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Title: Cleaning clergy brawl in Bethlehem
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/af ... fbd389f865660da24bb02616c9.261
Published: Dec 28, 2011
Author: g
Post Date: 2011-12-28 15:45:08 by PSUSA2
Keywords: None
Views: 167
Comments: 5

(AFP) – 2 hours ago

BETHLEHEM, Palestinian Territories — An unholy row erupted between Greek Orthodox and Armenian clergy on Wednesday over the cleaning of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, an AFP correspondent said.

Following Christmas celebrations, dozens of black-clad clerics from both churches, armed with brooms and cleaning materials, began to work on different parts of the church, built over the site where Jesus Christ is believed to have been born.

But an Armenian priest supervising the work thought that a broom held by a Greek Orthodox priest encroached on their space, and angry words swiftly became a fight.

Palestinian policemen at the scene intervened and the priests resumed their cleaning, an AFP correspondent said. A second fight was also quelled.

No one was hurt in the brawl, and police made no arrests.

The Church of the Nativity, like the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem's Old City, is shared by various branches of Christianity, each of which controls and jealously guards a part of the holy site.

Scuffles often erupt between Greek Orthodox and Armenian priests during joint religious or cleaning ceremonies. In 2007, seven priests were injured in a post-Christmas cleaning fight in the church.

The Church of the Nativity is built on the site where Christians believe Jesus was born in a stable more than 2,000 years ago after Mary and Joseph were turned away at an inn.

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#1. To: All (#0)

No vid, unfortunately.

But here's one that has to be more entertaining than watching these christfags hit each other with brooms. Brooms are for pussies! Real Men use coconuts.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-12-28   15:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA2 (#0)

But an Armenian priest supervising the work thought that a broom held by a Greek Orthodox priest encroached on their space, and angry words swiftly became a fight.

I dated a girl in Chicago for a short time. She said she was a Holy Roller. I asked her what that was close to. She said, "Holiness." ROTFLOL!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-12-28   16:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA2 (#0)

These spats and brawls - among monks and priests! - have been fairly common in the Holy Land for the last century or so. Competing churches and orders have laid competing claims to important shrines (especially those considered tourist attractions). Under the Ottomans a sort of truce was enforced wherein different parts of a shrine, or different tasks/ceremonies/days & hours, were assigned to the various claimant groups. These divisions were hardly changed under the British, Jordanians, and Israelis - although some of these groups became more or less populous or powerful elsewhere in the Holy Land or in other countries. In some instances outside political pressure - from Russia or Armenia for example - was brought on behalf of a claimant group. This was exacerbated when these shrines were under Muslim jurisdiction (Ottoman, Jordanian, or Palestinian), because the Muslim law of dhimmitude prohibited the enlargement of a Christian house of worship, which might have helped resolve some of these territorial spats.

The result is that each church group is extremely jealous and combative about its authority and connection with every inch of any shrine.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-12-29   2:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Shoonra, all (#3) (Edited)

You're right. It happens and probably for the reasons you state.

I had to look at the date to make sure it was current, because I remember this happening last year or maybe the year before. Perhaps it happens every year.

All this fuss, for a man that probably didn't even exist.

I, a Satanist, would like to offer my help in resolving this dispute. How about everyone relax, put down the brooms, introduce yourselves, shake hands, pour a drink of your favorite beverage, sit down, and act like adults.

ETA perhaps that is not such a good idea. They'd all beat me with their brooms.

This microcosm helps to illustrate the macrocosm.

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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll

PSUSA2  posted on  2011-12-29   6:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA2 (#0)

My mother used to hit me with a broom.

"There are only 800,000 state, local, and federal law enforcement officers in the entire country." - Vox Day

Turtle  posted on  2011-12-29   13:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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