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Title: 8 reasons why Ronald Reagan was the worst President of our lifetime
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Published: Dec 13, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-12-13 18:53:57 by tom007
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8 reasons why Ronald Reagan was the worst President of our lifetime

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If you ever happen to come across a Republican on television these days, chances are that you will hear the name Ronald Reagan. Recent Republican debates are the perfect example of the love fest that the current Republican party has for Reagan as each candidate name drops the former president at every turn. If you only listened to conservatives you would think that Jesus Christ was the only person above Reagan on the totem pole of conservative love. They talk about his love of low taxes, less government and conservative family values. The problem is that when you step out of the conservative dream and come back to reality, you find that not only was Ronald Reagan a bad president, but he was one of the worst presidents we've seen in modern times. Reagan's policies have destroyed the United States for three decades, and for the eight years he was in office, here are eight reasons why Ronald Reagan was the worst president of our lifetime. 1. Reagan cut taxes for the Rich, increased taxes on the Middle Class - Advertisement Ronald Reagan is loved by conservatives and was loved by big business throughout his presidency and there's a reason for it. When Reagan came into office in January of 1981, the top tax rate was 70%, but when he left office in 1989 the top tax rate was down to only 28%. As Reagan gave the breaks to all his rich friends, there was a lack of revenue coming into the federal government. In order to bring money back into the government, Reagan was forced to raise taxes eleven times throughout his time in office. One example was when he signed into law the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982. Reagan raised taxes seven of the eight years he was in office and the tax increases were felt hardest by the lower and middle class.

2. Tripling the National Debt - As Reagan cut taxes for the wealthy, the government was left with less money to spend. When Reagan came into office the national debt was $900 billion, by the time he left the national debt had tripled to $2.8 trillion.

3. Iran/Contra - In 1986, a group of Americans were being held hostage by a terrorist group with ties to Iran. In an attempt to free the hostages, Ronald Reagan secretly sold arms and money to Iran. Much of the money that was received from the trade went to fund the Nicaragua Contra rebels who were in a war with the Sandinista government of Nicaragua. When the scandal broke in the Untied States it became the biggest story in the country, Reagan tried to down play what happened, but never fully recovered.

4. Reagan funded Terrorists - The attacks on 9/11 by al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden brought new attention to international terrorism. All of a sudden, Americans coast to coast wore their American flag pins, ate their freedom fries and couldn't wait to go to war with anyone who looked like a Muslim. What Americans didn't realize was that the same group that attacked the United States on 9/11 was funded by Ronald Reagan in the 1980s. Prepping for a possible war with the Soviet Union, Ronald Reagan spent billions of dollars funding the Islamist mujahidin Freedom Fighters in Afghanistan. With billions of American dollars, weapons and training coming their way, the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden took everything they were given and gave it back to the United States over a decade later in the worst possible way imaginable.

5. Unemployment issues - When Ronald Reagan came into office 1981, unemployment was at 7.5%. After Reagan cut taxes for the wealthy, he began raising taxes on the middle and lower class. Corporations started to ship more jobs out of the United States while hiring cheap foreign labor in order to make a bigger profit. While corporations made billions, Americans across the country lost their jobs. As 1982 came to a close, unemployment was nearly 11%. Unemployment began to drop as the years went on, but the jobs that were created were low paying and barely helped people make ends meet. The middle and lower class had their wages nearly frozen as the top earners saw dramatic increases in salary.

6. Ignoring AIDS - By the time the 1980s came around, AIDS had become one of the most frightening things to happen to the country in recent memory. No one understood what AIDS and HIV really was and when people don't understand something, they become scared of it. The fear of the unknown was sweeping across the country and Americans needed a leader to speak out about this horrible virus, that leader never came. Instead of grabbing the bull by the horns and taking charge, Reagan kept quiet. Reagan couldn't say the words AIDS or HIV until seven years into his presidency, a leader not so much.

7. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million Undocumented Immigrants - In today's GOP, the idea of any immigrant staying in the United States whether they are legal or illegal isn't something that conservatives embrace. What might shock them is that in 1982 Ronald Reagan gave nearly 3 million undocumented workers amnesty. The biggest reason for undocumented workers coming to the United States is because corporations hire them at a cheaper rate than they would an American citizen. All the laws that would have cracked down on companies who hire undocumented workers were, of course, removed from the bill.

