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Here are a couple of books written by a regression hypnotist that stumbled onto this topic. It goes well beyond the standard past life regressions. If you want to know why people are the way they are, and why life is so difficult, and what happens after death, this is a possible answer that goes well beyond the "you must have FAITH, my child!" nonsense. To me, this has the "ring of truth", based on what I already see and know, but your mileage may vary. This remarkable book uncovers--for the first time--the mystery of life in the spirit world after death on earth. Dr. Michael Newton, a hypnotherapist in private practice, has developed his own hypnosis technique to reach his subjects' hidden memories of the hereafter. The resulting narrative acts as a progressive "travel log" of the accounts of twenty-nine people who were placed in a state of superconsciousness. While in deep hypnosis, these subjects movingly describe what has happened to them between their former reincarnations on earth. They reveal graphic details about how it feels to die, who meets us right after death, what the spirit world is really like, where we go and what we do as souls, and why we choose to come back in certain bodies. www.megaupload.com/?d=VXXOFIL1 Michael Newton is one of a handful of published researchers who is adding to our knowledge of life between lives through the use of hypnosis. In coming decades, this kind of research should build and expand until we have a detailed understanding of life on the higher dimensions. In this book he continues his years of investigations, taking us further into an understanding of the soul's journey in and out of incarnation. Some topics covered in this book are (1) The various ways recently deceased souls try to make contact with those left behind, (2) How our spiritual energy is restored after a difficult incarnation or traumatic death, (3) How our between-life vocations can manifest in our earthly careers, (4) More on colors as indications of levels of attainment, (5) Spiritual names, (6) Much more on our soul groups, and how we interact between and during incarnations, (7) The "Council of Elders", a review panel of higher beings who help us gain insight on our lives just after we complete one, and just before we begin a new one, (8)How souls are "born" from higher levels into the level we spend time in between lives, (9) Extensive case studies of the "library" of past lives which souls study in between lifetimes. With Newton's work and those of similar investigators we are finally gaining an understanding of life in higher dimensions based on research and first-hand reports, rather than speculation and belief. Other than Newton's work, two other good books along this line are out of print, but generally not hard to find. One is LIFE BETWEEN LIVES (1986) by Whitton and Fisher. That book also follows the case-study approach. A second book is EXPLORING REINCARNATION (1987) by Hans Tendam. This book is a rigorous summary of the whole subject of past lives, life between lives, and the reliability of hypnosis as a tool of investigation. It's not a light read, but is the most in depth and thorough book on the subject to date, and essential reading for anyone who wishes to become well informed about it. If you want them, I suggest reading them in order. The 2nd book builds on the first book.
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#85. To: purplerose (#50)
There is such phenomena that truly exists...Research, "Remote Viewing" which has been the subject of both Soviet and American military scientists. This kind of communication (or telepathy) is used in "divining" water and oil locations around the world - even from thousands of miles away. Or divining the location of "secret" locations of dead bodies....or others that have military applications. Whose power does it tap? Man's? Or other metaphysical entities? That leaves either God OR Satan (demonic). agree. i'm finding it intriquing.
