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Title: For those interested in reincarnation and what happens between lives
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Post Date: 2011-12-21 12:19:02 by PSUSA2
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Here are a couple of books written by a regression hypnotist that stumbled onto this topic. It goes well beyond the standard past life regressions. If you want to know why people are the way they are, and why life is so difficult, and what happens after death, this is a possible answer that goes well beyond the "you must have FAITH, my child!" nonsense. To me, this has the "ring of truth", based on what I already see and know, but your mileage may vary. This remarkable book uncovers--for the first time--the mystery of life in the spirit world after death on earth. Dr. Michael Newton, a hypnotherapist in private practice, has developed his own hypnosis technique to reach his subjects' hidden memories of the hereafter. The resulting narrative acts as a progressive "travel log" of the accounts of twenty-nine people who were placed in a state of superconsciousness. While in deep hypnosis, these subjects movingly describe what has happened to them between their former reincarnations on earth. They reveal graphic details about how it feels to die, who meets us right after death, what the spirit world is really like, where we go and what we do as souls, and why we choose to come back in certain bodies. www.megaupload.com/?d=VXXOFIL1 Michael Newton is one of a handful of published researchers who is adding to our knowledge of life between lives through the use of hypnosis. In coming decades, this kind of research should build and expand until we have a detailed understanding of life on the higher dimensions. In this book he continues his years of investigations, taking us further into an understanding of the soul's journey in and out of incarnation. Some topics covered in this book are (1) The various ways recently deceased souls try to make contact with those left behind, (2) How our spiritual energy is restored after a difficult incarnation or traumatic death, (3) How our between-life vocations can manifest in our earthly careers, (4) More on colors as indications of levels of attainment, (5) Spiritual names, (6) Much more on our soul groups, and how we interact between and during incarnations, (7) The "Council of Elders", a review panel of higher beings who help us gain insight on our lives just after we complete one, and just before we begin a new one, (8)How souls are "born" from higher levels into the level we spend time in between lives, (9) Extensive case studies of the "library" of past lives which souls study in between lifetimes. With Newton's work and those of similar investigators we are finally gaining an understanding of life in higher dimensions based on research and first-hand reports, rather than speculation and belief. Other than Newton's work, two other good books along this line are out of print, but generally not hard to find. One is LIFE BETWEEN LIVES (1986) by Whitton and Fisher. That book also follows the case-study approach. A second book is EXPLORING REINCARNATION (1987) by Hans Tendam. This book is a rigorous summary of the whole subject of past lives, life between lives, and the reliability of hypnosis as a tool of investigation. It's not a light read, but is the most in depth and thorough book on the subject to date, and essential reading for anyone who wishes to become well informed about it. If you want them, I suggest reading them in order. The 2nd book builds on the first book.
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#25. To: PSUSA2 (#6)
For further reference on the in between states, I recommend the Tibetan Book of the Dead or its sister The Egyptian book of the dead.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11 "Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
Still dont buy it. If reincarnation were real, it might be more like karma. A good person gets a good next life as a reward. An evil person gets a hard life.
#26. To: abraxas (#24)
If you came into this life rich and with all the material aspects you desire, how much would you limit your potential for growth?
Going back to the baby born into a toilet and drowned. How much spritual growth did that soul get? None.
But I dont buy that either.
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#27. To: Armadillo (#26) (Edited)
That's not for you or I to judge Dillo....but on the other side death isn't looked upon as bad. Each energetic body has its own needs to fill.....you or I or any other person on this planet. We have an opportunity to grow while in the elemental body and this is the GREAT gift of life, all life including the little babies who do not live very long. Consider the growth the life offers to others in your analysis as well as the growth that one soul gains. Consider that people continue to reincarnate until they achieve a level of BEING that merits getting off the wheel of life. Not all continue to reincarnate as there is a goal to achieve. We have choices in life and these choices determine the level of our BEING......so, in the end, a soul may actually digress for the (evil) choices made or they may enhance their sense of BEING. If you consider good and evil as choice beyond the state of judgment you foster a great compassion for those who opt for the latter, for what a price to pay for a soul to digress. Going back to the baby born into a toilet and drowned. How much spritual growth did that soul get?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#28. To: Armadillo (#26)
That's alright because I'm not attempting to sell it, just offering some food for thought on the topic. Still dont buy it.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#29. To: farmfriend (#21)
Agreed. The Christian idea is that it's one life on earth, and then eternity either with God in heaven or alone in fiery torment, but either way, eternal existence. As a bit of a scientist at heart, I have struggled to find compatibility between the Bible & Christianity vs science and logic. There are things that are hard to settle. One item pertinent to the subject on this thread is what happens to babies that die. They've had no chance to hear the gospel and make a choice for God, nor have they had any chance to actually commit sin. So where do they go? The litmus test decision of heaven or hell seems inappropriate to apply to those who die at various ages and with various degrees of mental lucidness. This type thing makes it seem like the standard Christian model is a bit invented. And then I wonder why the Bible should be accepted as the "Word of God". Some Christians believe the Bible is the "Word of God" because the Bible says it's the "Word of God", but obviously, self-certified authorship isn't valid. So what's the real, valid reason to believe the Bible? An eternal living spirit does not necessarily mean returning to earth in multiple bodies.
