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Miscellaneous See other Miscellaneous Articles Title: The Psychopathic Influence Both the financial elite and their servants who maintain this system, appear to exhibit behavior that is consistent with symptoms associated with a medical disorder known as psychopathy.(*) Psychopaths, also called sociopaths, are categorized as those who exhibit superficial charm and intelligence, and are absent of delusions or nervousness. Their traits include: Unreliability Psychopathy is basically an emotional disorder. The book, The Psychopath, by James Blair, Karina Blair, and Derek Mitchell, states, "The crucial aspect of psychopathy is ... the emotional impairment." According to Dr. J. Reid Meloy's book, The Psychopathic Mind, although psychopaths don't feel emotion in a normal sense, they do experience boredom, envy, exhilaration, contempt, sadistic pleasure, anger, and hints of depression. Generally, those who believe it's caused by environmental factors use the term sociopath, and believers of the biological theory use the term psychopath. Psychopathy closely resembles Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD or APD) or Conduct Disorder (CD) as outlined in the DSM-IV. These disorders are detected using the Psychopathy Checklist-Revisited (PCL-R), the DSM-IV, and other diagnostics. These character types, comprise about 4% of the population and span every level of society. Psychopaths can be found in every race, culture, profession and class. Because the term psychopath has been used to describe APD types and sociopaths, in this chapter I'll use it as a universal label for these three character types. Later when I'm explaining how psychopaths always mask themselves when seeking positions of power, it will help to remember the following: If a rational person tries to apply their logic while trying to understand the reason for an objective or act of a psychopath, they will fail. This will be explained in more detail later. Likewise, when a rational person hears of the possibility that a massive lie has been told to a population by a trusted leader, and they attempt to use their logic to determine weather or not such a lie is possible, they will usually not believe the truth (that they have fallen for a huge lie). The reason for this is that although most of us can identify with small lies, we find it difficult to conclude that such a massive lie is possible. When I use the term massive lie, I don't just mean a complete falsehood regarding a major event, but also the scope of its influence (global) and the amount of people that have fallen for it. In his book, The Mask of Sanity, Dr. Hervey Cleckley, says that even during the most "solemn perjuries" they show "no difficulty at all in looking anyone tranquilly in the eyes." He adds that that they will "lie about any matter, under any circumstances." He explains that it is difficult to express how completely straightforward they appear when telling a blatant lie. "The great masses of people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one." -Adolph Hitler "Lying, deceiving, and manipulation are natural talents for psychopaths," agreed Dr. Robert Hare, in his book, Without Conscience. "When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they are seldom perplexed or embarrassed--they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be consistent with the lie." Psychopaths are always able to justify their actions, no matter how brutal. They have, "an ability to rationalize their behavior so that it appears warranted, reasonable, and justified," says Dr. Cleckley. Dr. Hare added, "Psychopaths show a stunning lack of concern for the devastating effects their actions have on others. Often they are completely forthright about the matter, calmly stating that they have no sense of guilt, [and] are not sorry for the pain and destruction they have caused," which, says Dr. Hare, "is associated with a remarkable ability to rationalize their behavior." Psychopathy is usually untreatable. Most therapists won't work with them because they often end up damaged in the process. Dr. Hare explained, "Such counseling would be wasted on psychopaths." Some of them will even reflect the wishes of the therapist and pretend to be getting better. In his book, People of The Lie, psychiatrist Dr. Scott Peck had this to say: "Among themselves therapists will not infrequently refer to a patient's psychopathology as being 'overwhelming.' We mean this literally. We literally feel overwhelmed by the labyrinthine mass of lies and twisted motives ... into which we will be drawn if we attempt to work with such people..." Wikipedia describes that, "traditional therapeutic approaches actually make them, if not worse, then far more adept at manipulating others and concealing their behavior. They are generally considered to be not only incurable but also untreatable." Basically psychopaths are the way they are for life. In most legal jurisdictions they are considered sane. So technically, they're not mentally ill, just different. Dr. Scott Peck concludes, "I have learned nothing in twenty years that would suggest that evil people can be rapidly influenced by any means other than raw power. They do not respond," he says, "to either gentle kindness or any form of spiritual persuasion with which I am familiar with." Where Are They? When people hear the word psychopath, most think of the famous serial killers locked