Prove that there is surrender of ones "fire wall" under hypnosis, and the dire consequences that you list. The human psyche has several layers of a "fire wall." A simple example of the wall coming down would be upon imbibing alcohol. Deeper intrusion and hijacking is facilitated by hypnosis where manipulation can be insidious as your will is surrendered to whichever force is allowed to fill the void. Arguably, the victims of this are facilitated by certain drugs, shamans, seers, fortune tellers, occultists, mystics, satanists, and other psychic techniques. Some result in spiritual brainwashing or level of spiritual possession. I know people who've sworn they've also "seen" UFOs and "ghosts". I believe them. They've also "seen" Mary; Seen pictures MOVE. Of Mary. (Multiple witnesses in that case.) HEARD Mary speak. I'd been given transcript. NO "Mary" would have uttered the words attributed to her. So what has been seen and heard? Or manipulated by the spirit world? Demons work in this world only to deceive man into believing in his own deity or the "lie" of one mortal life as they provide afterlife options to the one and only God and His Law. IMO. Apples and oranges. Alcohol and drugs impair brain function. Ones will is not surrendered in hypnosis. The conscious mind is still active. Arguably, the victims of this are facilitated by certain drugs, shamans, occultists, mystics, satanists, and other psychic techniques. Some result in spiritual brainwashing. Spiritual brainwashing? There is no such thing. Brainwashing works with the physical brain, not the spirit. Brainwashing techniques involve sensory / sleep deprivation, yelling and screaming, physical abuse, etc. None of that happens in a hypnosis session. But I am not an expert on hypnosis so I am not qualified to discuss that too much. I know much more about religion, especially christianity, having swum in that cesspool for 40+ years. Now that is brainwashing, because it fucks with a persons mind, and it's hard to beat permanently. -------------------------------------------------------- These days with the internet it makes it very possible to test the validity of alleged memories. Funny, but even my own brother claims HE was a WWII vet who died on the beach at Iwo Jima. FWIW, he's not "religious". If those of us concede that there's a metaphysical world that exists beyond tHIS physical world, why isn't demon possession possible? Why isn't the brain just a tool that's manipulated to accept false memory and mental/physical mirages in the sky (like UFO and Marian apparitions)? Like ghosts of Aunt Martha? That said, when a demon possesses the "memory" of a subject (such as events, people, places and things), such tests are invalid. Satan needs to convince man that death is NOT final. Memories of a "past" accomplish that. VIOLA! "Reincarnation" is SOLD. Sure. And so do drugs (i.e., LSD, 'shrooms, and even pot to a degree. "Reality" is altered in all the above cases. We've all heard Flip Wilson's "The devil made me do it!" He's made us do a lotta things while brain-impaired and the door to the spirit is ajar. Ones will is not surrendered in hypnosis. The conscious mind is still active. Is that why some subjects bark like dogs and and scratch like chickens in demonstrations? Will IS surrendered. That is why some people can NOT be hypnotized. Some measure of the will resists certain commands, obviously, but hypnosis is very dangerous because other-worldly entities can enter the subject's psyche during the procedure. I am not an expert on hypnosis so I am not qualified to discuss that too much. I know much more about religion, especially christianity, having swum in that cesspool for 40+ years. Now that is brainwashing, because it fucks with a persons mind, and it's hard to beat permanently. I reckon the "mind-f**ker" is in the eye or spirit of the beholder. All who call themselves "Christians" are obviously NOT. But to broadbrush Christianity as a "cesspool" that "f***s with a person's mind" means you've been deceived by the wrong "Christians," OR you've just totally surrendered your soul in the aftermath. Satan's victory is those who give up on Jesus and his Gospel. Jesus isn't a "religion." Spiritual brainwashing? There is no such thing. Brainwashing works with the physical brain, not the spirit. We see this in politics. We see it in cults. The brain is a processor, and yes, the spirit dwells outside the brain. But the physical may still affect the spirit. Brainwashing techniques involve sensory / sleep deprivation, yelling and screaming, physical abuse, etc. None of that happens in a hypnosis session. Now that's "apples and oranges". Nope. I just read the "good book" for myself. Instead of listening to people say things like "God is love" and "God knows all", etc, I decided to read it for myself. But it didnt sink in immediately because some things remained all too easy to gloss over because it went directly against a lifetime of programming (like the tremendous amount of death and destruction that is everywhere in that "good book"). It took time. Now I know better. Your so-called "true christianity" and the bible are not compatible. I know why you are doing this. It's because you believe you are doing the right thing. I bet you think that I am leading people straight into the pit of "hell". But even those that claim to believe in this "hell", really don't, because to believe this is to know that there are loved ones that will end up there, and this would literally drive a nice and decent person insane. Plus, I dont have the power to lead anyone anywhere. If you think reincarnation and hypnosis is BS and "evil", that is your right. -------------------------------------------------------- I found this concerning this subject which once again I will put forth, it is a concept almost as old as the written word in human history. It comes from this site here which is an interesting read for anyone interested in the spiritual side of this subject. reluctant-messenger.com/dance-of-shiva.htm Cosmic Dance of Shiva God and his creation are One. Yet God hides himself from his creation to give himself the joy of discovering God. God is both Creator and the Created. This is also known as the Wisdom of Balance. The Uncreated God and The Created God are One, yet the creation is attached to the grand illusion of separateness. Whenever God's creation discovers God, God discovers himself all over again. God delights in the dance of hiding and discovering his glory. The Cosmic Dance of Shiva. Your life is your part in this awesome Cosmic Dance. Your birth begins with your God Consciousness hid from you. If you have not discovered your unlimited potential in this life you will die, and your soul will go to the unseen state awaiting its chance for another birth. This is the gem of knowledge known as Reincarnation.
