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Here are a couple of books written by a regression hypnotist that stumbled onto this topic. It goes well beyond the standard past life regressions. If you want to know why people are the way they are, and why life is so difficult, and what happens after death, this is a possible answer that goes well beyond the "you must have FAITH, my child!" nonsense. To me, this has the "ring of truth", based on what I already see and know, but your mileage may vary. This remarkable book uncovers--for the first time--the mystery of life in the spirit world after death on earth. Dr. Michael Newton, a hypnotherapist in private practice, has developed his own hypnosis technique to reach his subjects' hidden memories of the hereafter. The resulting narrative acts as a progressive "travel log" of the accounts of twenty-nine people who were placed in a state of superconsciousness. While in deep hypnosis, these subjects movingly describe what has happened to them between their former reincarnations on earth. They reveal graphic details about how it feels to die, who meets us right after death, what the spirit world is really like, where we go and what we do as souls, and why we choose to come back in certain bodies. www.megaupload.com/?d=VXXOFIL1 Michael Newton is one of a handful of published researchers who is adding to our knowledge of life between lives through the use of hypnosis. In coming decades, this kind of research should build and expand until we have a detailed understanding of life on the higher dimensions. In this book he continues his years of investigations, taking us further into an understanding of the soul's journey in and out of incarnation. Some topics covered in this book are (1) The various ways recently deceased souls try to make contact with those left behind, (2) How our spiritual energy is restored after a difficult incarnation or traumatic death, (3) How our between-life vocations can manifest in our earthly careers, (4) More on colors as indications of levels of attainment, (5) Spiritual names, (6) Much more on our soul groups, and how we interact between and during incarnations, (7) The "Council of Elders", a review panel of higher beings who help us gain insight on our lives just after we complete one, and just before we begin a new one, (8)How souls are "born" from higher levels into the level we spend time in between lives, (9) Extensive case studies of the "library" of past lives which souls study in between lifetimes. With Newton's work and those of similar investigators we are finally gaining an understanding of life in higher dimensions based on research and first-hand reports, rather than speculation and belief. Other than Newton's work, two other good books along this line are out of print, but generally not hard to find. One is LIFE BETWEEN LIVES (1986) by Whitton and Fisher. That book also follows the case-study approach. A second book is EXPLORING REINCARNATION (1987) by Hans Tendam. This book is a rigorous summary of the whole subject of past lives, life between lives, and the reliability of hypnosis as a tool of investigation. It's not a light read, but is the most in depth and thorough book on the subject to date, and essential reading for anyone who wishes to become well informed about it. If you want them, I suggest reading them in order. The 2nd book builds on the first book.
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Every religion is a "guess" by those doing the writing as to why we are here. So I suppose you could say EVERY religion is a "hoax". In reality, God never wrote a word, yet people CLAIM to be able to write for Him and speak for Him. You choose to believe those people, good for you. But don't be stomping your feet if sane people don't wish to nuke Iran just because your insane masters tell you it "must be done" in order to protect Israel, or to bring about the 2nd Coming. And how do you know that the "Dopey Holy Rollers" aren't the true christians? Every christian believes they are True Christians. Others that believe differently are either simply mistaken, ignorant, heretics, or are on their way to hell. If you choose to dwell on context you don't understand or "the tremendous amount of death and destruction" in the Old Testament, then at least find a Pastor who can explain it to you. What have you to lose? I laughed out loud when I read that. They'll say that it is "perfect justice", that god demands repentance etc. Sorry, but to use one example, murdering >50,000 people because someone looked into a box is not my idea of perfect justice. THrowing people into "eternal hell" because they don't love me or obey me is not anyones idea of perfect justice. I, a Satanist, am more merciful than "god". Ironic, huh? In the end, we are all personally responsible for the destination of our own respective soul. This physical world is a real test and challenge - even for "Believers". In the Kingdom God has promised there will be NO memory of tears, pain, or of "reassigned" loved ones OR hated ones. Our task here is rejecting deception and focusing ourselves and others on The Truth. How nice. You'll forget all about those people burning in hell, because god is a real sweetheart. Believe what you want. Look at