

This time, there's no more Mr.Nice Guy.

Expose the fraud in the black boxes.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-12-13   18:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#6)

I concur with your post 100%. But the good Dr is not going to contest any vote fraud. He is going to go eat pancakes at his masonic lodge and retire on the beach.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2011-12-13   18:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#0)

The poll finds support for Gingrich has slipped to 22%, with Ron Paul just behind with 21%. Mitt Romney trails in third place with 16%.

Good news indeed! With Paul's support being more solid than Gingrich's and Romney's a snowstorm on the day of the primary could mean a big Ron Paul win in Iowa! I am ordering my Ron Paul bumper stickers today!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-12-13   18:26:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rotara (#1)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2011-12-13   18:53:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#0)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2011-12-13   18:54:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#6)

I suspect that getting all worked up about Ron Paul and throwing a bunch of worthless FRNs at his campaign is much more satisfying than loading a bunch of 30 round magazines and killing Americans in a civil war.

If I get disappointed yet again, it still probably feels better than killing would, I suppose.

Until the war starts, I'll keep playing their silly game. After it starts, well...


"[Ron Paul is] the only one who understands our problems. For the rest of them, it’s like a geography bee — name the country, and they want to fight them,” - Jason Nunn

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Critter  posted on  2011-12-13   19:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)

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Ferret  posted on  2011-12-13   19:48:11 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: noone222, 4 (#6)

Geez, I hate the election cycle. I see those around me rooting for their longshot horse to cross the finish line in the lead. And it almost makes me ill to see these folks get all worked up, filled with hope, only to be let down every election.

I won't be let down one bit. The movement he's creating has *finally* taken root. Everyone on 4um knows once one becomes "aware" there's no turning back. Win, lose or draw, RPs effort this year is simply outstanding.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-12-13   19:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

My sister who already has her Obama 2012 bumper sticker and is profoundly disappointed in my insane "childishness asked me; "Why is that old coot even bothering doing a run for the White House again?"

I told her, "Because we've only just begun to fight."

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-13   19:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret (#15)

He has more honesty, integrity, and honor than all the rest combined.

The only one fit to be the potus.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-12-13   20:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

Win, lose or draw, RPs effort this year is simply outstanding.

I'd like to see him walk in to the next debate with a 357 and shoot the other candidates and the hosts - blow the smoke from the barrel and say - Black that out CNN-FOX-ABC.

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-13   20:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: noone222 (#17)

but if you or i did it, Ron would be the last man standing and face a last minute pinch hitter. his odds would go up versus being another casualty. we should program Rosie O'Donnell to do it..just saying.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   20:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#16)

The local hot-shot talk yokel went through the whole Iowa roster numbers including Bachmann, Huntsman and Santorum, and then quite patronizingly gave Ron Paul the also ran treatment as a afterthought like they had to mention his name or get a flood of hot phone calls.

I'd love to call and stick it in their faces should RP take 1st or 2nd place.

randge  posted on  2011-12-13   20:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#18)

who else can TPTB dig up at this point ??????


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   20:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: randge (#19)

i shit on people like that. figuratively and literally.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   20:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret (#15)

Well said Mike, and good for you. Discussing politics inside families is risky business. After our dinner, I plant myself in front of the tube and watch whatever game is on so as not to engage in politics. For me there is a time and place, but hot damn, RP is sure making the TIME NOW thanks to his surge. Man I hope he wins :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-12-13   20:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: All (#21)

you know how Commie-firsters and Homo-firsters..etc..stick together ?

that's how US Americans are.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   20:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Critter (#12)

Until the war starts, I'll keep playing their silly game. After it starts, well...

Playing their silly game is only silly on our part, they're serious. And our "silly" game playing seemingly condones their corruption and pays for their efforts to destroy the country. Each new administration further locks down the country and increases the efficiency of the police state.

Why shouldn't they think we like it if we participate in the fraud and finance it. (Fucking bullshit).

Revolution is long over due ...

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-13   20:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Rotara (#21)

Steamin' turds.

They will come out with the long knives if RP comes within sniffing distance. The dual loyalists have them all in their pockets.

randge  posted on  2011-12-13   20:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Rotara (#18)

we should program Rosie O'Donnell to do it..just saying

hahahahaha ... people would try to elect that fat bitch !

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-13   20:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: noone222 (#17)

I'd like to see him walk in to the next debate with a 357 and shoot the other candidates and the hosts - blow the smoke from the barrel and say - Black that out CNN-FOX-ABC.

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Doug, you are the most consistent poster on this board!!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-12-13   20:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: randge (#25)

Ron has survived a million cuts. i suspect he's going to make it this time; and if by some quirk they 'get' him, i will personally kill 5 rotchilds and 10,000 others. catch me if you can.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   20:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

Doug, you are the most consistent poster on this board!!!

Thanks, and Merry Christmas - JT !

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-13   20:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: noone222 (#26)

oy


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   20:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rotara (#28)

and if by some quirk they 'get' him,

He does have a highly motivated base !

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-13   20:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod (#16)

Ron Paul is an unusual candidate, an honest man with courage and conviction; someone who won't be bought, and keeps those in the shadows with the power awake at night.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-13   20:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret (#32)

are you prepared to renounce your support for fObama ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   20:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret (#32)

Ron Paul is an unusual candidate, an honest man with courage and conviction; someone who won't be bought, and keeps those in the shadows with the power awake at night.

He's the only "R" that can defeat Obama. And, it's for all of the right reasons that he could bring left and right together, just as you stated above.

People disagree on lots of issues that would either be better left to the states or the individuals themselves and everyone is sick to fucking death of the corruption and cronyism.

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-13   20:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: noone222 (#29)

And all the best to you and yours! Let's enjoy what we have for as long as we can!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-12-13   20:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Rotara (#33)

are you prepared to renounce your support for fObama ?

Are you trying to stir up some shit ... again ?????

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-13   20:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: noone222, Ferret (#34)

the ferret might have me on filter. would you care to posit my last question or 2 or 3 to Mike and see what the disconnect is ??? you can't serve bullshit for two masters.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   20:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: noone222 (#36)

truth in advertising as it applies to blogs ??? how about Mike reconcile his political/Americana schizophrenia ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   21:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull (#35)

Let's enjoy what we have for as long as we can!!

Man, I toss that thought around in my head quite a bit. I don't have anything against fun or having a good time.

But truthfully, I'd feel guilty going to my grave leaving my offspring to deal with these cocksuckers having never given them a go. And, since I can't get the world to quit the system so it will collapse I think we're going to have the fight.

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-13   21:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: noone222 (#39)

i'm with you, Doug.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-13   21:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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