I am hard core Christian who believes in the Bible as truth. However I also believe in science and a broad spectrum of ideas. I do not see them as counter to the Bible as many do.
#30. To: Armadillo (#22)
This assumes that souls would know in advance the outcome of a given chosen life, which there is no reason to believe is the case. I know what you're saying and for me it's the old "I think, therefore I am" thing. *I* see through my eyes but not anyone else's. If all I am is flesh and blood, then I really shouldn't have a concept of *me*. But I do, so what the heck is going on here? Have you seen the flick called "The Secret?" Check it out if you haven't. It advocates a philosophy called the "Law of Attraction" where you attract things into your life according to what you are and believe at your deepest level. And for the vast majority of people, what's believed at that level is a mix of good and bad. Some people cannot conceive of living a healthy life and so are plagued with constant illness. Others cannot believe they deserve to be wealthy and so they live modestly. Not because they consciously want these things but because they don't believe that living better is a possibility. It explains the placebo effect in medicine about perfectly. That flick says nothing about reincarnation, but would mesh with it to answer your question perfectly. Maybe it is involuntary. Imagine a new, empty body that eventually sucks up a soul from the eatherworld like a vacuum cleaner. If your happy soul happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.... bummer! If our souls choose who we come back as, why would any choose to come back as a 14-year-olds baby drowned in a toilet at birth? Or anyone with a sad life?
I definitely believe in the soul. I would say I am conscious of my soul and there is a rider-and-horse relationship to the body. When I look in the mirror I have always felt that the "me" I see isnt the real "me". I'm inside that meat somewhere. My body is just the "horse", I am the "rider". Or maybe I'm just nuts.
So if reincarnation is real why did I come back as this? Why didnt I choose to come back as a rich playboy who has an easy life, gets laid every day, lives to be 100 (with great health), and is adored by millions? I choose this instead?
I dont buy that. If reincarnation were real it would have to be involuntary.
#31. To: purplerose (#23)
I've heard of people claiming to have this "astral projection" ability. Have you ever testing this by having your spouse put a message inside a closed box, taped shut, and then entering the box during your travels to read what it says? If you could do that, it would blow some people away. When I sleep, I roam all over the world and oftentimes fly in the universe. (No, I'm not smoking Mr. Greenthumb either.)
#32. To: Original_Intent (#12)
The original Hebrew is more like, "God created Man in Their own Likeness". Where that knowledge came from is unknown, but there is more than likely a huge amount of truth there... God created man in his own image.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#33. To: Armadillo (#26)
But I dont buy that either. And why not? Do you "buy" the idea of heaven and/or hell? If reincarnation were real, it might be more like karma. A good person gets a good next life as a reward. An evil person gets a hard life.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#34. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
Thanks for the info, will most certainly check it out.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#35. To: Armadillo (#26)
Download the first book PSUSA put on the thread (link in the article is wrong... corrected around post 7 or so). I'm on about page 80 and it's an interesting take.... assuming it's for real, and it seems candid enough, for what that's worth. The story I'm getting is that each new life is intended for continued spiritual growth, though some people can carry forward ills and elements from one life to another. Things like chronic physical pains in the body of this life being traced to the method of death in the previous life. If reincarnation were real, it might be more like karma. A good person gets a good next life as a reward. An evil person gets a hard life. But I dont buy that either.
#36. To: Pinguinite (#29)
probably the hardest question to answer and the answer may only be answered within your own faith. There is no valid reason to believe any holy book. Personally I believe the Bible is the word of God but I also understand it was written and edited by men. One must also look at dispensation or the time frame it was written in. So what's the real, valid reason to believe the Bible?
As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."
#37. To: abraxas, farmfriend (#27)
I do agree with that, and have said before that from Gods perspective death may be the birth of a soul. If we carry that analogy forward, babies dont return to the womb ever. Why would a soul return to a body?but on the other side death isn't looked upon as bad.