Dr. Newton addresses much of this in the videos posted above. Watch in particular #2. I'd like to hear your impression. I realize though that all is simply a matter of faith and belief.
So you don't believe that there is an afterlife, or that the soul is immortal? Are you saying that the bible is the word of satan? i can so relate to that. who made the decisions on which books were canonized? mortal men, that's who, some of which had political and self-serving motivations. I came to that realization back in my early teen years. A book is just a book. God doesn't write books. You "know better" than whom?? "Dopey Holy Rollers"?? Bible scholars?? Simple people who understand the context of the Bible through both the Old and New Testament? The Bible is not intended to be read as a novel. If you choose to dwell on context you don't understand or "the tremendous amount of death and destruction" in the Old Testament, then at least find a Pastor who can explain it to you. What have you to lose? All one needs to to do is dwell upon is the Gospel of Jesus Christ, His promise of Everlasting Life, and His fulfillment of the prophecies. "Religion"? Not so much. I bet you think that I am leading people straight into the pit of "hell". Not at all. I know why you are doing this. It's because you believe you are doing the right thing. I'm commenting on this subject because I have personal and secondhand experience and knowledge in the subject of the metaphysical, metaphychic phenomena that transcends this physical world. Hypnosis is real, dangerous, and can invoke contrived regressive "memory" OR hijack/misguide the human conscious and spirit. So can New Age and Eastern mysticism, LSD, Deepak Chopra, Paul Crouch, and Oprah. But even those that claim to believe in this "hell", really don't, because to believe this is to know that there are loved ones that will end up there, and this would literally drive a nice and decent person insane. In the end, we are all personally responsible for the destination of our own respective soul. This physical world is a real test and challenge - even for "Believers". In the Kingdom God has promised there will be NO memory of tears, pain, or of "reassigned" loved ones OR hated ones. Our task here is rejecting deception and focusing ourselves and others on The Truth. If you think reincarnation and hypnosis is BS and "evil", that is your right. It's not BS; But they aren't benign - and neither is fortune telling or those who claim "Mary" is speaking to her "children" in Medjorgoie. They are ALL spiritual deceptions. Thanks. I'll check it out when I can...Gotta go in a few. I do. , or that the soul is immortal? It can be. Are you saying that the bible is the word of satan? Let me know when you're serious. Well perhaps I didn't quite understand what you were saying. Your words were, "Satan needs to convince man that death is NOT final." Yet you now claim to believe the opposite. So which is it? Those souls who have been associated with evil are taken to special centers which some clients call "intensive care units." Here, I am told, their energy is remodeled to make it whole again. Gawd, Christine - you mean stuff like THIS?? "Told" by *whom*?? "There is no hell for souls, except perhaps on Earth." I need not read further. This guy is a Deceiver, promoting the Great Lie. I guess the gist of all this is, is that Jesus Christ and His Salvation is the Lie, and Satan's so-called karmic "justice" rules the day. Satan needs to convince man that he returns to earth in the form of ghosts or reincarnation, or as snails. This belief makes the Gospel of Jesus Christ a lie, as well as His Final Judgment. There is no Second Chance on earth as a mortal being, nor second chance as one pays penance in some ethereal waiting room like Purgatory or amongst a Council of Angels. How do YOU know what Jesus Christ, if he actually existed, said 2000 years ago? Do you really think those with the power to decide what was going to be included in the New Testament would allow things contrary to THEIR desires to be called "the word of God"? If you research the actual facts concerning the life of Jesus, you'll find he most likely was an Essene. Essenes were a highly spiritual Jewish sect, who believed in REINCARNATION. Roman Catholic Christianity is the work of Paul, not of the true disciples. All modern day versions of Christianity derive from the Roman Catholic Church. Here's some info if you're interested. Ok, it's ALL been a giant hoax and CT. Happy now? Here's some info if you're interested. I'm NOT. Maybe we can find common ground in politics. But even there I doubt it. Satan needs to convince man that he returns to earth in the form of ghosts or reincarnation, or as snails. This belief makes