away in prison. However, most don't end up in prison or mental hospitals. Dr. Cleckley wrote, "The true difference between them and the psychopaths who continually go to jails or to psychiatric hospitals is that they keep up a far better and more consistent outward appearance of being normal." "This outward appearance," says Dr. Cleckley, is essentially a mask, which, "may include business or professional careers that continue in a sense successful, and which are truly successful when measured by financial reward or by the casual observer's opinion of real accomplishment." "Many psychopaths never go to prison or any other facility," agreed Dr. Hare. "They appear to function reasonably well--as lawyers, doctors, psychiatrists, academics, mercenaries, police officers, cult leaders, military personnel, business people, writers, artists, entertainers, and so fourth--without breaking the law." He continued, "Their intelligence, family background, social skills, and circumstances permit them to construct a facade of normalcy." "Corrupt and callous politicians, social or career fast climbers, authoritarian leaders, abusing and aggressive persons, etc., are among them" wrote Dr. Renato Sabbatini in his article, The Psychopath's Brain. "A common characteristic," says Dr. Sabbatini, "is that they engage systematically in deception and manipulation of others for personal gain. In fact, many successful and adapted non-violent sociopaths can be found in our society." Most of these people are not just right in your churches, schools, charitable organizations, and workplaces, but by their very nature, they are likely running them. It is a core trait of the psychopath to place themselves in positions of influence, not for public service, but for power. "The experience of pleasure is not reciprocal for the psychopath," stated Dr. Meloy, "it is available only through sadistic channels of power and control." Achieving power for the sake of having power is the nature of the psychopath. "They love to have power and control over others," agreed Dr. Hare. The need for absolute power over others and the wish to inflict pain for the enjoyment of watching others suffer, are almost never apparent to the casual observer. The reason for this is that another core trait of the psychopath is disguise. So unfortunately, these individuals usually mask themselves as good-natured people. If they have tremendous wealth, you can bet that they'll create charitable organizations as part of their mask. They are well aware that their mental makeup is drastically different from the majority. They have a sixth sense for detecting and exploiting any weakness you may have. At a very early age they learn that they can inflict mental and emotional harm on others with ease. They also learn how to detect others like themselves out of a crowd of normal people. Beginning in their childhood, most of them learn to mimic normal emotional reactions in order to blend in with society. An article on Dr. Hare's website called, Psychopaths Among Us, by Robert Hercz, describes how Dr. Hare was contacted by Nicole Kidman, who wanted his advice on how to play the part of a psychopath for her film, Malice. Dr. Hare uses the anecdote of a psychopath who had just witnessed an accident where a mother watched her child get killed by a car. There's blood all over the place, and the psychopath experiences no emotion, but instead, is trying to avoid getting blood on her shoes. The psychopath notices the mother's emotional reaction to the accident and is fascinated. She goes home, looks in the mirror, and begins to mimic the facial expressions of the mother. "That's the psychopath," revealed Dr. Hare. Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia, states that, "any emotions which the primary psychopath exhibits are the fruits of watching and mimicking other people's emotions." They are adept at, "using their charm and chameleonlike abilities to cut a wide swath through society and leaving a wake of ruined lives behind them," Dr. Hare warns. "More often than not," says Dr. Cleckley, "the typical psychopath will seem particularly agreeable and make a distinctly positive impression when he is first encountered. Alert and friendly in his attitude, he is easy to talk with and seems to have a good many genuine interests. There is nothing at all odd or queer about him, and in every respect he tends to embody the concept of a well-adjusted, happy person." "Psychopaths are often witty and articulate," concurred Dr. Hare. "They can be amusing and entertaining conversationalists, ready with quick and clever comeback, and can tell unlikely but convincing stories that cast themselves in a good light. They can be very effective in presenting themselves well and are often very likable and charming." Remember, most of them don't psychically hurt people, so this is about mental and emotional domination. To accomplish these objectives, they will use their mask of sanity to place themselves in positions within your community. These positions may include school boards, charitable organizations, churches, politics, law enforcement, or any position which they believe will offer them power over others. These are the places where most psychopaths end up, not jail. A Different Species Some researchers agree that the traits exhibited by these people produce a division stronger than age, race, and religion, which places them in a new category of people. In other words, these