Birth is not fun for a baby, probably terrifying, but we celebrate it.
Might death be seen the same way by God?
Once born into Gods presence, nothing more is needed.
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#38. To: Armadillo (#22)
Well, I am certainly not an expert on this. I'm stumbling thru life like everyone else. All I can do is give some of the info that the books give, and these are all taken from the authors case histories, and to me they do make sense. What they say, and I already agreed with even before reading these books, is that we learn more, we advance more, thru trials. Going thru these trials, that I then learned that we choose for ourselves before incarnating, make us stronger. I know, going thru this is not easy. Some have it worse than others, but knowing that does not make the situation any easier while WE are fumbling our way thru our own shitstorms. I dont buy that. If reincarnation were real it would have to be involuntary. If you don't but that, that's fine. But, it is all voluntary, from what I read, and to me what I read does make sense. Earth is known as a hardship post, for which we volunteer. And I too have thought many times, because reincarnation is not a new idea to me, is "WTF did I get myself into! What was I thinking when I decided to come here?!!?" Reincarnation raises some difficult questions. If our souls choose who we come back as, why would any choose to come back as a 14-year-olds baby drowned in a toilet at birth? Or anyone with a sad life?
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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#39. To: PSUSA2 (#38)
you know what? it's the starlings and blackbirds, again... i'd rather watch them and marvel, rather than explain them. I'm stumbling thru life
#40. To: lead.and.lag (#39)
Yeah, balance is not easy to maintain. I seem to appreciate explanations more than just marveling.
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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#41. To: PSUSA2 (#40)
well, you cant know everything. can you? I seem to appreciate explanations more
#42. To: PSUSA2 (#40)
you got to take a little comfort from humans' limitations, dont you? not only comfort, but (i hate to use this word) joy. what could be more joyful than the starlings?
#43. To: PSUSA2 (#40) (Edited)
my dad and i climbed the hill across the road from the house, we could see most of the valley. my dad was a skeptic of most everything, a destroyer, a hypocrite, but we just stood there, looking at... what made us, i guess. we didnt say anything.
#44. To: lead.and.lag (#41)
can you? Not everything. But I despise those that give BS answers. If I didn't, I wouldn't be so anti-authoritarian and cut myself off from the herd mentality as much as I have. Hell, I'd be a useless republican millionaire chickenhawk that goes to a megachurch. Consider 2 paths; the right hand and left hand paths. The LHP is where satanism gets placed, and the RHP is where things like christianity and wicca get placed. A motto for the LHP is "I want to know". A motto for the RHP is 'I want to be known". The LHP is where it's at. But it is lonely at times. The RHP has it where fellowship is concerned. well, you cant know everything.
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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#45. To: PSUSA2 (#44)
sometimes you should just relax and enjoy the ride.
#46. To: PSUSA2 (#44)
you seem to be someone who's looking for answers. maybe there arent any.
#47. To: All (#46) (Edited)
if there's ever gonna be an answer, it would be justice. justice doesnt explain the starlings, though.
#48. To: Armadillo (#37)
I do think birth to the elemental body the harder than death to the elemental body. Souls return because they have work to do. Consider that the only change a soul can initiate is in the strand of time and not outside of it for outside all is one. If this is the case, souls would desire to return to the body again and again and again in order to evoke the lessons and level of being necessary to get to the final destination beyond the time stream. Perhaps, we cannot remain in that presence/state if we have not mastered our lessons on this plane. Where is the womb of the soul? Is is the same womb as the elemental body? I don't think so. Perhaps death of the elemental body allows the soul to return to the womb. : ) If we carry that analogy forward, babies dont return to the womb ever. Why would a soul return to a body?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#49. To: Armadillo (#37)
An interesting thought indeed. I guess there's an assumption by some that souls are created through conception and/or birth. If that's the case then I could see incarnation being a one-shot deal (though maybe "incarnation" is the wrong word since that implies a fusing of soul and body instead of the creation of a soul). But if souls exist prior to conception/birth, then incarnation is the right word, and in that case, the reasonable question might be, if it can happen once, why not multiple times? Does something change or break once incarnation happens once? Or maybe a "you can't get there from here" type thing. I guess that would be the christian answer. and have said before that from Gods perspective death may be the birth of a soul. Birth is not fun for a baby, probably terrifying, but we celebrate it. Might death be seen the same way by God?
If we carry that analogy forward, babies dont return to the womb ever. Why would a soul return to a body?
