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Title: For those interested in reincarnation and what happens between lives
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Published: Dec 21, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-12-21 12:19:02 by PSUSA2
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Here are a couple of books written by a regression hypnotist that stumbled onto this topic. It goes well beyond the standard past life regressions.

If you want to know why people are the way they are, and why life is so difficult, and what happens after death, this is a possible answer that goes well beyond the "you must have FAITH, my child!" nonsense.

To me, this has the "ring of truth", based on what I already see and know, but your mileage may vary.


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This remarkable book uncovers--for the first time--the mystery of life in the spirit world after death on earth. Dr. Michael Newton, a hypnotherapist in private practice, has developed his own hypnosis technique to reach his subjects' hidden memories of the hereafter. The resulting narrative acts as a progressive "travel log" of the accounts of twenty-nine people who were placed in a state of superconsciousness. While in deep hypnosis, these subjects movingly describe what has happened to them between their former reincarnations on earth. They reveal graphic details about how it feels to die, who meets us right after death, what the spirit world is really like, where we go and what we do as souls, and why we choose to come back in certain bodies.

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Michael Newton is one of a handful of published researchers who is adding to our knowledge of life between lives through the use of hypnosis. In coming decades, this kind of research should build and expand until we have a detailed understanding of life on the higher dimensions.

In this book he continues his years of investigations, taking us further into an understanding of the soul's journey in and out of incarnation. Some topics covered in this book are (1) The various ways recently deceased souls try to make contact with those left behind, (2) How our spiritual energy is restored after a difficult incarnation or traumatic death, (3) How our between-life vocations can manifest in our earthly careers, (4) More on colors as indications of levels of attainment, (5) Spiritual names, (6) Much more on our soul groups, and how we interact between and during incarnations, (7) The "Council of Elders", a review panel of higher beings who help us gain insight on our lives just after we complete one, and just before we begin a new one, (8)How souls are "born" from higher levels into the level we spend time in between lives, (9) Extensive case studies of the "library" of past lives which souls study in between lifetimes. With Newton's work and those of similar investigators we are finally gaining an understanding of life in higher dimensions based on research and first-hand reports, rather than speculation and belief. Other than Newton's work, two other good books along this line are out of print, but generally not hard to find. One is LIFE BETWEEN LIVES (1986) by Whitton and Fisher. That book also follows the case-study approach. A second book is EXPLORING REINCARNATION (1987) by Hans Tendam. This book is a rigorous summary of the whole subject of past lives, life between lives, and the reliability of hypnosis as a tool of investigation. It's not a light read, but is the most in depth and thorough book on the subject to date, and essential reading for anyone who wishes to become well informed about it.

If you want them, I suggest reading them in order. The 2nd book builds on the first book.

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#134. To: PSUSA2 (#0)

questions...

is everybody reincarnated, does everyone have previous lives?

does everybody have multiple previous lives?

given the population of the earth now, are there enough souls to go around? ...if seven billion people existing today are multiple reincarnates, that must mean some people are duplicates of each other.

in the process of duplication, are duplicates the same strength as the originals, or is a soul's potency diluted as it's duplicated?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-12-31   17:27:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: lead.and.lag (#134)

is everybody reincarnated, does everyone have previous lives?

As per Newton's take... no. Our souls do have a birth. Souls are born on a continuing basis, so there is a first incarnation of life for souls.

does everybody have multiple previous lives?

As per above, no. Everyone has a first life, so this life for you could be your first.

given the population of the earth now, are there enough souls to go around? ...if seven billion people existing today are multiple reincarnates, that must mean some people are duplicates of each other.

No. As per above souls are being born continuously though there's no indication at what rate that's happening. Souls eventually stop incarnating and move forward / upward, closer to "the Source". To what end, Newton says he does not know, but he speculates that it may be for eventual merging back with the "Source", which is not unlike the final destiny as per Christianity.