post #1, and the title of the thread. NOwhere did I say "This is true". I did say however that IMO it has the ring of truth to it. You can believe that everyone is deceived but yourself, if you want to. But don't be surprised that you get resistance when you try and tell others what's what. You're not telling me anything I didn't already hear, and tell other people. Where you are now, I was already there. -------------------------------------------------------- A simple example of the wall coming down would be upon imbibing alcohol. Deeper intrusion and hijacking is facilitated by hypnosis where manipulation can be insidious as your will is surrendered to whichever force is allowed to fill the void. Arguably, the victims of this are facilitated by certain drugs, shamans, seers, fortune tellers, occultists, mystics, satanists, and other psychic techniques. Some result in spiritual brainwashing or level of spiritual possession. I would agree that our level of alertness certainly varies. We are sometimes fully awake and alert regarding our surroundings, and sometimes not when our conscienceness is subdued, such as when we are sick, sleepy, drunk, drugged or at church on Sunday morning :^) For what it's worth, as far as hypnosis goes, Newton claims that it cannot be used to program people to do things immediately contrary to their own interests, such as flinging themselves off a cliff. He says that even in a hypnotic state, we will only go along with things that we want to do, and turning people into zombies is the stuff of Hollywood only. That's what he says, for what it's worth. I don't know.
It is mind boggling isn't it. I guess humanity has always had it's share of morons. I really don't mean that as a slight, it's just the accurate term for those of slow wit that has been bastardized and used as a slang insult in more recent history. It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
lol. sunday sermons and tv evangelists use so much nlp and covert hypnosis its hilarious. show me someone who thinks they're in control and aren't likely to be hypnotized, and i'll entrance them and have them handing me their wallet while they thank me. “Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,
Well here's where things get interesting. You say, in your opinion, demons are around. But why do you believe this? If we are debating beliefs back and forth, then nothing will be accomplished. What makes Newton's perception so unusual is that they are proported to be based on what subjects under hypnosis tell him, and not based on revelations spoken to him in his own dreams and meditations, which is pretty much the basis of how just about every founder of religion claims to know the truth. When Newton says that all of his clients whom he questioned on the matter say demons do not exist, and he's got recordings and transcripts to back it up, what do you do with that? You either have to accept it or come up with an explanation as to how they all say such a thing when it's not true, and even beyond that, how so many people could say the same thing, even given diverse backgrounds and religious beliefs. Either Newton is a fraud or his clients are all being manipulated by some spiritual force to say things that are not true. If you'd want to take either position I'll respect that, but some explanation is needed to explain Newton's portrayal of the universe.
jehovah, alien babylonian demi urge 'diety': racist (chosen people), bloodthirsty (requires killing of living creatures), jealous (says not to worship other gods, not that they're ARENT any, but none before 'him', hate filled (kills and burns with anger those who don't agree), is ritualistic (complex and idiotic codex of behavior that one must follow), is draconian (permanent punishment for temporal violations of a code impossible to follow). the gnostics knew that was no Supreme Being; it was an evil, spiteful entity they termed the 'demi urge'. scooby doo bullshit based on fear, guilt, revenge (eye for eye) and damnation.....vs. new testament, based on love, forgiveness and grace. not to tough to figure out the darkside spawn ginned up this fear shit that, gee whiz, coicidentally just happens to make them the chosen ones, so dingbat fundie pinheads will toe the line and give em everything they want, while never bothering to read the talmud that gives the more accurate picture of the contempt they're held in by these 'chosen types'...who regard them as cattle. duh...the demiurge regards this as a human farm, with a group designated as overseers to manage the herd. (gasp...no! not that. Whats that in Isiah about coming to set the captives free? hmmm....lets watch Hagee and he'll tell us) not really that tough to figure out. “Like it or not, everything is changing. The result will be the most wonderful experience in the history of man or the most horrible enslavement that you can imagine. Be active or abdicate. The future is in your hands.” 53; Milton William Cooper,