#50. To: Pinguinite (#31)
I'm not married but a late friend of mine who did scientific developmental research for the U.S. government, found telepathy communication to be of interest and even suggested trying it on me. He said that some things unspoken of, were better yet told by (telepathic) natural communication. I do believe in that too. I had told him about my dreams of flying into the universe and seeing the planets. He had also had dreams of flying into the universe and it was what compelled him to study electromagnetivity (theory he researched under Michael Farraday) and an interest in magnetic energy of humans such as spontaneous combustion, telekinetic energy and the theory of law of relativity and universal gravitation (theory by Isacc Newton).
#51. To: PSUSA2, farmfriend, octavia, Original_Intent, purplerose, Armadillo, abraxas, FormerLurker (#0)
Found some youtubes of this guy, the author of the books linked above, Michael Newton. Seems very down to earth, objective and credible, in spite of the subject matter. These interviews seem to be a good summary of the first book, at least. If he's for real then... wow.... It changes *everything*, to put it very mildly. I'd like to get some more verification on who and what this guy is.
#52. To: Pinguinite (#51) (Edited)
Thanks for posting those. I will watch them later. He has been doing this for years, and I had no idea this was happening until recently. I knew of past life regression, but this seems to be something new. I found other books the supposedly teach about the afterlife, but they are all (so far) based on religions, and not science. Totally worthless. I'll take the word of a scientist over a theologian, any day. IMO he is honest. That is because he admits it when he makes errors. How rare is that? He lets his clients tell what they know. And, imo the scientific method is so much better than the religious 'faith' of any religion, and not just christianity. Here is where I originally found them. It's a rather eclectic library. www.spiritualgateway.net/...Spiritual%20Communication
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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#53. To: PSUSA2 (#52)
IMO he is honest. That is because he admits it when he makes errors. How rare is that? I've heard of this also but not about regression between lives. This guy documents and analyzes information he gets from his cases which apparently paints a very consistent picture of that part of life. While having people under hypnosis give individual accounts of past lives, I'm guessing most of those cases would be difficult to verify with historic information, and there's always the question of whether a subject is simply recalling facts from past studies to fill in an invented story of a past life, so there's significant room for doubt. Yes, most religions are based on abstract beliefs, and people believe them or not based on how well the presented belief system rhymes with their emotions or past indoctrination. This guy, on the other hand, compares first hand "witness" information from many, many sources and what he concludes, though he seems careful to avoid doing even that, is objectively done based on these first-hand witness accounts. ("First hand" being what separates this from just about all evangelism of every religion under the sun). I'm about 230 pages through the first book you linked to. In both that and these interviews he comes off as very credible and objective, letting the subjects speak for themselves and not trying to make them say things that conform to any preconceived ideas he may have. I like how he responds to questions about the after (between) life, not by saying "yes this is how it is" or "no that's wrong" but instead says things like "I have never had a case tell me that notion is true". The objective part of me wants to poke holes in this guys account. Could he be a fraud? If he is he's a very good one. With the degree of consistency in what he's reporting, there should be other hypnotherapists who should be/are able to independently verify what he's saying. It should not be hard to do at all. If this is for real, it's truly the biggest game changer ever for what life is all about. He has been doing this for years, and I had no idea this was happening until recently. I knew of past life regression, but this seems to be something new. I found other books the supposedly teach about the afterlife, but they are all (so far) based on religions, and not science. Totally worthless. I'll take the word of a scientist over a theologian, any day.
#54. To: Pinguinite (#53) (Edited)
Agreed, and where there are possible inconsistencies that he points out, well, he points them out instead of either not telling us or saying the client is mistaken somehow. I personally expect some inconsistencies, since we all have a different POV, even if we experience the same thing(s). If it took me this long to find this author, and I have been looking for answers for decades now without ever hearing of this man, I bet there is more out there that I haven't found yet. Why did it take so long? Hell if I know. It is interesting how this possibly meshes with my admittedly simplistic understanding of Crowley and the Golden Dawn .org, in that they seek communion with their "holy guardian angel" in order to find their "True Will" in life, with that True Will being what we were sent here to do and learn. his guy documents and analyzes information he gets from his cases which apparently paints a very consistent picture of that part of life.
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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#55. To: Pinguinite (#53)
I have to agree with your assesment and add that for thousands of years this has been a common belief system with some of the worlds largest populations, India and China. From what I've read, the early christian assemblies were also on board with this in Alexandria circa 50 bc to almost 320 ad. It wasn't untill the Roman Catholic church raised it's heavy hand and squashed this out that the majority of the world held this as the truth. Unfortunately, as with most organized faith systems, dogma manages to push aside the real truths and we are left with childrens stories. If this is for real, it's truly the biggest game changer ever for what life is all about.