Pinguinite  posted on  2011-12-31   20:23:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Pinguinite (#155) (Edited)

Souls are born on a continuing basis

okay, that's good... not everybody is a reincarnation, so that explains the mathematics.

are reincarnated souls superior to souls that are not reicarnations?

and why are you inclined to believe hypnotists who have no more evidence than, say, christians, muslims, or jews do?

and what's the difference, anyhow, seeing as how the hindus in india, who believe in reincarnation, seem to be in as bad a mess as the rest of us?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-12-31   20:28:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: lead.and.lag (#157)

are unreincarnated souls superior to souls that are not reicarnations?

In terms of development, almost always the answer is no, as it is largely the experience of incarnations that advances soul development.

and why are you inclined to believe hypnotists who have no more evidence than, say, christians, muslims, or jews do?

Because in the case of Newton, he bases his information on the collective "testimony" if you will, of his clients. His information not first hand but second hand from many people who all give matching accounts.

Major religions, on the other hand, don't have info anywhere close to second hand. Instead the info has been passed down through countless generations which opens the door to mutation and manipulated theology.

and what's the difference, anyhow, seeing as how the hindus in india, who believe in reincarnation, seem to be in as bad a mess as the rest of us?

The quality of life has no relation to correct theology. According to Newton, we chose the lives we are living now. Our life assignments are not in the least random. Souls will volunteer for hard lives in order to grow themselves spiritually, perhaps to address some shortcoming they have. For example a soul that has a problem with vanity and may well choose a life destined to be a beggar to learn a bit of humility. Another soul that is under confident may choose a life that puts him/her in a position of authority. It matters little what theology that life embraces, whether it's Christan, Muslim, Hindu, Athiest or whatever. What's important is how that soul works the life in question in terms of being a positive force in the lives of him/herself, and others.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-01-01   2:05:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Pinguinite (#158) (Edited)

it just looks like another scheme to control people by appealing to their fear of death.

but reincarnation has a kind of interesting wrinkle... you gotta behave yourself or you'll come back as a toilet scrubber at texas stadium, or maybe a ship breaker in india.

i gotta say, if karma is any guide, most reincarnated americans will wind up making a living by dumpster diving.

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anyhow, it's always the same old thing... if you find a story that appeals to you, go for it, stick with it... somebody, somewhere, might even turn out to be right, which would improve humanity's chances of survival.

meahwhile, my personal solution is to believe that there are things we cant know and cant understand, and i seem to be content with that.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-01   2:26:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: lead.and.lag (#160)

it just looks like another scheme to control people by appealing to their fear of death.

On the other hand, if it's an accurate picture of reality, then what it looks like is immaterial. It's not meant to look like anything other than what it is.

but reincarnation has a kind of interesting wrinkle... you gotta behave yourself or you'll come back as a toilet scrubber at texas stadium, or maybe a ship breaker in india.

Well, If your goal is to find a model of life that makes everything super easy, you can do so, I'm sure. That won't make it true though.

i gotta say, if karma is any guide, most reincarnated americans will wind up making a living by dumpster diving.

And this is bad because...??? hehe

anyhow, it's always the same old thing... if you find a story that appeals to you, go for it, stick with it... somebody, somewhere, might even turn out to be right, which would improve humanity's chances of survival.

meahwhile, my personal solution is to believe that there are things we cant know and cant understand, and i seem to be content with that.

Then good for you.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-01-01   8:29:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Pinguinite (#164) (Edited)

If your goal is to find a model of life that makes everything super easy, you can do so, I'm sure

that kinda violates karmic laws, doesnt it?

...and how then would americans be punished for their piggishness if they choose to come back as, say, emperor of china?...assuming for the sake of argument that in an infinite number of universes, worlds and lives to choose from, there'd be an infinite number of openings for emperor of china?

if it's an accurate picture of reality, then what it looks like is immaterial. It's not meant to look like anything other than what it is.

IF... are you saying you're convinced?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-01   9:35:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: lead.and.lag, Liberator, PSUSA2 (#167)

If your goal is to find a model of life that makes everything super easy, you can do so, I'm sure

that kinda violates karmic laws, doesnt it?