people are almost not human as we know it. The word antisocial does not describe someone who prefers to sit at home rather than attend gatherings. More accurately it means antihuman. Most people can't bring themselves to understand the mind-set of a psychopath. Dr. Hare explained, "Imagining the world as the psychopath experiences it is close to impossible." In his book, Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes, Dr. Andrew M. Lobaczewski wrote, "The pathocratic world, the world of pathological egotism and terror, is so difficult to understand for people raised outside the scope of this phenomenon that they often manifest childlike naivet�, even if they have studied psychopathology and are psychologists by profession." But, if you can, try to imagine someone who seeks power for no reason other than to have power, or someone who deceives just to experience the delight of having done so. Or someone who tortures another person physically or emotionally for the enjoyment of watching them suffer. Imagine someone doing these things, and not losing a moment of sleep at night (zero remorse). And add to all this, the ability to conceal themselves from an extremely naive public. Psychopaths are essentially aliens that look human. Probably one of the best skills to learn is how to detect and avoid a psychopath. "The typical person, of whatever nationality, wants only to enjoy success in his job, to be able to afford a reasonably high standard of living complete with leisure and travel," describes Gary Allen. "He wants to provide for his family in sickness and in health and to give his children a sound education. His ambition stops there," says Allen. "He has no desire to exercise power over others, to conquer other lands or peoples, to be king." He continues, "Since he has no lust for power, it is difficult for him to imagine that there are others who have [and] who march to a far different drum." He asks, "Why should we assume there are no such men today with perverted lusts for power?" In my opinion, we shouldn't because we know that they do exist, and consist of about 4% of the population during any period. "And if these men happen to be billionaires," ponders Allen, "is it not possible that they would use men like Hitler and Lenin as pawns to size power for themselves?" As I've demonstrated, true history supports this claim exactly. Dr. Hare refers to them as "intraspecies predators." "There is a class of individuals who have been around forever and who are found in every race, culture, society and walk of life," he says. "If you think about it," he adds, "you will realize that what is missing in this picture are the very qualities that allow human beings to live in social harmony." "It is not a pretty picture," he warns, "and some express doubt that such people exist." A 2005, report entitled, Antisocial Personality, Sociopathy, and Psychopathy, by North Carolina Wesleyan College, describes them as, "morally depraved individuals who represent the 'monsters' in our society. They are unstoppable and untreatable predators whose violence is planned, purposeful and emotionless." In addition to carrying out goal-oriented acts, the psychopath will also deceive and create chaos for no reason other than the enjoyment of doing so. "He will," says Dr. Cleckley, "in fact, commit such deeds in the absence of any apparent goal at all." This critical factor is often the one which baffles most rational people. When seeking an explanation for the behavior of a psychopath, they will attempt to apply reason. But, when dealing with a psychopath, we must understand that psychopathy is the reason. One day a scorpion and a frog were by a river's edge and both needed to get across to the other side. The scorpion said to the frog, "Mr. Frog, would you be so kind as to let me on your back as you swim across this river? I have important business to conduct on the other side and I cannot swim in such a strong current." The frog was a little perturbed and so began to question the scorpion's motives. The frog spoke, "Mr. Scorpion, while I can appreciate the fact that you have business to conduct on the other side of this river, please consider what you are saying." "You are a scorpion. You have a large stinger at the end of your tail. As soon as I let you on my back you will proceed to sting me which I might add IS your nature." The scorpion, ready for this, replied, "My dear Mr. Frog, it is clearly not in my interest to sting you at all! I do need to get to the other side and I PROMISE that no harm will come to you." Well, this made a great deal of sense to the frog, so the scorpion crawled on his back to make the trek across the river. The frog was making good time getting across when all of a sudden, in the middle of the river no less, the scorpion began to sting the frog repeatedly. The frog, shocked at this development, cried, "Why, oh why are you doing this? You said you needed to get to the other side to conduct your business!" The scorpion replied casually, "Mr. Frog, you said it yourself. I am a scorpion. I have a large stinger at the end of my tail. And yes, it is in my nature to sting you." Psychopaths in Politics If this 4% of the population exists at all levels of society at any given period, is it possible that some would seek top positions of influence? Of course. Remember, a need for absolute power over others is a core trait of the psychopath. Goal-oriented deceitfulness, superficial charm, an