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Title: Montanans Launch Recall of Senators Who Approved NDAA Military Detention. Merry Christmas, US Senate.
Source: OPED News
URL Source: http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/ ... by-Ralph-Lopez-111225-796.html
Published: Dec 26, 2011
Author: Ralph Lopez
Post Date: 2011-12-26 13:07:08 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 898
Comments: 62

Montanans Launch Recall of Senators Who Approved NDAA Military Detention. Merry Christmas, US Senate.

By Ralph Lopez (about the author)

opednews.com

Disclaimer: I am now a volunteer press contact for this campaign.

From the press release:

Moving quickly on Christmas Day after the US Senate voted 86 - 14 to pass the National Defense Authorization Act of 2011 (NDAA) which allows for the indefinite military detention of American citizens without charge or trial, Montanans have announced the launch of recall campaigns against Senators Max Baucus and Jonathan Tester, who voted for the bill.

Montana is one of nine states with provisions that say that the right of recall extends to recalling members of its federal congressional delegation, pursuant to Montana Code 2-16-603, on the grounds of physical or mental lack of fitness, incompetence, violation of oath of office, official misconduct, or conviction of certain felony offenses.

Section 2 of Montana Code 2-16-603 reads:

"(2) A public officer holding an elective office may be recalled by the qualified electors entitled to vote for the elective officer's successor."

The website Ballotpedia.org cites eight other states which allow for the recall of elected federal officials: Arizona, Colorado, Louisiana, Michigan, Nevada, North Dakota, Oregon, and Wisconsin. New Jersey's federal recall law was struck down when a NJ state judge ruled that "the federal Constitution does not allow states the power to recall U.S. senators," despite the fact the Constitution explicitly allows, by not disallowing ("prohibited" in the Tenth Amendment,) the states the power to recall US senators and congressmen:

"The powers not...prohibited...are reserved to the States...or to the people." - Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

The issue of federal official recall has never reached the federal courts.

Montana law requires grounds for recall to be stated which show conformity to the allowed grounds for recall. The draft language of the Montana petitions, "reason for recall" reads:

"The Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees all U.S citizens:

"a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed..."

The National Defense Authorization Act of 2011 (NDAA 2011) permanently abolishes the Sixth Amendment right to a jury trial, "for the duration of hostilities" in the War on Terror, which was defined by President George W. Bush as "task which does not end" to a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001.

Those who voted Aye on December 15th, 2011, Bill of Rights Day, for NDAA 2011 have attempted to grant powers which cannot be granted, which violate both the spirit and the letter of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

The Montana Recall Act stipulates that officials including US senators can only be recalled for physical or mental lack of fitness, incompetence, violation of the oath of office, official misconduct, or conviction of a felony offense. We the undersigned call for a recall election to be held for Senator Max S. Baucus [and Senator Jonathan Tester] and charge that he has violated his oath of office, to protect and defend the United States Constitution."

Montana residents William Crain and Stewart Rhodes are spearheading the drive. Mr. Crain is an artist. Mr. Rhodes is an attorney, Yale Law School graduate, and the national president of the organization Oath Keepers, who are military and law enforcement officers, both former and active duty, who vow to uphold their Oath to the US Constitution and to disobey illegal orders which constitute attacks on their fellow citizens. Rhodes said:

"These politicians from both parties betrayed our trust, and violated the oath they took to defend the Constitution. It's not about the left or right, it's about our Bill of Rights. Without the Bill of Rights, there is no America. It is the Crown Jewel of our Constitution, and the high-water mark of Western Civilization."

Rhodes noted that:

"Two time Medal of Honor winner Marine General Smedley Butler once said "There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. Time to fight. "

Butler famously ended his career as a Marine General by touring the country with his speech and book denouncing war, "War is a Racket." Butler confessed that he had spent most of his life as a "high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers...a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism..."

Eighteen states at present have recall laws, most of which do not apply to federal officials. For these and other states to recall federal officials, state legislatures would have to first pass or amend such laws.