I remember reading a report that addresses this. I have no link handy though so take it for what you think it's worth. THey hooked up a TV that would automatically turn off based on brain waves. When they entered altered states, off goes the boob tube. No one could keep it on for more than 30 seconds. -------------------------------------------------------- It shouldn't be, but it is hard to figure out, especially when people are raised with it. Most people will never leave it. Which is OK, so long as they don't try and recruit others into their misery. So much for the 'great commission', huh? lol If they want to believe that they are born as unworthy pieces of shit, who am I to stop them? The only ones that benefit from that are the kikes that started it, and their henchmen parasites that benefit from it. I can't do anything to stop this. -------------------------------------------------------- According to Newton "demons" in the religious sense do not exist. Having said that, possession of a body/mind is something that all souls do, so in that sense, we could say that the souls of you and I are demons because we each possess our respective bodies. Our bodies *are* possessed -- by our souls. I'm sure a christian would then suggest that demons could/would intrude upon the body and share it somehow, that that is the meaning of demon possession. Newton reports that the word he gets is that one soul cannot take over a body that his held by another soul, so presumably "demons" would be similarly restricted. Having said *that*, Newton does not claim to have all the answers of what goes on in the spirit world, so I'd say there is room in his portrayal of things for strange entities to exist. Even so, having read 2 of his books, I'd guess his sentiment is that demons run contrary to everything he's ever heard depicted about earth and the spirit world. Okay, maybe. But if deception is possible, then how do you know you were not deceived about the existence of Satan? Why do you accept the perception of the world as depicted by one source but not another contrary source?
I hope this is true because I'd be heartbroken if I won't ever see my beloved Budgies Wheetie and Marty, or my cat Ootie again. While I don't believe in reincarnation I have always hoped that God made provisions for the animals too. I have had some pets who were very dear to me and it makes me hope that the story about the Rainbow Bridge is true. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
I say POSSESSION. DECEPTION. When Newton says that all of his clients whom he questioned on the matter say demons do not exist, and he's got recordings and transcripts to back it up, what do you do with that? Simple. LIES facilitated by DEMONS who by definition are LIARS and DECEIVERS. What's credible about a conscious that's been hijacked by metaphysical beings? ...based on revelations spoken to him in his own dreams and meditations, which is pretty much the basis of how just about every founder of religion claims to know the truth. No other "Founder of Religion" matters except the Bible, whose centuries-old prophesies CAN be backed up, along with it's Redeemer and his Gospel. NOTHING compares to the Christian tenets and documentation, Christ's miracles, His character witnesses, His Sermon in the Mount, his End Game in MORE detail than the Plan of the God of Abraham and the Redeemer of sin, and the His Kingdom Don't believe it, fine. Faith, an open mind, spiritual manna, and final destination of your soul is your responsibility - no one elses. When Newton says that all of his clients whom he questioned on the matter say demons do not exist, and he's got recordings and transcripts to back it up, what do you do with that? You either have to accept it or come up with an explanation as to how they all say such a thing when it's not true, and even beyond that, how so many people could say the same thing, even given diverse backgrounds and religious beliefs. So your claiming science and the testimony manipulating a bunch of spiritual guinea pigs exposing their respective conscious to hypnotic trances and demon manipulation means THE SECRET IS EXPOSED!! NO DEATH! NO HELL! KARMA! NO HEAVEN! Hey, if you believe all that "proof" of the ultimate alternative death mulligan, then go ahead. I'll just say the realm of the metaphysical is teeming with unseen power. STRONG power. I have witnessed personally forces and assaults. Conversely, the Armor of God is real in this realm as well. Some of us find ourselves tuned to a certain frequency that transcends the physical on BOTH sides. Told by people who are under hypnosis. That is one thing about Newton that should be respected (assuming he's not fraudulent, of course). The spirit world he portrays is based on what his clients tell him while they are under hypnosis, so he's just the messenger. That is your choice. I choose to be openminded. If not a fraud, then a mere messenger. Perhaps a messenger of lies, but if so, still just a messenger. Not necessarily. Newton admits to not having the full picture. It's possible that the life of Jesus was real and his original message and mission was true. It may yet fit into the picture by Newton. I do, however, agree that the Bible is not completely compatible with the model of the world portrayed by Newton, and therefore the idea of the Bible today is the "infallible Word of God" does not work with Newton. The Bible would need to be downgraded to the status of a collection of historic and virtuous writings that contain a lot of historic truth and good moral character.