outward friendly appearance, and having no remorse, are other traits which will allow them to achieve their goals. If they are also people of tremendous wealth, they will definitely use this to further their objectives. And because deceitfulness is a core psychopathic trait, this will probably be done by creating a humanitarian front organization. Evil people are often busy building for themselves various fronts for disguise and to further their ambitions. Dr. Peck described, "They are likely to exert themselves more than most in their continuing effort to obtain and maintain an image of high respectability." So, unlike in the movies, evil does not reveal itself as the bad guy dressed in black, or the monster in plain site. Evil will very rarely expose itself to public light. It must hide. And it almost always hides under the guise of something righteous. In fact, rather than hiding in the shadows dressed in black, it disguises itself in suits, uniforms, and charitable organizations, which allow it to deceive us into thinking it's our savior. This enables it to cause far greater damage. "While evil may manifest itself obviously ... it rarely does so," Dr. Peck proclaimed, and added, "those who are evil are masters of disguise." Now let's examine the track record of the people who control the planet. They have created wars for profit and control, which have resulted in the deaths of millions of people, for which they exhibit no remorse. They've allowed attacks to occur, created depressions, and overthrown governments to further their ambitions. They have repeatedly lied about these events using the media, which they control, and academia, which they also control by their Tax-exempt Foundations. These wealthy people masquerade as the saviors of society. They disguise themselves using public front organizations, which appear to be humanitarian in nature. They've repeatedly not only lied about major historical events, but have deliberately created these catastrophes for their own benefit. Their own publications indicate that they plan to install a global dictatorship with them in complete control. These people are textbook psychopaths.(**) They are antihuman! Compared to regular law-breaking criminals, these people appear to be OK, on the surface. But as we've learned, lies, deception, and disguise are standard traits of those who are evil. "[They] come from the very highest social strata," wrote Allen. "They are immensely wealthy, highly educated and extremely cultured. Many of them have lifelong reputations for philanthropy. Nobody enjoys being put in the position of accusing prominent people of conspiring to enslave their fellow Americans, but the facts are inescapable." If you were to research the people throughout history that have committed atrocities against populations, you would probably find that most were psychopaths. Although mainstream history books do describe some of these events, they don't emphasize the pattern which they were part of. This pattern consists of a steady stream of psychopaths lying, deceiving and murdering their way to the top, which then resulted in the atrocities. This re-occurring theme seems to be the norm. Regarding this, Dr. Lobaczewski said, "We then usually reach the conclusion that the deed would not have taken place ... since the pathological factor sealed its occurrence or became an indispensable component it its origin. The hypothesis thus suggests itself that such factors are commonly active in the genesis of evil." He explained, "Within this interlocking structure, one kind of evil feeds and opens doors for others regardless of any individual or doctrinal motivations." Finally, he suggests, "Since pathological factors are present within the syntheses of most instances of evil, they are also present in its continuum." "Because their willfulness is so extraordinary--and always accompanied by a lust for power--I suspect that the evil are more likely than most to politically aggrandize themselves," described Dr. Peck. Dr. Sabbatini wrote, "Under stressing social situations such as in wars, general poverty and breakdown of the economy, sweeping epidemics or political fighting, etc., sociopaths may acquire the status of regional or national leaders and saviors... When they are in positions of power, they can inflict far more damage than as individuals." Professor Marrs commented, "Yet, in public, they impress us as men who are likeable, intelligent, refined, fair-minded, tolerant, thoughtful, kind, and gentile men who sincerely care about such matters as the environment, the plight of the hungry and starving overseas, the jobless, and the poverty-stricken. Moreover, they often are recognized as leaders in the legitimate quest for world peace and tranquility." He continued, "Many are active in church work and charitable organizations. Others give freely to good causes." Recognizing this facade, he added, "No one would suspect for a moment what actually goes on in the deep, dark recesses of their diabolical minds." Another extremely useful skill to learn is the ability to detect this pattern of decay in a nation under a pathological influence. Dr. Lobaczewski's book, Political Ponerology explains this pattern in detail. He has experienced this process personally while living in Poland under both Nazi and Communist occupation.