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Title: Ron Paul on Hannity (Post Debate Interview)
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Published: Dec 16, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-12-16 17:42:36 by christine
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#1. To: christine (#0)
Sham sucks and blows, bump
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson The Smear Campaign Begins! ------------ * The Wall Street Journal * POTOMAC WATCH * DECEMBER 16, 2011 Why Ron Paul Can't Win The candidate's problem isn't better-funded opponent or media bias—it's his own views on foreign policy. By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL Ron Paul is, in many ways, the ideal candidate for a conservative electorate hungry for a principled GOP nominee. Ron Paul will never be the GOP nominee. For this, Mr. Paul has himself to blame. In his third run for president, and only a few weeks out from the 2012 Iowa caucuses, the Texas congressman has become the sleeper news of this nomination fight. Polls show him with real strength in Iowa, and stories are brimming with speculation about how the ardent libertarian might pull off a victory there, or how he might command crucial support in Western states, or how all this might upend the Romney-Gingrich narrative. It's fun as far as it goes, but it misses the world. Or, rather, it misses Mr. Paul's unpopular foreign-policy views, which make him the ultimate self-limiting candidate. And what makes those views more notable is the candidate's stubborn refusal to modulate them—an obstinacy at odds with the rest of his 2012 campaign. Mr. Paul was largely written off in the past as an ideological crank, a man who ran primarily to have his views heard, and many political watchers have made the same mistake this time. But if there has been an overlooked theme in this race, it has been Mr. Paul's new seriousness about winning the nomination. The Ron Paul of 2012 is a different candidate from the Ron Paul of the past. Aware that his absolutist positions worry voters, the libertarian has been conducting a far more mainstream campaign. Not that he's flipped on any major positions. The Paul campaign knows that its greatest opportunity is attracting voters who are dissatisfied with the other front-runners' policy timidity or lack of consistency. Mr. Paul is neither timid nor inconsistent, and it ought to make him a star. Nicknamed the "intellectual godfather" of the tea party movement, he's held the same views about limited government since before his first election in 1976. Those views are behind his platform today to slash $1 trillion from the federal government, to eliminate five federal cabinet agencies, to cut the corporate tax rate and get rid of taxes on capital gains and dividends, and to repeal everything from ObamaCare to Sarbanes-Oxley. The difference in the 2012 Paul campaign is instead one of a maturing tone and emphasis. Consider: The Ron Paul who in 1988 ran for president as a Libertarian spoke pugnaciously of abolishing "unconstitutional" entitlements such as Social Security and Medicare. The Ron Paul of 2008 acknowledged these entitlements could not go away overnight and argued for an opt-out. The Ron Paul of today still holds those positions but is now at great pains to stress that his budget plan is in fact the only one that would "save" entitlements like Social Security and Medicare for current retirees. He's toned down his calls to legalize drugs. He wrote an October USA Today op-ed reassuring parents they'd retain (in the near term) student loans. Whereas Mr. Paul still despises income taxes and wants to kill off the IRS, he now concedes this might require reform of the existing system, and he promises to extend the Bush tax cuts. Organizationally, the 2012 Paul campaign has also sloughed off its 2008 disdain of the establishment, and in Iowa at least Mr. Paul is engaging in retail politics, sitting down with party elders and activists. These are the efforts of a candidate newly willing to work within a certain framework, if it means a shot at the White House. Except on foreign policy, where Mr. Paul does himself in. In discrete areas, Mr. Paul's "noninterventionist" approach resonates with those weary of war, or with the populist sentiment that we spend too much on foreign aid. And note that Mr. Paul has made small stabs at reassuring voters of his patriotism, as with a big national TV ad that highlighted his own military service and commitment to veterans. But none of this has addressed voters' big concern over a Paul philosophy that fundamentally denies American exceptionalism and refuses to allow for decisive action to protect the U.S. homeland. Perhaps nothing hurt the candidate more in 2008 than his declaration that one reason terrorists attacked us on 9/11 is because "we've been in the Middle East." Far from toning down such views, Mr. Paul has amped up the wattage, claiming this year that 9/11 prompted "glee" in a Bush administration looking for a pretext to "invade Iraq." He's condemned the Obama administration's killings of terrorists Osama bin Laden and Anwar al-Awlaki, and he insists the U.S. is "provoking" Iran. For foreign-policy hawks, this is a disqualifier. It explains why a Washington Post-ABC poll in late September showed that Mr. Paul drew some of his weakest numbers from his own base. Of the 25% of voters who viewed him favorably, nearly two-thirds did not identify themselves as Republicans. Among self-identified "conservative Republicans," only 8% gave him a "strongly favorable" rating. You don't win a GOP nomination with figures like this. Even mainstream Democrats and independents have no time for Mr. Paul's brand of isolationism, which is why his national numbers remain stuck around 10%. Mr. Paul's new strategy has been to assail opponents like Mr. Gingrich, hoping to remind voters of his rivals' flaws. But the bar to Mr. Paul's campaign is not his opponents, or their money, or (a frequent Paul complaint) media bias. Because he can't, or won't, accommodate his own foreign policy views to those of the nation, there is only one bar to a Ron Paul victory: Mr. Paul. Write to kim@wsj.com
Most people that I know are completely against our perpetual wars. It's just insanity. Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson Why was Hannity so concerned that RP might run as an Independent that he almost jammed the words in Ron's mouth ? The winning Party gets to steal the greater amount of your tax money for themselves "and their cronies." The republicraps know that should Ron Paul run as the Independent Party candidate that if he doesn't outright win the election he will quash any chance they (Rs) may have had. Ron Paul is the only Republican that can defeat Obama and if he splits the conservative vote and takes the pro-constitution and anti-war vote the Rino Party will get their heads handed to them. The Dems will spend their cash (and they have a shit-load) exposing the socialist scumbags, the religious fanatics, the Washington insiders, and others currently trying to look conservative to such a degree that Obama might win in a LANDSIDE. I don't care much for left leaning but HONEST Dennis Kucinich but if Ron Paul took him as Vice-President on the Independent Ticket - It's adios 2 Party scum - WAR IS OVER - LOCK DOWN THE FED (I think I'm gettin a woody) brb ! EDIT: By the way, neither Paul or Kucinich owe their respective Party's a fucking thing, nothing, nada ... this would be a ROCKY movie knowing how ill treated these two have been for so long. "Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."