the Gospel of Jesus Christ a lie, as well as His Final Judgment. That is an irrational belief. You believe what your pastor says as if he's God Himself. That, and you think men who wrote about God ordering them to kill men, women, and children (including babies) are actually speaking for God. 1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. - 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version There is no Second Chance on earth as a mortal being, nor second chance as one pays penance in some ethereal waiting room like Purgatory or amongst a Council of Angels. Excuse me, but that is very close to what Christianity teaches in terms of Purgatory. As far as what a loving God of the Universe would do, do you really think He (or She) would torture souls forever if they made some mistakes in their incarnate lives? That idea derives from the evil bastards who wrote the verses you so revere. Back then, torturing people to death in various horrific and gruesome ways was accepted practice. The authors projected their own twisted dreams into the "scriptures", in order to control the "flock" and keep them in line. Since the seat of world government WAS the church for millenia, their plans worked quite well. It STILL works for those who wish to exert control over the world population, quite obviously. Every religion is a "guess" by those doing the writing as to why we are here. So I suppose you could say EVERY religion is a "hoax". In reality, God never wrote a word, yet people CLAIM to be able to write for Him and speak for Him. You choose to believe those people, good for you. But don't be stomping your feet if sane people don't wish to nuke Iran just because your insane masters tell you it "must be done" in order to protect Israel, or to bring about the 2nd Coming. And how do you know that the "Dopey Holy Rollers" aren't the true christians? Every christian believes they are True Christians. Others that believe differently are either simply mistaken, ignorant, heretics, or are on their way to hell. If you choose to dwell on context you don't understand or "the tremendous amount of death and destruction" in the Old Testament, then at least find a Pastor who can explain it to you. What have you to lose? I laughed out loud when I read that. They'll say that it is "perfect justice", that god demands repentance etc. Sorry, but to use one example, murdering >50,000 people because someone looked into a box is not my idea of perfect justice. THrowing people into "eternal hell" because they don't love me or obey me is not anyones idea of perfect justice. I, a Satanist, am more merciful than "god". Ironic, huh? In the end, we are all personally responsible for the destination of our own respective soul. This physical world is a real test and challenge - even for "Believers". In the Kingdom God has promised there will be NO memory of tears, pain, or of "reassigned" loved ones OR hated ones. Our task here is rejecting deception and focusing ourselves and others on The Truth. How nice. You'll forget all about those people burning in hell, because god is a real sweetheart. Believe what you want. Look at post #1, and the title of the thread. NOwhere did I say "This is true". I did say however that IMO it has the ring of truth to it. You can believe that everyone is deceived but yourself, if you want to. But don't be surprised that you get resistance when you try and tell others what's what. You're not telling me anything I didn't already hear, and tell other people. Where you are now, I was already there. -------------------------------------------------------- A simple example of the wall coming down would be upon imbibing alcohol. Deeper intrusion and hijacking is facilitated by hypnosis where manipulation can be insidious as your will is surrendered to whichever force is allowed to fill the void. Arguably, the victims of this are facilitated by certain drugs, shamans, seers, fortune tellers, occultists, mystics, satanists, and other psychic techniques. Some result in spiritual brainwashing or level of spiritual possession. I would agree that our level of alertness certainly varies. We are sometimes fully awake and alert regarding our surroundings, and sometimes not when our conscienceness is subdued, such as when we are sick, sleepy, drunk, drugged or at church on Sunday morning :^) For what it's worth, as far as hypnosis goes, Newton claims that it cannot be used to program people to do things immediately contrary to their own interests, such as flinging themselves off a cliff. He says that even in a hypnotic state, we will only go along with things that we want to do, and turning people into zombies is the stuff of Hollywood only. That's what he says, for what it's worth. I don't know.