(***) Once you realize that psychopaths control America and the NATO nations, the reason for endless wars and never-ending turmoil becomes clear. Once you understand the nature of the psychopath, it makes perfect sense. When psychopaths rule a society, it will exhibit their traits. Generally it will be heavily corrupted. But because deception is a primary trait of the psychopath, it will appear humane. Its traits can be observed from the highest level of government down to the street level. If you wanted to witness the madness of a civilization under psychopathic rule, you need not visit the state capital or a major city, because even the smallest village will exhibit these traits. When the controlling faction of a society is evil the sickness permeates into the lower levels. Immoral attitudes are projected, while moral ones are ridiculed, and enemies are created. The destructive process ends with a holocaust, genocide or persecution of some manner. The New World Order is such a movement. In November of 1975, Congressman Lawrence P. McDonald stated that the most important issue of our time is the "drive of the Rockefellers and their allies to create a one-world government, combining super-capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control." He warned that this drive is "international in scope," and "incredibly evil in intent." Ross wrote, "I don't know about you, but these ... activities seriously concern me, because my children and grandchildren will suffer many times greater than we do today under the control of these EVIL MONSTERS." [Emphasis in original] He added, "I have tried to find worse terms for them, but this is the best that I can think of to describe them." When a nation or other organization begins this process of evil, psychopaths and other deviants are attracted to it like a magnet. Like-minded individuals are installed in key positions of influence. Regarding the current epidemic, this would include the federal agencies which are allegedly carrying out these Cointelpro operations and hitting people with Non-lethal Weapons, as well as the citizen networks which stalk targets in public. As already demonstrated, you must capture the streets and a percentage of the population in order to install a dictatorship. To do this, a portion of the society is selected to enforce the dictator's rule on the street level. Historical evidence suggests that this portion usually consists of the core operational centers of a society, e.g., factories, hospitals, schools, civic centers, religious organizations, law enforcement, utility companies, stores, etc. Dr. Lobaczewski described this in the following way: "The actions of this phenomenon affect an entire society, starting with the leaders and infiltrating every village, small town, factory, business, or farm. The pathological social structure gradually covers the entire country, creating a 'new class' within the nation. This privileged class of deviants feels permanently threatened by the 'others.'" The "others" are apparently the people who have been targeted for persecution. The Hidden Evil It's very difficult to describe with words an event that must be experienced in order to understand. The event I'm referring to is the observation of the psychopath or psychopathic system in its true form, after the mask has been removed. It can be described as something deeply horrific. This is a gut-wrenching experience for a normal person, and can cause severe trauma, especially if they can't escape it. "If someone has personally experienced such a nightmarish reality," says Dr. Lobaczewski, "he considers people who have not progressed in understanding it within the same time frame to be simply presumptuous, sometimes even malicious." "This experience," he continues, "[is] unceremoniously rejected by ... [people and] becomes a psychological burden for him, forcing him to live within a narrow circle of persons whose experiences have been similar." This encounter with a psychopathic element has been the experience of many Mobbing and Hidden Evil targets across the planet. McKinney wrote that one objective of these harassment campaigns is to instill a perverted sense of loyalty toward the agency responsible for the harassment. This makes perfect sense when the pathological factor is considered. "Sadistic control is also an element of perversion," wrote Dr. Meloy, which is an indication of "psychopathic disturbance." McKinney also mentioned that these agencies appear to treat their targets as objects while harassing them. "Psychopaths view people as little more than objects to be used for their own gratification," explains Dr. Hare. "The weak and the vulnerable--whom they mock, rather than pity--are favorite targets." This helps to explain the reports of people being targeted by the Hidden Evil for no particular reason, other than being decent. A psychopathic program will target such people. Just as the creators of this program are masked as humanitarians, the program itself is masked as beneficial and necessary. Naive individuals who participate, may not immediately recognize this. But a percentage of those who control the weapons which torture civilians (it takes a psychopath to do this), as well as those on the lower levels who follow and harass targets, are psychopaths. And they're aware of the true nature of this program. That's why the joined. "The outer layer closest to the original content is used for the group's propaganda purposes," says Dr. Lobaczewski. "Average people succumb to the first layer's suggestive insinuations for a long time before