Rising on the House floor to oppose the bill based on the military detention provisions for Americans, Rep. Tom McClintock said before the House vote:

" today, we who have sworn fealty to that Constitution sit to consider a bill that affirms a power contained in no law and that has the full potential to crack the very foundation of American liberty."

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders said in opposing the final NDAA:

"This bill also contains misguided provisions that in the name of fighting terrorism essentially authorize the indefinite imprisonment of American citizens without charges."

And in a New York Times op-ed piece by two retired four-star U.S. Marine generals, Charles Krulak and Joseph Hoar, Krulak and Hoar said that "Due process would be a thing of the past."

Montana would be the first recall drive to be launched as a result of the vote for the NDAA military detentions provisions. A number of Facebook pages appeared after the passage of the bill from locations across the country.

References:

Facebook: "Recall Every Congressman Who Voted for the NDAA"

"Recalling Senators and Congressmen"

"How to Recall US Senators and Congressmen"

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#21. To: abraxas (#17)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   15:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: abraxas (#17)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   15:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: abraxas (#18) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   15:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: abraxas (#18) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   15:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Eric Stratton (#21)

Don't care about your ex, a good chunk of Duhmerika is divorced, all I can say is that if people did better due diligence up front they wouldn't get divorced. I was very careful about who I married.

You must simply be morally superior to the lot of us in every way Eric. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   15:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Eric Stratton (#23)

Or are you that stupid?

Aren't all people stupid when compared to your vast and great intelligence Eric?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   15:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Eric Stratton (#22)

And I don't claim any moral highground,

Really? You might want to reread your posts dear.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   15:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: abraxas (#19)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   15:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Eric Stratton (#28)

a completely collapsed economy forcing people to get back to economic roots with the "freebie" predetermined wealth of the state having vaporized.

And what happens after the collapse? If the current state of affairs is any indication of the future.....we shall have tyranny and a complete police state. As the article states, this is what the legislation is laying the ground work for, so why do you belittle attempts to do something about it by folks in MT?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   15:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Eric Stratton (#23)

The argument then is what is this truly going to do?

The argument is that I think the people in MT attempting to get rid of the traitors who passed the bill are doing good work........you think they are not and have yet to offer a better alternative to what they are doing in response to crap legislation that sets us up for tyranny and a police state. That's the argument. I think they are acting in a positive and beneficial manner, you think that apathy and disgust mixed with nothing is better.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   15:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: abraxas (#20)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   15:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: abraxas (#25)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   15:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: abraxas (#26)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   15:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: abraxas (#27)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   16:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: abraxas (#27) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   16:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Eric Stratton (#32)

That's the kind of answer abraxas that says "I cannot reasonably respond to the points in the argument."

No, it is a direct response to your morally superior personal account of your superior marriage choice to which I find rude, arrogant and self righteous considering our personal discussions on this very matter.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   16:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: abraxas (#29)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   16:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Eric Stratton (#35)

I guess we're being left to assume that you truly are that gullible, naive, and stupid.

Who is this "we"...do you have a turd in your pocket? All are "truly" naive, gullible, and stupid when compared to your SUPERIOR being in all ways Eric. Of course, I don't mind your assumptions at all because I value both modesty and humility and consider them virtuous. : )

Enjoy your assumptions. One must really be SUPERIOR to pass such judgment upon others.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   16:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: abraxas (#30)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   16:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Eric Stratton (#37)

Again, apparently you are that stupid.

Damn honey, you really are stupid then.

Your Christian responses are so vivid today Eric. I hope your personal insults make you feel good and prop up your ego some more, not that it needs any additional support. lol

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   16:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: abraxas (#36)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   16:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Eric Stratton (#34)

PMS fest

LOL! You need the Midol today Eric, not me. I haven't personally insulted you over a political discussion......however, you have made up in personal attacks for the both of us. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   16:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: abraxas (#38)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   16:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: abraxas (#7)

I have yet to hear the fat lady sing......

And I won't sing, abraxas, until all the criminals are gone. I, too, support those willing to go after the traitors and rid themselves of the "tea towels"!!!

