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Title: House and Obama OK Forever-Prison Bill
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://news.antiwar.com/2011/12/14/ ... -obama-ok-forever-prison-bill/
Published: Dec 15, 2011
Author: John Glaser
Post Date: 2011-12-15 07:27:16 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 181
Comments: 10

Law will allow indefinite detentions without charge or trial, even for American citizens

The House of Representatives on Wednesday passed the current defense authorization bill, which includes a provision that would codify a system of military prisons to indefinitely detain terrorism suspects without charge or trial, including American citizens caught on U.S. soil.

The bill passed 283-136 in the House and a committee version of the bill passed in the Senate 93-7 last week. The Senate is expected to make a final vote on Thursday and send it to the White House to sign into law by the end of the week.

The Obama administration is supportive of the bill, despite threatening to veto it on the grounds that those provisions “mandat[ing] military custody” amounted to a “restriction of the President’s authority” to choose what to do with terrorism suspects. No mention of the disintegration of the fifth amendment’s due process clause appeared in the administration’s objection.

In response to this veto threat, the Senate revised the provisions mandating military custody and inserted the option of a waiver for American citizens; that is, the Executive branch would be allowed to waive the requirement to deprive suspects of their constitutional rights at their discretion.

As revealed in the Senate deliberations last week, the Obama administration itself requested the principal authors of the provision – John McCain and Carl Levin – to include language authorizing due-process-free military custody for American citizens. The initial threat of veto was apparently nothing more than political theater on the part of the White House.

“If President Obama signs this bill,” said Laura W. Murphy, director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office, ”it will damage both his legacy and America’s reputation for upholding the rule of law. The last time Congress passed indefinite detention legislation was during the McCarthy era and President Truman had the courage to veto that bill. We hope that the president will consider the long view of history before codifying indefinite detention without charge or trial.”

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

the Obama administration itself requested the principal authors of the provision – John McCain and Carl Levin – to include language authorizing due-process-free military custody for American citizens.

This "is" an open declaration of "war" on Americans by the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK GOVT !

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-15   7:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

My democrat congressman voted against this bill. I think he deserves a big WTGOOOOOO!


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Critter  posted on  2011-12-15   7:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#1)

This "is" an open declaration of "war" on Americans by the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK GOVT !

Nah, I don't see any jewzios hanging from the lamp posts. Everything is A-OK.

Go back to sleep, Duhmerikka.

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Esso  posted on  2011-12-15   8:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada, *libertarians*, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#0)

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freepatriot32  posted on  2011-12-15   8:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#1) (Edited)

the Obama administration itself requested the principal authors of the provision – John McCain and Carl Levin – to include language authorizing due-process-free military custody for American citizens.

This "is" an open declaration of "war" on Americans by the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK GOVT !

Gog and Magog war, to be exact.

McCain [Merovingian Lineage of 2008 Presidential Candidates]

"...McCain London Fundraiser Tied To Deported Russian Oligarch Harpers | Ken Silverstein | March 19, 2008 03:40 PM

John McCain is on a world tour, and after flunking Middle East Politics 101 on the Jordan leg of his trip, he's now on his way to London, where his campaign will hold a fundraising event. (For American citizens only as foreigners can't contribute.) Proper attire for the luncheon affair is "lounge wear," according to the Washington Post, which also reported that the event will be held at Spencer House on St. James's Place, "by kind permission" of Lord Rothschild and Nathaniel Rothschild....."

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Obama [Merovingian Lineage of Presidential Candidates]

"...Obama’s visit to Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial

“Many people are convinced that Middle East policy will change dramatically under Obama. Don’t count on it. In the last few weeks, Obama appointed Dennis Ross to a “prominent advisory role” in dealing with the conflict. The soft spoken Ross is “the founder of an AIPAC-sponsored pro-Israel think-tank.” His politics are somewhere just slightly to the right of Ariel Sharon. There’s no reason for optimism.

“Obama is following the well-worn path of 100 per cent, unwavering support for Israel and the Zionist project. His trip to Israel just proves that he is a skillful politician thoroughly devoid of character. Is this the “hope we can believe in”?”...."

http://watch.pair.com/dragon-lineage.html

This is also how they intend to sneak in the Jewish inquisition under the INTERNATIONAL Jewish Noahide Laws, just in time for Christmas [ www.public-action.com/christmas.html ] ....remember Jewish CORPUSA "Law" says the Noahide Laws are the "rock" on which this country was founded....and you're either with them, or you're with the terrorists. Jesus said you're either with Him, or you scatter abroad. bible.cc/matthew/12-30.htm

I guess it's time for everyone to make a choice between allegience to Gog and Magog [ http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm ] in this final battle, or Jesus Christ.

Yisraelim prepare to invade the One True Zion [America http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55421 ] ..... http://www.samliquidation.com/nassi_3.htm

[Ezekiel 38-39/Revelation 20:7-9: "beloved city" = bible.cc/psalms/87-2.htm /Zechariah 2:4 I will create Jerusalem as towns without walls for all the men and cattle thereof.....5and I myself will be a wall of fire around her, and the glory within her. ]

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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-12-15   9:01:45 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

Great Post !

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-15   9:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#6)

thank you!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-12-15   9:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-15   9:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ada (#0)

Every traitor who voted for this bill NEEDS to be and HAS to be defeated at election, if they still plan on HAVING elections.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-12-15   12:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FormerLurker (#9)

Every traitor who voted for this bill NEEDS to be and HAS to be defeated at election, if they still plan on HAVING elections.

Every traitor who voted for this bill NEEDS to be Hung. Those merely mentioning indefinite detention of Americans without due process needs to be defeated at election.

"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."

noone222  posted on  2011-12-16   8:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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