#56. To: PSUSA2 (#54)
The Seat of the Soul by Gary Zukav is excellent. : ) I bet there is more out there that I haven't found yet.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
#57. To: abraxas (#56)
Thanks! I'll see if I can find it.
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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#58. To: PSUSA2, octavia, Original_Intent, Pinguinite, farmfriend, purplerose, Armadillo, abraxas, FormerLurker, lead.and.lag, 2dollarbill (#0)
"Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked I shall return there." (Job 1:21) I've long thought that the concept of the Resurrection was a re-marketing of the idea of the soul traversing Creation in different forms. The fine line difference between the two ideas sits on taking responsibility for the existence of one's very soul. In the rebranded version, since Jesus died and rose for us, it's easier to absolve one's self of responsibility for misdeeds and shortcomings. If I take the idea that I'll be back in some form or another as a serious one, it makes me watch my p's and q's a lot more. Even if it's not true, my life and the life of those around me will be better anyway. Great thread. All this talk of love and mercy is highly inappropriate for Christmas, though. : )
#59. To: PSUSA2 (#54)
You and me both. As for why it took so long, the answer would seemingly be because you weren't supposed to find out any sooner than you did. Thanks for starting this thread. Finished the first book. A few of the hypnotic interviews are kindof funny, which I never would have expected. and I have been looking for answers for decades now without ever hearing of this man, I bet there is more out there that I haven't found yet. Why did it take so long? Hell if I know.
#60. To: Pinguinite (#59) (Edited)
Agreed, but that is sure to make me angry, at first. Then I'll eventually laugh about it, because it fits. Humor helps, even if it's at my expense. And, since I see this as being probably true because it already matches what I see, at least I found out about it. But I have to say "probably true", since I thought that about some other things in the past that I don't see as being true anymore. I read that book about as quickly as you did. It was hard to put down. . As for why it took so long, the answer would seemingly be because you weren't supposed to find out any sooner than you did.
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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#61. To: PSUSA2 (#60)
Finished the second book just now. What I really like is just how everything I've ever experienced, witnessed or considered, whereas it previously just created a lot of confusion, now with this information all falls into place and there is now agreement between all. Some things I've privately *thought* must be true but which I could not explain how, are explained well with Newton's information, so that makes me feel real good. Newton also shows me where I was assuming things which, according to his reports, are not so. Thanks again for posting this thread. Like you, this is something I've been looking for for quite a while. Cheers...
#62. To: PSUSA2 (#0)
Reincarnation? LOLOLOLOL! Do you have any straws left to pull out of your ass?
#63. To: Pinguinite (#61)
You're welcome. And like you, there were things I thought were true but could not really prove any of it; like choosing to come here, to learn and not be coddled, etc. The 2nd book had a lot about colors, which I personally found boring, but it also fleshed out the info in the first book too. So, it looks like I have no real reason to complain about things. It looks like we volunteered for this. That sure does generates some "mixed feelings".
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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#64. To: Cornhuskerkid (#62) (Edited)
I never heard it phrased that way before. It must be a Jersey... I mean a Nebraska thing. Boring state, nebraska. The only thing to do is count how many times one crosses the Platte "river". Do you have any straws left to pull out of your ass?
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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#65. To: PSUSA2 (#63)
There was certainly a lot there and I'd benefit from a second reading of both books sometime, but I'll have to return to more mundane duties for the moment. Yes more details are in book two. He goes into the one issue which is still a perplexing about causality. Our futures seem largely set in advance, and yet our actions obviously impact other players and we still have free will. Those 3 things don't seem to mix too well to me. Newton gives his best answer on that but in the end he's speculating as much as we would be. Yes, Newton does paint a picture where no one can ever rightly complain about anything that happens to them. I say he "paints" a picture but of course it's simply based on what his clients tell him. Seriously makes me consider changing careers into hypnotherapy. Not too much unlike computer work. Both analytical problem solving and "programming". Or "deprogramming" in this case. I dug around a bit more and there is an institute with Newton's name on it with contacts for such trained people in, it seems, most English speaking countries, at least. The 2nd book had a lot about colors, which I personally found boring, but it also fleshed out the info in the first book too.
So, it looks like I have no real reason to complain about things. It looks like we volunteered for this. That sure does generates some "mixed feelings".
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