8. His attack on Unions and the Middle Class - The Republican war on unions and the middle class has been heating up in states like Wisconsin and Ohio, but it has been going on for a long time. Unions are formed to give a united voice to the workers in an attempt to create fairness between the corporations and their employees. On August 3rd, 1981, PATCO (Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization) went on strike in an effort to get better pay and safer working conditions. Two days later, taking the side of business, Ronald Reagan fired 11,345 workers for not returning to work. Suggested by the author:

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

Reagan may not have been a very good President, but I doubt he was the worst. I think Dubya may still have that trophy.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-12-13   19:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Shoonra (#1)

Allowed.

Easily.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2011-12-13   19:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Shoonra (#1)

"Reagan may not have been a very good President, but I doubt he was the worst."

Close enough.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-13   19:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Shoonra (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-13   22:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tom007 (#0)

Is your kid still dead?

"You'll just sing about Jesus and drink wine all day. It's great to be an American" - Sail Away by Randy Newman

Flintlock  posted on  2011-12-14   0:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Flintlock (#5)

corn flake shoonra. what a 'pair'.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   0:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rotara (#6)

corn flake shoonra. what a 'pair'.

Three Pees in a pod

"You'll just sing about Jesus and drink wine all day. It's great to be an American" - Sail Away by Randy Newman

Flintlock  posted on  2011-12-14   0:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Flintlock, ferret (#7)

i can't imagine how without drug$ some people have the nerve to post on 4um after all these perjorative insults they've strewn about.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Rotara (#8)

Nah, no drugs, huggie bear. nless you count a coffee addiction as a jones. I drink mine black as my little old heart.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-14   1:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: erret (#9)

i've always believed drugs would have been one of the cureable of your deep deep problems.

but you're a Class A-1 Liar, Fraud and Commie Internationalist Warmonger Race Card Pulling Son of a Bitch.

Die.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Rotara (#10)

I don't even drink alcohol. And with your ego, you would never make it through the SERE Course designed by Colonel Nick Rowe to harden Americans to the brutal realities of life in low intensity conflict.

I don't give a rat's ass what you think of me. It is your problem, not mine.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-14   1:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret (#11) (Edited)

you don't need alcohol. i know. i know you. if you still used beyond a quixid i'd be amazed. you'd never show even a fraction of your coherent up side schizoid-side. however, i will not allow you to buffalo anyone else on this site you fObama loving progressive fellow travelling whore. Am I being Clear ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Shoonra, tom007 (#1)

Reagan may not have been a very good President, but I doubt he was the worst. I think Dubya may still have that trophy.

I don't know. Oh'bummer seems to contending heavily for the dishonor.

Git'mo still open? Check!

Massive new taxes for inferior hellthcare? Check?

Supported the rape of Libya? Check!

Massive unemployment despite cooked numbers? Check!

Likely guilty of wire fraud and illegally in office? Check!

Signing unconstitutional laws in violation of the Bill of Rights? Check!

Demanding the right unilaterally by decree lock up citizens without trial or due process? Check!

Asserting the authority to murder people suspected of "terrorism"? Check!

Great record there doncha' think?

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   1:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#13)

Is there anything positive that Obama has done? Where's that transparency he promised?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-14   1:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#13)

every friggin one gets WORSE !

CHECK !

can't even imagine what mitnewtbomb has on top !!!

wow. life has never been clearer and more serene for me than in the last few hard years.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: abraxas, Original_Intent (#14)

Is there anything positive that Obama has done? Where's that transparency he promised?

It was during his campaign. You were supposed to see through his lies.


As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-14   1:25:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: farmfriend (#16)

He did something positive during his campaign? Do tell.....and I'm not counting the win by blowing smoke up the asses of the masses.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-14   1:27:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: abraxas (#14)

Where's that transparency he promised?

Maybe hith friend Reggie Love hath it?

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   1:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rotara (#15)

can't even imagine what mitnewtbomb has on top !!!

Oh'bummer?

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   1:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#18)

Reggie Love hath it

lol.....who is going to check there? Ab can't touch that.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-14   1:31:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#19)

4 more years going the other direction no matter witch you choose. hehe sigh


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#13)

Have you viewed this?

Obama insisted that US citizens and lawful citizens be included in NDAA 1031 Citizen Imprisonment Law.....so you know he will sign what he claimed he would veto.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-14   1:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: abraxas (#20)

Not going there. Not prudent. No, no, no. :-)

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   1:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Rotara (#21)

4 more years going the other direction no matter witch you choose. hehe sigh

Well we have a choice of a Demotard or "Our Gang".