I never heard about the Rainbow Bridge until I got involved in Pug Rescue and had to send a sick one over myself. "There are only 800,000 state, local, and federal law enforcement officers in the entire country." - Vox Day
Yet you claim ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that doesn't fit into your narrow understanding MUST be satanic or demonic. You deny hard evidence of actual physical objects, ignore historical facts, and believe a set of writings of dubious origin for no good reason other than that's what you've had drilled into you since you were an infant. Yeah, you have the "truth" all wrapped up, and KNOW that anything other than what you've been led to believe MUST be a lie. Now can you see why this world has always had misery, strife, and war? All that needs to be done is to say the "enemy" is "godless" or that they are "heretics". Or, just say God Himself ordered you to kill his enemies, since apparently he didn't feel like doing it himself. Why would the metaphysical have any restrictions or "laws"?? You either have to accept it or come up with an explanation as to how they all say such a thing when it's not true, and even beyond that, how so many people could say the same thing, even given diverse backgrounds and religious beliefs. To presume that Satan or his agents, demons are somehow limited in exercising massive mind-control is naive; History has proven over several centuries are the masses are controlled enmasse, like zombies. Evil and epidemic mind-sets of hundreds, thousands, millions have been rife. The power satan wields on the earth is mind-bioboggling. This fact hardly needed convincing or controlled laboratory subjects. Let me ask you this. Do you think those who ordered or performed the horrific medieval torture on men, women, and children were working for the devil, or for God? They ALL claimed to be doing the "work of God", but have you ever read the phrase, "Ye shall know them by their fruits. "? If you use that as a guide as to who is more "holy" or spiritual, and who is under the influence of evil, your eyes may open up. Your neutron bomb of splattered incoherent points address NOTHING in particular. You deny hard evidence of actual physical objects, ignore historical facts, and believe a set of writings of dubious origin for no good reason other than that's what you've had drilled into you since you were an infant. And the "hard evidence of actual physical objects" is WHAT again? "Historical facts" you allude to is WHAT again?? The "belief in a set of writings of dubious origin for no good reason other than that's what you've had drilled into you since you were an infant" I assume is the Bible. YOU say it's "dubious". YOUR "credentials" please? YOUR Bible scholarship" please? The empirical proof and witnessing of the accounts of Jesus Christ FOUR Apostles and countless other historical witnesses is discredited by WHOM?? The Prophecies are discredited by WHOM?? YOUR case is supported in quick sand and deception by a metaphysical world of demons you believe is populated by benevolent karmic being whose deceptive encouragement is: BELIEVE OUR WITNESSES WHO SAY THERE IS NO GOD, NO REDEMPTION, NO SIN. NO HEAVEN. JUST rest assured that the reports from Dr. Newton and his lab-rat Zombies that Spiritual Egalitarianism in the Social Services Office run by a blue ribbon panel including Captain Kirk, Spock, Gandhi, Mother Teresa, is alive and well. So relax - no need to pay attention to this Christian "God". Everything is His fault anyway. I never heard about the Rainbow Bridge until I got involved in Pug Rescue and had to send a sick one over myself. I don't KNOW that it's true--I said that I HOPE it is true. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
This idea is not intuitive to me. As babies grow into children their lucidity grows slowly. So when a child who has heard about God and Jesus on some semi-awareness level dies, does that child go to heaven or hell? Where do you draw the line between innocence and sinful guilt when there is no similar line of comprehension of the truth? Do you have a reasonable and spiritually just answer for this? And the word "chance" jumps out at me in your statement. Is life only about "chances" and opportunity? Does that sound like what God would offer people... "chances"? The world portrayed by Newton is one where all souls have a built in desire to excel to perfection. Free will is king. You do what you want, become what you want, as fast or as slowly as you want. You choose the lives you want, if any at all, and you choose how many you want. The common thread of all souls is the desire to become greater than they are, and disappointment when we fail to do so. No, that's not proof of anything but to me is much more in line with how an awesome God would be. To me the idea of us being given "one chance" seems a very crude thing for an Almighty God to do.