they learn to understand the second one as well." "Anyone with certain psychological deviations," He explains "especially if he is wearing the mask of normality ... immediately perceives the second layer to be attractive and significant; after all, it was built by people like him." The pathological factor also helps to clarify why people who are, arguably, more spiritually and morally evolved than the masses, are being identified and targeted. According to Dr. Lobaczewski, these types of individuals are the first to be targeted in regimes controlled by psychopaths. Dr. Meloy explained that the psychopath's "perception of others' pleasures arouses only envy and greed in themselves." And that they receive, "gratification of sadistic impulses through intentional infliction of emotional or physical pain upon others." "Psychopathic individuals who never enter psychotherapy are paradigms of this hatred of goodness," says Dr. Meloy. According to Dr. Meloy, although envy is not consciously felt, it is the driving force for the motivation of their destructive behavior. He describes this behavior as "manipulative cycling" which includes a "mocking, [and] controlling attitude" while attacking their targets. "The manipulative cycle," explains Dr. Meloy, "both enhances his narcissism and protects his vulnerability." This cycle is ongoing because the threat to the inflated self is ever present. He describes this cycle as a purification process for the psychopath. "The desire to control and degrade the actual object . . . may be fueled by the sadistic pleasure inherent in the behavior," he says. The mocking and controlling behavior exhibited by these federal agencies against their targets, appears to be part of the manipulative cycling which Dr. Meloy speaks of. This makes even more sense when we consider Dr. Lobaczewski's premise, which states that the controlling psychopathic faction of a society (the financial elite), will recruit lower-level psychopaths to do their bidding. These lower-level deviants naturally seek employment in law enforcement, security, the military, politics, or other positions which they believe will offer them power. Summary A small portion of the population have a psychological makeup which is much different than most. They are completely aware of their difference. They also know that most people are not aware of this profound separation. The difference includes an emotional deficiency, accompanied by a lack of remorse, which allows them to operate outside of standard moral boundaries. They are able to conceal this difference to some degree and usually appear to be generous and friendly. They consistently engage in antisocial behavior which includes destroying people's lives, in order to feed their inflated egos. During this process they frequently enjoy mocking their targets, which they see as weak, or are envious of. They will inflict pain upon others for no reason other than the enjoyment of doing so. They span all levels of society. Some authors consider them to be a different species of humans. Psychopaths naturally gravitate toward positions of power. Many historical atrocities were caused by psychopaths. An organization or nation under a psychopathic influence will become saturated with its sickness. It will exhibit these destructive traits, from the upper levels, down to the smallest village. The Hidden Evil is a psychopathic program which exists in a society controlled by psychopaths. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
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There have been numerous psychologists and psychiatrists that have assessed Obama as having this condition, but it's evidently too painful for the American 'psychi'. :-)
Great analysis of our rulers. (God help us) Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson Reminds me of a write-up someone did on Bill Clinton on Skolnik's site back in the day.
Christine, Thanks for bringing this to the forefont agian. This is just a powerfull subject that needs to be brought to light in everybodies life. We, all people, in every nation, at every point in time, have been under the influence, or, have had some one in our life that has had this issue. I asked for some old posts today and was inuidated with the reading material I recieved. It is amazing how much we know, but seem to be powerless to counteract its' effects. The first observationtion that just puchened me right in the gut, was someone said, "without these psychopaths, civilaztion would not have happened". I believe they were right. Without the emotion, the carelessness, the feelings, most of us don't have the guts to do what needed to be done to set up a community. Disagree if you want, but I believe it is true. Move forward 10 thousand years or, whatever, who knows, what do we do with these people who are now destroying what we have come to know as comfortable? It's a damned if you do, and damned if you don't situation. OK, we make laws. The Psychopaths break them, the normals alway live by them, but we stagnate. This to me, is the most complex problem humans have never dealt with and need too. There is a solution, we have just not found it.
in the best of all worlds, where would our "civilization" lead us?
what i'm driving at, here, is that so far, our "civilization" hasnt accomplished much other than giving us the means to exterminate ourselves. it's made the psychopaths immeasureably more powerful... that's not progress.