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   1:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent (#24)

you know my choice. i gave up on the ridiculous contemporary concept of a 'ballot' box a few years ago. no offense to anyone still fighting really good fights up there.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: abraxas (#22)

Obama insisted that US citizens and lawful citizens be included in NDAA 1031 Citizen Imprisonment Law.....so you know he will sign what he claimed he would veto.

Yes, I was aware. It's in the conference committee now and word is Oh'bummer is getting what he wants - the abolition of Habeus Corpus, the right to trial by jury, basically the whole frickin' Bill of Rights protections against illegal and unjust imprisonment.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   1:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Rotara (#25)

you know my choice. i gave up on the ridiculous contemporary concept of a 'ballot' box a few years ago. no offense to anyone still fighting really good fights up there.

Understood, but at the moment I have little choice as it takes a certain amount of dinero to get out of dodge.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   1:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent (#26)

Where is the frickin' ACLU? I am so disgusted right now....

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-14   1:46:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: abraxas (#28)

Where is the frickin' ACLU? I am so disgusted right now....

Defending Nazis?

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   1:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Original_Intent, all my American friends on 4um (#26)

BTW, I want to wish you and all my friends here a Merry Christmas. I'm shipping out here soon and then may never traverse the Internets again. God I hope not anyway. ;-) Godspeed to All my American friends. fuck you posers; you deceitful pigs. you know who you are.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#26)

They way things are going is blackly interesting, because they show that it matters little who is in control. After LBJ and others murdered John Kennedy who had spoken out of the dangers of shadow government control, it's all been downhill here.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-14   1:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Original_Intent (#27)

you can do it. just look at it differently. find victory.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent (#29)

Defending Nazis?

Over at the ADL. lol

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-14   1:48:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Rotara (#30)

Season's Greetings to you, and good luck in your travels. Stay safe.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-14   1:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Rotara (#30)

BTW, I want to wish you and all my friends here a Merry Christmas. I'm shipping out here soon and then may never traverse the Internets again. God I hope not anyway. ;-)

Well where the wind takes you I wish you Fair Winds and Following Seas.

MERRY CHRISTMAS

And hope you won't think I'm too selfish to hope that we may continue to hear your voice - so to speak. ;-)

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   1:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Rotara (#30)

I want to wish you and all my friends here a Merry Christmas. I'm shipping out here soon

Merry Christmas to you! Shipping out? We shall miss you. Maybe that's where Dak went.....he had the pirate way about him. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-14   1:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: tom007 (#0)

btw, Tom. is this is an attempt for you to deflect attention away from the FACT that you were sucking fObama's tail pipe exhaust last "s"election cycle ? just askin'


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: abraxas (#36)

Dak and I invested in a chain of Islands in the Atlantis.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Rotara (#38)

I've been lookin' for Atlantis, mate. Ye, sea wenches best be savin' some treasure fer me. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-14   1:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Original_Intent (#35)

you'll hear me. and it'll be LOUD. V only has one thing on me. and i'll never tell what that is. e-he-he. how many days until '12 ? i love you Brother. forever appreciative.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   1:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Rotara (#40)

V only has one thing on me.

Better looking? Nicer pad? Running water?

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   1:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Original_Intent (#41)

Better tunes on his jukebox.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-14   1:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Rotara (#40)

i love you Brother. forever appreciative.

Thanks. And blessings.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   2:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret (#42)

Better tunes on his jukebox.

I've always liked Flamenco music.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   2:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Original_Intent (#41)

Better looking? Nicer pad? Running water?

no.

he never left his home country. he lived alone in the shadows the whole time with a singular purpose and no others.

p&l

later.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-12-14   2:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: All (#44)

And to all a good night.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   2:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent (#44)

Heh, same here, though if it has pretty enough señoritas dancing to it, so much the better.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-14   2:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Ferret (#47)

Heh, same here, though if it has pretty enough señoritas dancing to it, so much the better.

Si, amigo.

Buenos Nachos.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-12-14   2:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Original_Intent (#48)

Que el mismo amigo.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-14   2:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: tom007 (#0)

On August 3rd, 1981, PATCO (Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization) went on strike in an effort to get better pay and safer working conditions. Two days later, taking the side of business, Ronald Reagan fired 11,345 workers for not returning to work.

I was stranded up in Calgary, Alberta, on a family vacation when that went down. Dad rented a crappy 4-door sedan and we drove all the way down to Salt Lake City to catch a flight back to DFW. The pain was doubled since we suffered the drive under Jimmuh Cawtah's 55mph national speed limit...,

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2011-12-14   3:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: abraxas (#22)

i'm too late again:

"This video has been removed by the user."