You have many questions, but provide few answers: THIS is a fallen world. We have free choice. Man's evil deeds and sin are inspired by and facilitated by Satan of course. They ALL claimed to be doing the "work of God", but have you ever read the phrase, "Ye shall know them by their fruits. "? I can claim I'm James T. Kirk. Or Batman. What of Lies? They are their father's fruit, are they not? If you use that as a guide as to who is more "holy" or spiritual, and who is under the influence of evil, your eyes may open up. You are the one whose eyes are blinded and heart hardened and wisdom buried. I see the deeds of those who claim to be religious, and of those who claim to be spiritual rather than religious. Look at the history of Europe and the Middle East for examples of pure evil, there is an abundance of it throughout time perpetrated by those who handed down your "scriptures". Then look at the history of places like Tibet where Buddhism is prevalent. I don't recall reading about very many wars led by Buddhist monks or followers of that belief system. Your very own religion had its true origins in Essene teachings, which were erased from the "accepted" teachings shortly after the death of Jesus. The Essenes were hunted down and persecuted by the Romans who later gave you your very own "faith" in the blood cult of modern day Chistianity, which has little if anything to do with what the actual teachings of Jesus most likely were. The Essenes did not eat animal flesh, did not sacrifice animals to God, and did not engage in war. By their fruits ye shall know them. That's very nice, thank you. The aforementioned cat that I called "Ootie" (her Christian name given by my then 8 yr old daughter was "Tigger") was a wild kitten with her ribs showing when I snatched her up in a wildlife area and brought her home to my daughter. The cat was starving because she was only big enough to eat grasshoppers (yuk) and my daughter wanted a cat so, I figured we needed each other. She tried to run but the tall grass slowed her down and when I closed my hand around her the kitten sunk her needle sharp fangs to the bone of my finger! But years later that cat would roll in the marsh mud on my chest waders after a morning duck hunt, probably to remind her of the first few weeks of her misspent youth. And she loved to sleep in the bed with me. (After a bath of course) It surprised me that I would love a temperamental half wild cat that was prone to wildings, lightning fast claw and fang attacks if she didn't get her space and respect. (It was ill advised to ever rub her fur the wrong way for instance) And, when the day came to put her to sleep I could not be consoled. I wept so much that I didn't pee for two days. And when I see her picture now I'm overcome with a great sadness. Many people posted sweet comments to me including the story of The Rainbow Bridge. So, I appreciate it from you more than you know my friend.