My meaning is that you could do it, but that doesn't mean you'd come up with an accurate model. You can also believe the world is flat, and I won't stop you from doing so, but that doesn't mean the world would be flat. Be wrong if that's what you choose to do.

...and how then would americans be punished for their piggishness if they choose to come back as, say, emperor of china?...assuming for the sake of argument that in an infinite number of universes, worlds and lives to choose from, there'd be an infinite number of openings for emperor of china?

It's not about punishment. Never is it about punishment. That's a carryover from typical religious thinking. It's about choosing a life that challenges you in areas where you are weak so you can become a better person. Though some souls, typically younger souls, will just choose easy fun lives as they may have little motivation to grow. They are permitted to "play" for a while just as 2-3 year olds are allowed to, and not put into first grade until age 5 or so. Also some can be tired of a series of hard lives and want a little vacation. Again this is all according to what Newton has had reported from his clients.

As for having an infinite choices as per string theory's 10 dimensions of everything, that doesn't seem to be the case when it comes to choices. Newton reports that a few lives, 2 or 3 maybe, are selected as recommended options for a particular soul, which usually is what's chosen. But nothing is ever forced. The selection is in every case made ultimately by the soul in question, including a rejection of all options. That is why life is always fair, in spiritual terms, no matter what hardships a person may face, including a young death, or a life of crippling disease, such as with Steven Hawkings.

The spirit world has a definite structure and order to it, Newton says, with places, guides, "elders", and teachers participating in all that goes on. The stereotype of everyone floating around on clouds playing harps is nonsense.

IF... are you saying you're convinced?

The reason I'm able to consider Newton's portrayal of the spirit world is because I have an open mind, and because of that, I am still open to the possibility that Newton is a fraud, or that there is another explanation for his reports. But it's like this.... if you've been struggling to solve a bunch of math problems for 6 months, and then some guy walks in the door and provides solutions to them all in 5 minutes, then you are pretty much inclined to conclude that he really knows math better than you do. I'll echo PSUSA's 2 words on this thread about Newton's portrayal: "It fits". For me, this portrayal of things makes everything else fall into place. Things I've seen and experienced in my life, things I've been puzzled about for a very long time, and things I feel in my heart. Everything. It fits. So while others may not see this as a big deal, I do.

Liberator here apparently has alternate experiences that persuade him to believe the Christian model. I respect that and will continue to have an open mind with more information.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-01-01   11:13:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Pinguinite (#169) (Edited)

"It fits". For me, this portrayal of things makes everything else fall into place. Things I've seen and experienced in my life, things I've been puzzled about for a very long time, and things I feel in my heart. Everything. It fits. So while others may not see this as a big deal, I do.

it would fit for me, too, if i was a racial supremacist that figured i could get away with murdering millions or billions of people, and needed some kind of "spiritual" mumbo-jumbo to justify my actions.

i got to say that it's hard for me to believe that any same person, dead or alive, would choose to starve to death, or be bombed or napalmed.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-01   11:20:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: lead.and.lag (#171)

it would fit for me, too, if i was a racial supremacist that figured i could get away with murdering millions or billions of people, and needed some kind of "spiritual" mumbo-jumbo to justify my actions.

I have no idea why you'd think this.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-01-01   11:27:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Pinguinite (#172)

you also say that the new souls --the ones yet to be incarnated-- are inferior to the reincarnated souls, and you also say that they have no choice of lives to be incarnated into.

since it's non-whites who are doing the most suffering, we have to assume that they had no choice.

or maybe it's simply that they dont have souls... they're just props, cannon fodder, for the reincarnated elite.

the whole proposition has some nasty implications.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-01   11:37:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: lead.and.lag (#174)

you also say that the new souls --the ones yet to be incarnated-- are inferior to the reincarnated souls, and you also say that they have no choice of lives to be incarnated into.

You used the term "inferior". I did not.

And I never said new souls have no choice of life.

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-01-01   12:08:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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