It is mind boggling isn't it. I guess humanity has always had it's share of morons. I really don't mean that as a slight, it's just the accurate term for those of slow wit that has been bastardized and used as a slang insult in more recent history. It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
lol. sunday sermons and tv evangelists use so much nlp and covert hypnosis its hilarious. show me someone who thinks they're in control and aren't likely to be hypnotized, and i'll entrance them and have them handing me their wallet while they thank me. “Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,
Well here's where things get interesting. You say, in your opinion, demons are around. But why do you believe this? If we are debating beliefs back and forth, then nothing will be accomplished. What makes Newton's perception so unusual is that they are proported to be based on what subjects under hypnosis tell him, and not based on revelations spoken to him in his own dreams and meditations, which is pretty much the basis of how just about every founder of religion claims to know the truth. When Newton says that all of his clients whom he questioned on the matter say demons do not exist, and he's got recordings and transcripts to back it up, what do you do with that? You either have to accept it or come up with an explanation as to how they all say such a thing when it's not true, and even beyond that, how so many people could say the same thing, even given diverse backgrounds and religious beliefs. Either Newton is a fraud or his clients are all being manipulated by some spiritual force to say things that are not true. If you'd want to take either position I'll respect that, but some explanation is needed to explain Newton's portrayal of the universe.
jehovah, alien babylonian demi urge 'diety': racist (chosen people), bloodthirsty (requires killing of living creatures), jealous (says not to worship other gods, not that they're ARENT any, but none before 'him', hate filled (kills and burns with anger those who don't agree), is ritualistic (complex and idiotic codex of behavior that one must follow), is draconian (permanent punishment for temporal violations of a code impossible to follow). the gnostics knew that was no Supreme Being; it was an evil, spiteful entity they termed the 'demi urge'. scooby doo bullshit based on fear, guilt, revenge (eye for eye) and damnation.....vs. new testament, based on love, forgiveness and grace. not to tough to figure out the darkside spawn ginned up this fear shit that, gee whiz, coicidentally just happens to make them the chosen ones, so dingbat fundie pinheads will toe the line and give em everything they want, while never bothering to read the talmud that gives the more accurate picture of the contempt they're held in by these 'chosen types'...who regard them as cattle. duh...the demiurge regards this as a human farm, with a group designated as overseers to manage the herd. (gasp...no! not that. Whats that in Isiah about coming to set the captives free? hmmm....lets watch Hagee and he'll tell us) not really that tough to figure out. “Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,
I remember reading a report that addresses this. I have no link handy though so take it for what you think it's worth. THey hooked up a TV that would automatically turn off based on brain waves. When they entered altered states, off goes the boob tube. No one could keep it on for more than 30 seconds. -------------------------------------------------------- It shouldn't be, but it is hard to figure out, especially when people are raised with it. Most people will never leave it. Which is OK, so long as they don't try and recruit others into their misery. So much for the 'great commission', huh? lol If they want to believe that they are born as unworthy pieces of shit, who am I to stop them? The only ones that benefit from that are the kikes that started it, and their henchmen parasites that benefit from it. I can't do anything to stop this. -------------------------------------------------------- According to Newton "demons" in the religious sense do not exist. Having said that, possession of a body/mind is something that all souls do, so in that sense, we could say that the souls of you and I are demons because we each possess our respective bodies. Our bodies *are* possessed -- by our souls. I'm sure a christian would then suggest that demons could/would intrude upon the body and share it somehow, that that is the meaning of demon possession. Newton reports that the word he gets is that one soul cannot take over a body that his held by another soul, so presumably "demons" would be similarly restricted. Having said *that*, Newton does not claim to have all the answers of what goes on in the spirit world, so I'd say there is room in his portrayal of things for strange entities to exist. Even so, having read 2 of his books, I'd guess his sentiment is that demons run contrary to everything he's ever heard depicted about earth and the spirit world. Okay, maybe. But if deception is possible, then how do you know you were not deceived about the existence of Satan? Why do you accept the perception of the world as depicted by one source but not another contrary source?