Good questions. The Lord know our hearts; Most children know right and wrong instinctively. They will be judged as only God can. And even if they don't "know" God," He will make allowance. How? Who knows. But we know children have a special place in God's heart. Free will is king. You do what you want, become what you want, as fast or as slowly as you want. You choose the lives you want, if any at all, and you choose how many you want. The common thread of all souls is the desire to become greater than they are, and disappointment when we fail to do so. No, that's not proof of anything but to me is much more in line with how an awesome God would be. To me the idea of us being given "one chance" seems a very crude thing for an Almighty God to do. Again, you pose excellent questions. I supposed God will take into account every heart, every will, and every circumstance and situation on an individual basis. He created ALL of us for a reason. Whereever we are, whatever we do. Some of us are far more fortunate then others. Above all things, He is most merciful. We have all "failed" at being "good" - still He welcomes us to Him after everything is said and done. Sure we can dwell on the pain of and in this world. The injustice. The inequity. Father and Son promise it WILL be worth enduring the pain, the spiritual and emotional battles. And triumphant over the deceptions and lies. Rejecting the illicit pleasures of the flesh. Illicit Riches. Illicit Power. "...And lead us not into temptation, but delivery us from evil...for thine is the Kingdom, Power, and Glory Forever." I'm taking THAT to the bank - NOT the hearsay lab rat demon-possessed shills who say THEIR Karmic story beyond the grave is the real deal. Do you know WHO wrote the varous books of the Old Testament? What authority did THEY have to speak for God Himself? If you have done ANY actual research into the New Testament, you'd know that the names of the gospels were pennames, that the actual apostles did NOT write them. If you delve into the history of the NT, you'll see that there have been entire sections added, edited in content, and deleted over time. The ONLY epistle that MIGHT be somewhat authentic in content is Matthew, the rest are medieval forgeries spun out of thin air by those who were busy creating the "legend" of a man god who would and should be worshipped by the multitudes, upon penalty of death if one did not go along with what they were forced to accept. Start by reading the link I provided earlier for some insight if you wish. Countless photos, videos, radar tracks, and witness testimony as to the existance of intelligently controlled flying craft that perform beyond anything possible with human technology. These objects AND beings have been seen since man has been on this planet. Look up ancient Sumerian writings, they speak of "gods" from the stars who gave them knowledge of science, mathmatics, and agriculture. There is abundance of cave drawings with images of such "gods", who are shown flying machines similar to what is seen in the skies today. Even the bible speaks of the Nephilim. You should know about it if you're the bible expert you portray yourself as. With the virtually infinite number of stars in this universe that have planets revolving around them, it is extremely closed minded and irrational to think THIS planet is the only planet that has intelligent life. To think otherwise is just plain denial of an extremely probable truth. We are given one life to chose whom we will follow: God or Satan; life or death. John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth as witness this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live. Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
You obviously have NO idea of what I believe or what I think. I believe that the TRUE God is more than anything you or any other human being could imagine, and lives in EVERY living thing which exists throughout this Universe and beyond, in the present, past, AND future. Take the origins of this Universe for instance. That which existed prior to the Big Bang is unknowable, beyond comprehension. And that is the realm of God. As far as human souls, we are said to be made in the image of God, not in terms of physical likeness (except for the fact we are either male or female, and there is certainly a duality of nature in any living thing), but in terms of SPIRITUALITY, where our souls are a microcosm of the soul of God. Those souls never die, and may in fact come back in various incarnations in the physical realm in order to experience various events in order to acquire a higher understanding of life. As far as Karma, it could well be true that a person experiences a life of misfortune if they were callous and committed evil deeds in a past life, or if they just didn't learn everything they needed to the first time, they might have an average or successful life, depending on their past nature. Reincarnation is an accepted belief in many religions, including the Essene philosophy most likely taught by the ACTUAL Jesus himself. questions... is everybody reincarnated, does everyone have previous lives? does everybody have multiple previous lives? given the population of the earth now, are there enough souls to go around? ...if seven billion people existing today are multiple reincarnates, that must mean some people are duplicates of each other. in the process of duplication, are duplicates the same strength as the originals, or is a soul's potency diluted as it's duplicated?
How infinite is time, what existed before this Universe, how vast IS this Universe? Life is teaming throughout time and space. And that is where souls come from, there is an infinite supply. that's a relief ...although it seems you have to question whether earth's previous human population is infinite, dont you? if you've lived previous lives, and the soul supply is infinite, that implies that an infinite number of souls were incarnated and lived previously, doesnt it?
