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Published: Dec 24, 2011
Author: lead.and.lag
Post Date: 2011-12-24 18:15:53 by lead.and.lag
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...and wish everyone "merry christmas"... the old man in a santa suit, the old lady dressed normally, hesitant, faltering, determined last year they passed out candy canes that tasted funny, this year they didnt pass out anything, and they seemed tired... there's three floors, fifty or sixty roooms all spread out... and ex-hsopital, seems like miles of corridors. but in the thirty seconds they were at the door, it seemed they'd gone downhill.
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#2. To: X-15 (#1)
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you never know what's going on with people, but i got the feeling this old couple were feeling like they'd started something they wish they hadnt, and this year all they wanted to do was get it over with.
There's a time to gracefully "retire" from activities that can't be performed any longer, they've reached their limit and should just let younger folks step up to the task. The world will continue to revolve and people fill in the shoes of their elders. At least, that's how it should work and does for the most part.
happy folks
#3. To: lead.and.lag (#2)
-Alex Kurtagic
#4. To: X-15 (#1)
that girlfriend was an "advocate", that was the name of the outfit... they went around to visit old people. i went with her and a couple college boys on a visit, we got to the front door, the old man was standing in front of one of those tall gas heaters, naked, drying himself after he'd taken a bath, spiffing himself up for the visit. seemed obvious to me that the old guy had put his bath off for as long as he could, dreading the visit. the girl and the guys snickered at the sight of this naked old guy drying himself.
#5. To: X-15 (#3) (Edited)
seemed to me that the poor old guy was submitting to do-gooder impulses of young people, on the theory that... what? we shouldnt discourage good impulses, even if they're misguided and intrusive and institutuonalized beyond any human recognition? i dont know.
#6. To: lead.and.lag (#5)
i dont know. Barring disease/accident, all of us face that future. I don't know either. I just wave and smile and make small talk with the other nursing home residents at the level they are capable of communicating with. we shouldnt discouraged good impulses, even if they're misguided and intrusive and institutuonalized beyond any human recognition?
-Alex Kurtagic
#7. To: X-15 (#6) (Edited)
i spose there was a time when old people were so integrated into the community that none of this well-intentioned bureaucratic horseshit was necessary.
#8. To: X-15 (#6)
i guess the worst part of it was, was the stilted conversation with the old guy. it was a great relief to everyone when we left him in peace.
#9. To: lead.and.lag (#2)
Bless them for their guts in doing something good and sticking to it. This year I'm going to go do some good that I don't hafta do. One of those deals where the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing, or something like that. Maybe that will dispels some of the sense of dread I feel coming on with the new year. you never know what's going on with people, but i got the feeling this old couple were feeling like they'd started something they wish they hadnt, and this year all they wanted to do was get it over with.
#10. To: lead.and.lag (#8)
That's all you can do, sometimes. it was a great relief to everyone when we left him in peace.
-Alex Kurtagic
#11. To: randge (#9)
just make sure you dont terrorize some poor old fuck whose room wont pass inspection. but then, i got to confess, i pretty much knew who it was when they rang the bell. I'm going to go do some good
#12. To: X-15 (#1)
What? No Ex-Lax? The nursing home that Ann is in had their Christmas party last Tuesday. Santa passed out gift bags to all residents, contained calendars/crackers/small blanket/shampoo/body spray/etc. Lots of happy folks :-)
#13. To: X-15 (#10) (Edited)
That's all you can do, sometimes. IT SHOULD NOT BE THAT WAY it was a great relief to everyone when we left him in peace.
#14. To: Original_Intent (#12)
Oh, they get the industrial strength "Drano" for that.
-Alex Kurtagic
#15. To: lead.and.lag (#13)
What is and what should be is written in the mission statement and operating manuals of the corporation running the nursing homes/Veteran's homes. It's up to family/visitors to fill in the small needs and necessities that corporate does not address. The residents have their rights, including their right to be eccentric to the point that outsiders occasionally find themselves in uncomfortable (to them) circumstances that are encountered in the facilities.
-Alex Kurtagic
#16. To: X-15 (#15) (Edited)
ah you're telling me that the culture that's caused the problem has codified the solution to the problem. that's a relief. statement and operating manuals
#17. To: X-15 (#15)
does it say anywhere in those manuals, "X, grandma shit herself again... clean her up, put clean pants and a clean dress on her, and dont listen to her mumblings about 9/11."?