I hope this is true because I'd be heartbroken if I won't ever see my beloved Budgies Wheetie and Marty, or my cat Ootie again. While I don't believe in reincarnation I have always hoped that God made provisions for the animals too. I have had some pets who were very dear to me and it makes me hope that the story about the Rainbow Bridge is true. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
I say POSSESSION. DECEPTION. When Newton says that all of his clients whom he questioned on the matter say demons do not exist, and he's got recordings and transcripts to back it up, what do you do with that? Simple. LIES facilitated by DEMONS who by definition are LIARS and DECEIVERS. What's credible about a conscious that's been hijacked by metaphysical beings? ...based on revelations spoken to him in his own dreams and meditations, which is pretty much the basis of how just about every founder of religion claims to know the truth. No other "Founder of Religion" matters except the Bible, whose centuries-old prophesies CAN be backed up, along with it's Redeemer and his Gospel. NOTHING compares to the Christian tenets and documentation, Christ's miracles, His character witnesses, His Sermon in the Mount, his End Game in MORE detail than the Plan of the God of Abraham and the Redeemer of sin, and the His Kingdom Don't believe it, fine. Faith, an open mind, spiritual manna, and final destination of your soul is your responsibility - no one elses. When Newton says that all of his clients whom he questioned on the matter say demons do not exist, and he's got recordings and transcripts to back it up, what do you do with that? You either have to accept it or come up with an explanation as to how they all say such a thing when it's not true, and even beyond that, how so many people could say the same thing, even given diverse backgrounds and religious beliefs. So your claiming science and the testimony manipulating a bunch of spiritual guinea pigs exposing their respective conscious to hypnotic trances and demon manipulation means THE SECRET IS EXPOSED!! NO DEATH! NO HELL! KARMA! NO HEAVEN! Hey, if you believe all that "proof" of the ultimate alternative death mulligan, then go ahead. I'll just say the realm of the metaphysical is teeming with unseen power. STRONG power. I have witnessed personally forces and assaults. Conversely, the Armor of God is real in this realm as well. Some of us find ourselves tuned to a certain frequency that transcends the physical on BOTH sides. Told by people who are under hypnosis. That is one thing about Newton that should be respected (assuming he's not fraudulent, of course). The spirit world he portrays is based on what his clients tell him while they are under hypnosis, so he's just the messenger. That is your choice. I choose to be openminded. If not a fraud, then a mere messenger. Perhaps a messenger of lies, but if so, still just a messenger. Not necessarily. Newton admits to not having the full picture. It's possible that the life of Jesus was real and his original message and mission was true. It may yet fit into the picture by Newton. I do, however, agree that the Bible is not completely compatible with the model of the world portrayed by Newton, and therefore the idea of the Bible today is the "infallible Word of God" does not work with Newton. The Bible would need to be downgraded to the status of a collection of historic and virtuous writings that contain a lot of historic truth and good moral character.
I never heard about the Rainbow Bridge until I got involved in Pug Rescue and had to send a sick one over myself. "There are only 800,000 state, local, and federal law enforcement officers in the entire country." - Vox Day
Yet you claim ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that doesn't fit into your narrow understanding MUST be satanic or demonic. You deny hard evidence of actual physical objects, ignore historical facts, and believe a set of writings of dubious origin for no good reason other than that's what you've had drilled into you since you were an infant. Yeah, you have the "truth" all wrapped up, and KNOW that anything other than what you've been led to believe MUST be a lie. Now can you see why this world has always had misery, strife, and war? All that needs to be done is to say the "enemy" is "godless" or that they are "heretics". Or, just say God Himself ordered you to kill his enemies, since apparently he didn't feel like doing it himself. Why would the metaphysical have any restrictions or "laws"?? You either have to accept it or come up with an explanation as to how they all say such a thing when it's not true, and even beyond that, how so many people could say the same thing, even given diverse backgrounds and religious beliefs. To presume that Satan or his agents, demons are somehow limited in exercising massive mind-control is naive; History has proven over several centuries are the masses are controlled enmasse, like zombies. Evil and epidemic mind-sets of hundreds, thousands, millions have been rife. The power satan wields on the earth is mind-bioboggling. This fact hardly needed convincing or controlled laboratory subjects. Let me ask you this. Do you think those who ordered or performed the horrific medieval torture on men, women, and children were working for the devil, or for God? They ALL claimed to be doing the "work of God", but have you ever read the phrase, "Ye shall know them by their fruits. "? If you use that as a guide as to who is more "holy" or spiritual, and who is under the influence of evil, your eyes may open