You're most welcome. That was a nice story about your cat and I sympathize with your loss. People who have never deeply loved a pet like a member of their own family don't understand those of us who feel like our heart has been ripped out when something happens to one of them. I don't know how many people I have heard say, well, it was just a (insert dog, cat, bird or whatever pet it was here). There is no such thing as "just a dog, just a cat, or just a bird" to someone who loves their pets. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
Are you familiar with the mathematical concept of a "Bounded Infinity"? I suspect not from your comment. Simply put a bounded infinity is something which extends infinitely from a point of origin - an end point. For example: So, the "|" is the end point and from that end point the line stretches on without bounds - but only in one direction thus it is a bounded infinity. Thus if you take the time of creation of awareness and extend it out it increases along a line of infinite expansion but began at zero. All I can tell you is what the books say that the clients told him. Read the books and watch the vids, and you will know just as much as I do about this subject. Your questions are answered, though. It's best that the author answer them, and not me. -------------------------------------------------------- would it be too personal to ask you to elaborate? would you describe this experience as going beyond simple faith? i have difficulty accepting blindly that the Bible is God's word. i am not rejecting it out of hand either. i simply don't know except to say that much of what i have read in the OT strikes me as absurd; and, honestly, i have difficulty with those like King James, for example, who made the decisions on what letters and books should be included/canonized. then, of course, you have to consider the endless translations open to equally endless interpretations.
how bout a hint?
show me someone who thinks they're in control and aren't likely to be hypnotized, and i'll entrance them and have them handing me their wallet while they thank me. sooooo true...and i find that an immense turn off.
if you've lived previous lives, and the soul supply is infinite, that implies that an infinite number of souls were incarnated and lived previously, doesnt it? There is most certainly life beyond this planet, and that includes planets other than our own. In fact, there is more than likely other UNIVERSES beyond ours. That is beyond what we can fathom, but there certainly exists a strong possibiity that is indeed true. Time is infinite, as such, souls exists in infinite time frames, past, present, or future. questions... is everybody reincarnated, does everyone have previous lives? There are new and old souls. does everybody have multiple previous lives? No, because some have yet to incarnate. given the population of the earth now, are there enough souls to go around? ...if seven billion people existing today are multiple reincarnates, that must mean some people are duplicates of each other. You forget about life on other planets. It's a big universe. He goes into that. in the process of duplication, are duplicates the same strength as the originals, or is a soul's potency diluted as it's duplicated? Some energy is left behind. Souls can split. Those are his answers, not mine, and if you really are interested in the subject beyond mere curiosity then read the books, especially the first one, and watch the vids, because my answers lack detail. -------------------------------------------------------- there is more than likely other UNIVERSES beyond ours so what? it could be that it's all true... but there's no evidence, so we have to take all this stuff with a grain of salt, dont we? meanwhile, it makes no difference unless you can catch a wormhole to another universe when you get fed up with this one. also meanwhile, unless some of these people are reporting their lives on different planets, we have to assume an infinite number of them lived on earth. seems unlikely.
We all get to find out how things work when we die. Nobody that I've heard of remembers it though.
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#107. To: Liberator (#97)
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You "know better" than whom?? "Dopey Holy Rollers"?? Bible scholars?? Simple people who understand the context of the Bible through both the Old and New Testament?
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#108. To: Liberator (#87)
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The human psyche has several layers of a "fire wall."
#109. To: Liberator (#81)
And then there are still those who believe the "official 9/11 report
#110. To: Pinguinite (#108)
#111. To: Liberator (#88)
Demons work in this world only to deceive man into believing in his own deity or the "lie" of one mortal life as they provide afterlife options to the one and only God and His Law. IMO.
#112. To: PSUSA2 (#107)
#113. To: gengis gandhi (#110)
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#114. To: gengis gandhi (#112)
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not really that tough to figure out.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#115. To: Liberator (#90)
If those of us concede that there's a metaphysical world that exists beyond tHIS physical world, why isn't demon possession possible?
Satan needs to convince man that death is NOT final. Memories of a "past" accomplish that. VIOLA! "Reincarnation" is SOLD.
#116. To: HOUNDDAWG (#80)
In the film AVATAR the Na'vi had a ritual they performed when they harvested a critter for victuals. The animal's soul went to be with Eywa, the guiding force and deity of Pandora and the Na'vi.
#117. To: Pinguinite (#111)
What makes Newton's perception so unusual is that they are proported to be based on what subjects under hypnosis tell him, and not based on revelations spoken to him in his own dreams and meditations, which is pretty much the basis of how just about every founder of religion claims to know the truth.
#118. To: Liberator (#101)
Those souls who have been associated with evil are taken to special centers which some clients call "intensive care units." Here, I am told, their energy is remodeled to make it whole again.