Hannity is stupid enough to have not known that Hal Turner was an obvious plant. Nothing he says has any credibility based on that one fact.
I know I read somewhere that Hannity was charged with being a racist years ago in his early days of being a radio jock. "Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."
Ron Paul - potus Jesse Ventura - veep Andrew Napolitano - AG Gary Johnson - SoS Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson Ron Paul - potus Jesse Ventura - veep Andrew Napolitano - AG Gary Johnson - SoS I could live with that ticket. I really don't like Kucinich but the Dems love him. Ventura would do. All we need are some "real" "honest" men of integrity. Not more of the same old tired bullshit. "Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."
Amen. This would be a line in the sand ticket...a real choice for positive change here. Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson A racist? HORRORS! ; )
I ain't holdin my breath but I could sure appreciate a return to sanity. "Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."
I was merely pointing out his (Hannity's) hypocrisy ... Frankly, I like whites the best myself - cause I'm white ... so fucking what ! "Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."
In this crazy culture, common sense is labeled racism.
KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL Let me guess which Khazarian Tribe dear Kimberly belongs to? The Israel Uber Alles crowd dislikes Ron Paul because he would cut foreign without preference thus meaning Israel's Welfare Check. Why should the citizens of the United States be taxed to support a foreign nation whose economic socialist policies guarantee a non-viable economy? It is time for Israel to move out of the house, get a job, and support their own ass. Neither is it or should it be our responsibility to spend our kids blood and taxpayer's money to prop up the geopolitical designs of a racist militaristic expansionist country with one of the worst human rights records on the planet. Because it is a way to discredit Ron Paul as a Republican running for the Republican nomination. Vannity's handlers know that a third party is not viable under our rigged against outsiders election laws. Nope, it's not. Well said. Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson The lower right corner of the video sez "Post-Debate Spin Room". Well, Sean Hannity was spinning like a dreidel....
#2. To: christine, ALL (#0)
#3. To: TwentyTwelve (#2)
what garbage - i can't believe that i read it all -
#4. To: christine (#0)
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#5. To: christine (#0)
#6. To: bluegrass (#5)
Nothing he says has any credibility based on that one fact.
#7. To: noone222, 4 (#4)
my dream ticket -
#8. To: Lod (#7)
my dream ticket -
#9. To: noone222 (#8)
All we need are some "real" "honest" men of integrity. Not more of the same old tired bullshit.
#10. To: noone222 (#6)
#11. To: Lod (#9)
This would be a line in the sand ticket...a real choice for positive change here.
#12. To: bluegrass (#10)
A racist? HORRORS! ; )
#13. To: noone222 (#12)
#14. To: TwentyTwelve, all (#2)
The Smear Campaign Begins!
#15. To: noone222 (#4)
Why was Hannity so concerned that RP might run as an Independent that he almost jammed the words in Ron's mouth ?
#16. To: Original_Intent (#14)
Neither is it or should it be our responsibility to spend our kids blood and taxpayer's money to prop up the geopolitical designs of a racist militaristic expansionist country with one of the worst human rights records on the planet.
#17. To: christine (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#18. To: bluegrass (#13)
In this crazy culture, common sense is rare. In this crazy culture, common sense is labeled racism.
"Anyone intent upon achieving "smaller government" should consider quitting the current fraud."
#19. To: Lod (#7)
One name is missing from your "Dream Ticket". Jim Traficant! "Ole Jim" has a great big Axe to grind with the Jewish loving neocons who stripped him of his house seat and falsely imprisoned him for seven years. my dream ticket -
#20. To: ambi (#19)
Bump for Jim Traficant!!
-Alex Kurtagic
#21. To: ambi (#19)
how soon we forget... traficant badmouthed israel on alex jones, and was never heard from again... which is bad enough, but traficant's pandering to alex jones makes it even worse... all that groveling didnt get him a return invitation. alex jones has built himself a nice little slimepit... you got to wonder how much slime rubs off on ron paul from his appearances with alex.. sure, you got to have exposure, but when does the price get too steep? Jim Traficant!
#22. To: bluegrass (#13)
hey, jamie, good to see you!
#23. To: bluegrass (#5)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
—Samuel Adams
#24. To: bluegrass (#13)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
—Samuel Adams
#25. To: noone222 (#6)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
—Samuel Adams
#26. To: christine (#22)
Back at ya, sis. Merry Christmas and I hope 2012 is a healthy and prosperous one for you and yern!
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