up. Your neutron bomb of splattered incoherent points address NOTHING in particular. You deny hard evidence of actual physical objects, ignore historical facts, and believe a set of writings of dubious origin for no good reason other than that's what you've had drilled into you since you were an infant. And the "hard evidence of actual physical objects" is WHAT again? "Historical facts" you allude to is WHAT again?? The "belief in a set of writings of dubious origin for no good reason other than that's what you've had drilled into you since you were an infant" I assume is the Bible. YOU say it's "dubious". YOUR "credentials" please? YOUR Bible scholarship" please? The empirical proof and witnessing of the accounts of Jesus Christ FOUR Apostles and countless other historical witnesses is discredited by WHOM?? The Prophecies are discredited by WHOM?? YOUR case is supported in quick sand and deception by a metaphysical world of demons you believe is populated by benevolent karmic being whose deceptive encouragement is: BELIEVE OUR WITNESSES WHO SAY THERE IS NO GOD, NO REDEMPTION, NO SIN. NO HEAVEN. JUST rest assured that the reports from Dr. Newton and his lab-rat Zombies that Spiritual Egalitarianism in the Social Services Office run by a blue ribbon panel including Captain Kirk, Spock, Gandhi, Mother Teresa, is alive and well. So relax - no need to pay attention to this Christian "God". Everything is His fault anyway. I never heard about the Rainbow Bridge until I got involved in Pug Rescue and had to send a sick one over myself. I don't KNOW that it's true--I said that I HOPE it is true. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
This idea is not intuitive to me. As babies grow into children their lucidity grows slowly. So when a child who has heard about God and Jesus on some semi-awareness level dies, does that child go to heaven or hell? Where do you draw the line between innocence and sinful guilt when there is no similar line of comprehension of the truth? Do you have a reasonable and spiritually just answer for this? And the word "chance" jumps out at me in your statement. Is life only about "chances" and opportunity? Does that sound like what God would offer people... "chances"? The world portrayed by Newton is one where all souls have a built in desire to excel to perfection. Free will is king. You do what you want, become what you want, as fast or as slowly as you want. You choose the lives you want, if any at all, and you choose how many you want. The common thread of all souls is the desire to become greater than they are, and disappointment when we fail to do so. No, that's not proof of anything but to me is much more in line with how an awesome God would be. To me the idea of us being given "one chance" seems a very crude thing for an Almighty God to do.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestA late friend of mine who did scientific developmental research for the U.S. government, found telepathy communication to be of interest and even suggested trying it on me. He said that some things unspoken of, were better yet told by (telepathic) natural communication.
#86. To: bluegrass (#58)
Great thread.
#87. To: PSUSA2 (#84)
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"Those who allow it voluntarily surrender their spirit's "fire wall", making it susceptible to deceptive, untrusion (sic), manipulation, and possession - temporarily or permanently. ", then you have some explaining to do.
#88. To: PSUSA2 (#84)
(Edited)
One does not need psychic powerz to see UFOs because they are physical objects. I know that first hand. And ghosts too seem to be physical phenomena that can be picked up via various instruments.
#89. To: Liberator (#87)
A simple example of the wall coming down would be upon imbibing alcohol.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#90. To: Pinguinite, all (#3)
This subject has intrigued me since reading about that "soul surviver" kid who at some 9 years old allegedly recalls incredible detail of his life until he was shot down and killed during WWII, even remembering faces of shipmates well enough to recognize and name them at navy reunions 60 years after the fact.
#91. To: PSUSA2 (#89)
Apples and oranges. Alcohol and drugs impair brain function.
#92. To: Liberator (#91)
All who call themselves "Christians" are obviously NOT. But to broadbrush Christianity as a "cesspool" that "f***s with a person's mind" means you've been deceived by the wrong "Christians," OR you've just totally surrendered your soul in the aftermath.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#93. To: christine (#67)
#94. To: Liberator (#91)
#95. To: Liberator (#90)
Satan needs to convince man that death is NOT final. Memories of a "past" accomplish that. VIOLA! "Reincarnation" is SOLD.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#96. To: christine, Pinguinite (#70)
And then I wonder why the Bible should be accepted as the "Word of God". Some Christians believe the Bible is the "Word of God" because the Bible says it's the "Word of God", but obviously, self-certified authorship isn't valid.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#97. To: PSUSA2 (#92)
Instead of listening to people say things like "God is love" and "God knows all", etc, I decided to read it for myself. But it didnt sink in immediately because some things remained all too easy to gloss over because it went directly against a lifetime of programming (like the tremendous amount of death and destruction that is everywhere in that "good book"). It took time. Now I know better.