Phant2000  posted on  2011-12-26   16:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: abraxas (#42)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   16:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Eric Stratton (#43)

it was you that incited me implicitly

No, it is your ego that thinks all is about YOU, when the initial sentence clearly was directed at the AMERICAN PEOPLE as a whole as "us". Do you think I fail to include myself when I use "us" in a sentence? I don't. I'm careful on my preposition us. And, I don't call on a we to defend me.

In response, you have gone on emotionally charged tirades with insults of "stupid" and such with a "superior" position to everything, including a bunch of personal crap that had no relationship to the article or the "argument" .

Get a load of yourself Eric!!

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   16:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Eric Stratton (#45)

You have insulted me abraxas,

How so? By agreeing with my morally superior adversary quickly? Did I call you gullible and stupid and naive? Did I make superior assumptions and judgments about your marriage or your educating your children. No, I did not.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   16:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Phant2000 (#44)

I, too, support those willing to go after the traitors and rid themselves of the "tea towels"!!!

I support all that is contrary to apathy. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   16:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: abraxas (#48)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   16:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: abraxas (#48)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   16:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Eric Stratton (#49)

except what I'm doing in my/our apathy, by making tremendous financial sacrifices to see to it that our kids don't ever see the light of day of a publik classroom and that I don't funnel a fucking dime to the establishment other than what I'd get thrown incarcerated for if I didn't render it.

see how far these recalls go,

Way up on the thread I agreed with this INDIVIDUAL sacrifice and encouraged it......I just don't agree that it is ENOUGH. As we have discussed previously MULTIPLE times, I APPLAUD HOMESCHOOLING. Why you continue to harp on this as an issue is beyond me. Your imagined "insult" on this matter is in your head Eric, although you have done a fine job of projecting your imagined slight onto me.

At a time in our history when we can't trust the ballot box as a way to remove the traitors, a mid term removal action would be a blessing not only for MT for the entire nation!

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   16:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: abraxas (#51) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   16:44:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Eric Stratton (#52)

I think you need a break, you're starting to run circles around yourself.

Running circles around your diversions to personal insults and imagined slights. Yeah, I could use a break from that waste of time.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   16:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Eric Stratton (#49)

except what I'm doing in my/our apathy, by making tremendous financial sacrifices to see to it that our kids don't ever see the light of day of a publik classroom and that I don't funnel a fucking dime to the establishment other than what I'd get thrown incarcerated for if I didn't render it.

How is doing what you believe is BEST for your children and your family a "tremendous" sacrifice at all? What, exactly, is so important that you are "sacrificing" to do what you deem best for your children and your family? Why do you see yourself as a martyr for "tremendous financial sacrifice" in order to accomplish what you feel is right?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   18:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: abraxas, Eric Stratton (#54)

I put my boys in public school. Glad I did. They taught them something I could never have taught them through homeschooling, how to distrust people in authority.


As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-26   18:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: farmfriend, abraxas (#55)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   20:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: farmfriend (#55)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

—Samuel Adams

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-12-26   20:18:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Eric Stratton (#57) (Edited)

you have absolutely no idea what you lost by not homeschooling,

Yes, Eric, I do. It is extremely arrogant and short sided for you to suggest otherwise.

I think you meant post 55 for me as farmfriend hasn't offered insight into her feelings on home schooling beyond one comment. Whereas, you and I have discussed this many times......although you pretend to forget that I am an advocate for home schooling and carry on as if you are the only one who has any "idea" of what it means.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-12-26   20:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Eric Stratton (#57)

so while you seem to think that your comment was intelligent, it was really tremendously ignorant.

I am sick of your self righteous holier than thou crap.


As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-26   21:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: farmfriend (#59)

I am sick of your self righteous holier than thou crap.

You go girl!!! You and abraxas gave me one heluva gift for my b'day yesterday by running off the "self righteous holier than thou" crapster! At least he's been gone for the better part of one day.

Singing ... Oh what a relief it is ... hehehehe

Phant2000  posted on  2011-12-27   21:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Phant2000 (#60)

I left the forum a while back because of his crap. I've tried to avoid him for the most part since my return but a girl can only take so much.


As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2011-12-27   21:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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