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-12-14   5:08:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#51)

--

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-14   6:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Ferret (#52)

NDAA Section 1031: Read the facts, sign the petition.

randge  posted on  2011-12-14   8:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: randge (#53)

Thanks.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-14   8:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret (#54)

We're on the road to war.

We are already prepositioning troops in Jordan for action against Syria.

There's no war abroad without repression at home.

randge  posted on  2011-12-14   8:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ferret (#54) (Edited)

The alternative press is crackling with reports of the military buildup in Jordan.

google

(link fixed)

randge  posted on  2011-12-14   8:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Rotara (#37)

deflect attention away from the FACT that you were sucking fObama's tail pipe exhaust last "s"election cycle ? just askin

So you supported John and Sarah?

Or did you show how important you were by not voting?

Just askin.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2011-12-14   10:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: tom007 (#57)

To: Rotara

deflect attention away from the FACT that you were sucking fObama's tail pipe exhaust last "s"election cycle ? just askin

So you supported John and Sarah?

Or did you show how important you were by not voting?

Just askin.

Bingo. We have a winner.

randge  posted on  2011-12-14   10:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: abraxas (#17)

He did something positive during his campaign? Do tell.....

No the transparency was during his campaign.


As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-14   12:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: farmfriend, abraxas (#59)

His transparency was murky, at best. I always attributed an ulterior motive to every utterance he's ever made. His hidden background was just the start of his life of deception.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2011-12-14   13:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: X-15, abraxas (#60)

His transparency was murky, at best. I always attributed an ulterior motive to every utterance he's ever made. His hidden background was just the start of his life of deception

I was being sarcastic. That post was more trouble than it was worth.


As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-14   13:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: tom007 (#0) (Edited)

RR last served this nation as president over 23 years ago and he died in 2004. That this thread has gotten more than 60 replies shows me how little we realize the danger of the current occupant poses to our last remaining freedoms. I'd switch out a DEAD RR over this Kenyan tomorrow.

I think I need a new ping list.

I'll call it "Political Deflection."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-12-14   14:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Eric Stratton, Shoonra (#4)

I thought that everyone knew that they got worse with every election. That being the case the Kenyan is the worst ever. Of course if you take into account that he is just a squatter and not really eligible to be president maybe you could make the case that he's not the worst one we've ever had, since he really isn't the president, but as long as some folks insist that he is the president I will tell them that he is the worst ever. Worse than Reagan and worse than Dumbya. And I thought that the bottom had been knocked slam out of the barrel with Dumbya but the Kenyan knocked the bottom out of the barrel and started digging.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-12-14   15:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

I'd switch out a DEAD RR over this Kenyan tomorrow.

Yessir--and I wasn't any big fan of Reagan either but he was better than the Kenyan by a long shot.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-12-14   15:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Rotara (#30)

BTW, I want to wish you and all my friends here a Merry Christmas. I'm shipping out here soon and then may never traverse the Internets again. God I hope not anyway. ;-) Godspeed to All my American friends. fuck you posers; you deceitful pigs. you know who you are.

You have my email address and I will expect you to use it if you decide to quit posting--but of course I hope you don't stop posting either.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2011-12-14   15:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

Good post, and just for context reasons I might add much I said was just revisiting old lines of criticism taken when talking long ago on him.

The nostalgia factor plays into this in other words.

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-14   17:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: farmfriend (#61)

I was being sarcastic. That post was more trouble than it was worth.

Sorry, I missed it. Between laundry and Christmas shopping my mind is scattered today :-o

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2011-12-14   18:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: X-15, farmfriend (#67)

I was being sarcastic. That post was more trouble than it was worth.

Sorry, I missed it.

X and I are sarc impaired.......not at dishing it out, mostly at seeing it in the most obvious places. Derb nub it! We shall strive to improve. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-14   21:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: abraxas, X-15, (#68)

Derb nub it! We shall strive to improve. : )

Yes, don't let it happen again. I've got my eye on your.


As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-15   2:05:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: farmfriend, abraxas (#69)

"Images in eyeball are closer than they appear"

:-o

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2011-12-15   19:18:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: farmfriend (#69) (Edited)

love the eyeball

Ferret  posted on  2011-12-15   20:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: farmfriend (#69)

Your eyeball keeps looking down, like it's checking me out.


Anyone offended by this post, click here.


"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion." -Albert Camus.

Armadillo  posted on  2011-12-15   20:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Armadillo (#72)

Your eyeball keeps looking down, like it's checking me out.

I got that from Who.


As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-15   23:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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