#98. To: christine (#94)
Dr. Newton addresses much of this in the videos posted above. Watch in particular #2. I'd like to hear your impression. I realize though that all is simply a matter of faith and belief.
#99. To: FormerLurker (#95)
So you don't believe that there is an afterlife...
#100. To: Liberator (#99)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#101. To: Christine, All (#98)
Special karmic issues are also reviewed, although they will be discussed later in minute detail within our soul cluster group...
#102. To: FormerLurker (#100)
#103. To: Liberator (#101)
(Edited)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#104. To: FormerLurker (#103)
How do YOU know what Jesus Christ, if he actually existed, said 2000 years ago?
#105. To: Liberator (#102)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#106. To: Liberator (#104)
(Edited)
Ok, it's ALL been a giant hoax and CT. Happy now?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#107. To: Liberator (#97)
(Edited)
You "know better" than whom?? "Dopey Holy Rollers"?? Bible scholars?? Simple people who understand the context of the Bible through both the Old and New Testament?
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#108. To: Liberator (#87)
(Edited)
The human psyche has several layers of a "fire wall."
#109. To: Liberator (#81)
And then there are still those who believe the "official 9/11 report
#110. To: Pinguinite (#108)
#111. To: Liberator (#88)
Demons work in this world only to deceive man into believing in his own deity or the "lie" of one mortal life as they provide afterlife options to the one and only God and His Law. IMO.
#112. To: PSUSA2 (#107)
#113. To: gengis gandhi (#110)
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#114. To: gengis gandhi (#112)
(Edited)
not really that tough to figure out.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#115. To: Liberator (#90)
If those of us concede that there's a metaphysical world that exists beyond tHIS physical world, why isn't demon possession possible?
Satan needs to convince man that death is NOT final. Memories of a "past" accomplish that. VIOLA! "Reincarnation" is SOLD.
#116. To: HOUNDDAWG (#80)
In the film AVATAR the Na'vi had a ritual they performed when they harvested a critter for victuals. The animal's soul went to be with Eywa, the guiding force and deity of Pandora and the Na'vi.
#117. To: Pinguinite (#111)
What makes Newton's perception so unusual is that they are proported to be based on what subjects under hypnosis tell him, and not based on revelations spoken to him in his own dreams and meditations, which is pretty much the basis of how just about every founder of religion claims to know the truth.
#118. To: Liberator (#101)
Those souls who have been associated with evil are taken to special centers which some clients call "intensive care units." Here, I am told, their energy is remodeled to make it whole again.
"Told" by *whom*??
"There is no hell for souls, except perhaps on Earth."
I need not read further.
This guy is a Deceiver, promoting the Great Lie.
I guess the gist of all this is, is that Jesus Christ and His Salvation is the Lie,
#119. To: James Deffenbach (#116)
the story about the Rainbow Bridge is true.
#120. To: Liberator (#117)
I'll just say the realm of the metaphysical is teeming with unseen power. STRONG power. I have witnessed personally forces and assaults. Conversely, the Armor of God is real in this realm as well. Some of us find ourselves tuned to a certain frequency that transcends the physical on BOTH sides.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#121. To: Pinguinite (#115)
When Newton says that all of his clients whom he questioned on the matter say demons do not exist, and he's got recordings and transcripts to back it up, what do you do with that? You either have to accept it or come up with an explanation as to how they all say such a thing when it's not true, and even beyond that, how so many people could say the same thing, even given diverse backgrounds and religious beliefs.
#122. To: Liberator (#121)
To presume that Satan or his agents, demons are somehow limited in exercising massive mind-control is naive; History has proven over several centuries are the masses are controlled enmasse, like zombies. Evil and epidemic mind-sets of hundreds, thousands, millions have been rife.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#123. To: FormerLurker (#120)
#124. To: Turtle (#119)
the story about the Rainbow Bridge is true.
#125. To: Liberator (#102)
There is no Second Chance on earth as a mortal being, nor second chance as one pays penance in some ethereal waiting room like Purgatory or amongst a Council of Angels.
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