#18. To: lead.and.lag (#17)
Unfortunately, yes, that's how the nurses' aides do their job. Like I said, it's up to family members to fill in the "other necessities", including companionship and visitation.
-Alex Kurtagic
#19. To: X-15 (#18) (Edited)
so you think nurses' aides will do a better job of caring for your Ann than your grandchildren would, assuming you have grandchildren that somehow are still human?
#20. To: All (#19) (Edited)
these old ladies... how do you read females, anyhow? they're sitting on a couch, waiting for something, maybe the bus... i'm slumped against the wall, resigned, calm, teling them i'm a songwriter, and there's lots of 9/11 stuff to write about. they listen, they dont accuse me of anything, but they seem doubtful. months later, i go into the common room for some reason... those same social old ladies are there, watching a movie... they are suspiciously friendly. is there something i should talk to them about?
#21. To: All (#20)
why the fuck is it that people who are incapable of doing anything but thinking are isolated?
#22. To: lead.and.lag (#21)
Thinking, the way you mean it, ain't a natural communal activity.
#23. To: randge (#22) (Edited)
well, i'm getting to the age wher i cant play baseball. or assemble an emprire, or fuck, or whatever. all i can do is sit here and wonder how badly i'v gone wong. assuming that i had a normal human family, i could pass my misteps on to whoever wias willing to listen. i'm completely sorry, randege, but maybe one of the reasons i enjoy you so much is because you[re such an idiot.
#24. To: lead.and.lag (#21)
I've got some real-time experience with nursing home situations. Staff promotes flu-shots/pharmaceuticals and the food served is not the healthiest you'd expect for the money. It has seemed that whenever a resident gets sent to a hospitaal for anything, they return to facility and die very soon after. why the fuck is it that people who are incapable of doing anything but thinking are isolated?
#25. To: lead.and.lag (#23)
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
#26. To: CadetD (#24)
it's a good thig that old people are killed before they can pass their wisdom (dubious as it may be) on.
#27. To: lead.and.lag (#23)
I been told that innumerable times. I'm in fact the supreme id-iot. I yam all id.
#28. To: Dakmar (#25)
i got to assume that you're a slimeball, and you know it, dagamar. totherwise you'd be able to make comical comments about PNAC and its need for a new pearl harbor.
#29. To: Dakmar (#25)
Dayum. Dak iz back. Time fer shits & giggles.
#30. To: All (#28) (Edited)
one loser after another, covering for the looters.
#31. To: lead.and.lag (#26)
I could go on forever about this topic...the seniors I speak with at my mother's place are mostly veterans or military wives who love the US government. They really do consider selves to be the "Greatest Generation" that defeated Hitler and saved the jews. People who work in that industry are some of the most brain-washed I've ever met. The corporate pc line has trickled down into their mind-set, or should I say mindless-set. before they can pass their wisdom (dubious as it may be) on.
#32. To: randge (#29)
"And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, 'Fear not: for behold, I bring unto you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the City of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.' And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host, praising God, and saying, 'Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
#33. To: CadetD (#31) (Edited)
that's why i dont talk to them. too bad the motherfucking truth seesps in, despiite their ego trips. They really do consider selves to be the "Greatest Generation" that defeated Hitler and saved the jews.
#34. To: All (#33)
meanwhile, dagmar is incapable of coming up with a witty comment about PNAC's need for a new pearl harbor. why is that?
#35. To: Dakmar (#32)
Merry Christmas, Dak!
#36. To: All (#34)
stupid motherfuckers
#37. To: randge (#35)
Merry Christmas randge
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
#38. To: lead.and.lag (#33)
My mother knows I'm a conspiracy researcher; one day she said that to the aide visiting her room....the sweet aide asked me about a few things specifically 9- 11 stuff. I answered sparingly, not wanting to make scene. I can tell the corporate management now knows I'm a nut by the way they speak with me. How dare I refuse flu-shots for my mother? too bad the motherfucking truth seesps in, despiite their ego trips.
#39. To: Dakmar (#37) (Edited)
want to explain why you cant come up with some juvenile comment about PNAC's new pearl harbor? Merry Christmas randge
#40. To: lead.and.lag (#39)
you go first... want to explain why you cant come up with some juvenile comment about PNAC's new pearl harbor?
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
#41. To: Dakmar (#32)
Damn, you sure know your Charlie Brown, Bubba.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (
#42. To: lead.and.lag (#39)
please, you go first
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
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