"Told" by *whom*??
"There is no hell for souls, except perhaps on Earth."
I need not read further.
This guy is a Deceiver, promoting the Great Lie.
I guess the gist of all this is, is that Jesus Christ and His Salvation is the Lie,
#119. To: James Deffenbach (#116)
the story about the Rainbow Bridge is true.
#120. To: Liberator (#117)
I'll just say the realm of the metaphysical is teeming with unseen power. STRONG power. I have witnessed personally forces and assaults. Conversely, the Armor of God is real in this realm as well. Some of us find ourselves tuned to a certain frequency that transcends the physical on BOTH sides.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#121. To: Pinguinite (#115)
When Newton says that all of his clients whom he questioned on the matter say demons do not exist, and he's got recordings and transcripts to back it up, what do you do with that? You either have to accept it or come up with an explanation as to how they all say such a thing when it's not true, and even beyond that, how so many people could say the same thing, even given diverse backgrounds and religious beliefs.
#122. To: Liberator (#121)
To presume that Satan or his agents, demons are somehow limited in exercising massive mind-control is naive; History has proven over several centuries are the masses are controlled enmasse, like zombies. Evil and epidemic mind-sets of hundreds, thousands, millions have been rife.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#123. To: FormerLurker (#120)
#124. To: Turtle (#119)
the story about the Rainbow Bridge is true.
#125. To: Liberator (#102)
There is no Second Chance on earth as a mortal being, nor second chance as one pays penance in some ethereal waiting room like Purgatory or amongst a Council of Angels.
#126. To: FormerLurker (#122)
Do you think those who ordered or performed the horrific medieval torture on men, women, and children were working for the devil, or for God?
#127. To: Liberator (#126)
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#128. To: James Deffenbach (#116)
While I don't believe in reincarnation I have always hoped that God made provisions for the animals too. I have had some pets who were very dear to me and it makes me hope that the story about the Rainbow Bridge is true.
#129. To: Pinguinite (#125)
So when a child who has heard about God and Jesus on some semi-awareness level dies, does that child go to heaven or hell? Where do you draw the line between innocence and sinful guilt when there is no similar line of comprehension of the truth? Do you have a reasonable and spiritually just answer for this?
#130. To: Liberator (#123)
The "belief in a set of writings of dubious origin for no good reason other than that's what you've had drilled into you since you were an infant" I assume is the Bible. YOU say it's "dubious". YOUR "credentials" please? YOUR Bible scholarship" please?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#131. To: Liberator (#123)
And the "hard evidence of actual physical objects" is WHAT again?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#132. To: Pinguinite (#125)
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#133. To: Liberator (#123)
YOUR case is supported in quick sand and deception by a metaphysical world of demons you believe is populated by benevolent karmic being whose deceptive encouragement is: BELIEVE OUR WITNESSES WHO SAY THERE IS NO GOD, NO REDEMPTION, NO SIN. NO HEAVEN.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#134. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
#135. To: lead.and.lag (#134)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#136. To: FormerLurker (#135)
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there is an infinite supply.
#137. To: HOUNDDAWG (#128)
That's very nice, thank you.
#138. To: lead.and.lag, FormerLurker (#136)
|----------------------------> and on infinitely
#139. To: lead.and.lag (#134)
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#140. To: Liberator (#97)
I'm commenting on this subject because I have personal and secondhand experience and knowledge in the subject of the metaphysical, metaphychic phenomena that transcends this physical world.
#141. To: PSUSA2 (#139)
Your questions are answered, though. It's best that the author answer them, and not me.
#142. To: gengis gandhi (#110)
lol. sunday sermons and tv evangelists use so much nlp and covert hypnosis its hilarious.
#143. To: lead.and.lag (#136)
.although it seems you have to question whether earth's previous human population is infinite, dont you?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#144. To: lead.and.lag (#141)
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how bout a hint?
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#145. To: FormerLurker (#143)
(Edited)
There is most certainly life beyond this planet
#146. To: lead.and.lag (#145)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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