so now we got freedom4um, which was apparently set up to screen psychopathic racists for leadership positions in the race wars once those wars become necessary... necessary as a distraction from the ongoing destruction, as every last nickel is sucked out of america before the looters flit off to their refuges. our only hope seems to be the vanity of the looters, who are likely to value their own precious little necks enough that they dont render the planet uninhabitable. reagan used to put me into despair, and the best i could come up with was a painting... bare dirt, sea, and sky... "they did it once, they can do it again... the dirt, the sea and the sky"... implying that if psychos like reagan sterilized the earth, therre might be enough time left to start over. lately i've decided that there's only one point to human existence, and that's to hang around until somebody figures out what the point is.
L&L, If not Reagan, then it will be someone else I suppose. I think the point is, there is no point. The human mind reads too much into it's own self worth. This whole excercise has me asking another question, has psychopathic behaviour been observed anywhere else in the animal kingdom besides in humans?
looks to me like nature is psychopathic... it behaves as if it believes "might makes right". but nature's got a split personality, because it also seems to believe that "right makes might". applying this to humans, we come up with psychopaths being mighty enough to destroy the earth's capacity to skustain life, icluding human life... which is "might makes right" taken to such an extreme that it becomes wrong, at which point the rightness of "right makes might" takes over, and the mighty psyhcopaths die off, along with everybody else. once everybody and everything dies off, nature can make a note in its cosmic logbook, and move on the the next experiment.
once everybody and everything dies off, nature can make a note in its cosmic logbook, and move on the the next experiment. L&L, I got a chuckle out of you reply, Thanks. Your observations immediately got me thinking of the Tower of Babel, or even better yet, the Great Flood. It's Deju Vu all over again.
there's another theory floating around that explains human stupidity and its value as a survival mechanism... it's akin to the "dont put all your eggs in one basket" theory. if humans are stupid enough to believe a jillion impossible, contradictory, and mutually exclusive things, the odds are one of those jillion factions will be close enough to "right" to survive.
It's our ability to entertain any number of hypotheses to explain phenomena that has in part allowed us to progress materially. The other part is slavishly doing what we are programmed to do. Somebody posted the video profiling an experiment done chimps versus human kids where the subjects were taught to perform a series of manipulations on an opaque box to get an edible reward. Once the task had been mastered, the opaque box was replaced by an identical plexiglass box. The only difference between the two boxes was that in the case of the second box, the effect of the programmed manipulations was plainly visible to the operator. The chimps quickly figured out that most of the stuff that that the experimenters had them do to get a treat were just useless ritual actions. They had no effect on opening the box to get a treat. They had the box open in a trice and ran off with their snack. The human children reacted differently once trained on the opaque box. They transferred all of the motions that they learned on the first box to the second transparent box, even though most of the manipulations that they did with the second box were plainly ineffectual and had nothing to do with getting the box to release a snack. The hypothesis suggested here is that children are readily trained to accomplish reward-based tasks in an unquestioned, ritualized manner when taught to do so by adults. The corollary here is that adults are the same way when subject to training by figures of authority. We need folks who can process all of the possible mathematical, physical, mechanical hypotheses necessary to build a pyramid or an interstate highway system. But the teams of builders that build it can't be involved in discussing the best way to accomplish the task. They have to do more or less what they're told in order to get the job done. That seems to be true in the moral as well as the material sphere. I'll leave it for others to furnish examples. I've got to finish getting the house ready for guests or my better half will be on my case. She runs this show. I just do what I'm told. Merry Christmas, l&l.
merry christmas, randge
what a humorous and apropos ending to your discourse. the irony wasn't lost on me. ;)
at what point should i remind you that you tried to recruit me from liberty forum?
christine has banned me at least three times, maybe more times than that.. you got to wonder why, if somebody recruits you, they ban you. well, that's personal bullshit, that doesnt count for naything. if, howerver, we assume that christine is plugged into the common consciousness...
goddamned starlings
We know what side the bread is buttered on, christine. ; ]
And the representative was murdered for his insight and threat to the rulers. Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson i didn't know you were sometimes a butthole then. ;)
bein' a butthole is jus l&l's way of expressing affection
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