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Title: Fox apologizes to Jews for Facebook poll on Jesus
Source: Bonston.com/NY Times
URL Source: http://articles.boston.com/2011-12- ... 9490_1_facebook-page-poll-jews
Published: Dec 29, 2011
Author: Michael Warren/AP
Post Date: 2011-12-31 18:09:22 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 314
Comments: 15

FOX Latin America has apologized for a poll on whether Jews killed Jesus Christ that one of its staffers put on a Facebook page promoting the National Geographic Channel’s Christmas special.

The poll asked readers who they think is responsible for the death of Christ: Pontius Pilate, The Jewish People or the High Priests.

The Simon Weisenthal Center in Buenos Aires calls it a defamatory reference to Vatican propaganda that “resulted in the persecution and murder of Jews for two millennia.’’


Poster Comment:

Big chimpin' going on by the followers of The Protocols. We can assume they are making an even bigger stink because a decent amount of people chose 'jews', but I wish we could see the results. Catholics outside the Jews' zones of influence, God bless 'em, aren't concerned about offending the kikenvermin.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

The Simon Weisenthal Center in Buenos Aires calls it a defamatory reference

Oh, let's see...

From the Jews and Hasidic Gentiles Site...

The Bible gave a warning about a dangerous, false prophet who would arise to test our faith in G-d. In Deuteronomy 13, G-d describes this false prophet as a member of the Jewish people (v. 2, 7) who would tell true prophecies and would have the power of miracles. G-d Himself would give this false prophet the power to perform miracles and reveal prophecy, but the false prophet would try to seduce the people away from G-d's Law and towards strange gods unknown to Judaism. The purpose would be to test whether we are truly committed to living under the Law, or whether we will be dazzled and fall for the temptation to join a false path to salvation (v. 3-6, 7-8, 11). In this Biblical passage, G-d repeatedly commands the Jews to kill this false prophet, lest the evil spread and destroy many souls.

In Deuteronomy 17, this false prophet is also described as someone who would rebel against the authority of the judges of the Jewish people, and who should be put to death for his rebelliousness (v. 8-13, esp. v. 12). Who are the judges? The highest court in Israel was the Sanhedrin, which was established by Moses (Exodus 18:13-26; Numbers 11:16-29), and which lasted more than 15 centuries. The members of the Sanhedrin were the rabbis known as "Pharisees" (Pirushim, "those with the explanation"). G-d gave permanent authority to these judges to interpret the Law and G-d's Word, and it is a commandment to follow their decisions without turning even slightly to the right or the left (Deut. 17:11). But the false prophet would challenge the authority of the Sanhedrin, thus revealing himself to be an evil man.

In the book of the prophet Daniel, this false prophet is described as a king (the eleventh horn on a terrible beast) who would wage war against the Jews (the "holy ones"; see Deut. 14:2 on this term) and would change the Law including the calendar and the holidays (Daniel 7:8, 20-25). Elsewhere, this false prophet is described as a king who would disregard the G-d of his fathers, exalting himself as a god and giving honor to this new god-head (Daniel 11:36-39).

The man known today as "Jesus" fulfilled all these prophecies. He became a "king" (over the Christian church) who changed the original Law, doing away with the Hebrew calendar and the Biblical holidays (Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Sukkos the Festival of Tabernacles, Passover, etc.). He disregarded the one, infinite G-d of the Hebrew Bible in favor of a new "trinity" that included himself. And he repeatedly broke the Law by committing terrible sins, while openly challenging the G-d-given authority of the rabbis of the Sanhedrin.

The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records sins of "Jesus the Nazarene":

He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh—which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

Christians are spiritually blinded, and cannot yet understand G-d's wisdom in the Bible.

Ours is the last generation of the era of sin and evil and the first of the Messianic Era. Indeed, for the first time in history, there is a growing consensus of leading rabbis willing to name the man most suited to be the Messiah, and they are agreeing that he is the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. The Rebbe is the spiritual leader of our generation, having boldly stirred up controversy over vital issues in which other leaders have remained tragically silent or have even caved in to the growing forces of darkness. He has upheld the Law perfectly and has worked mightily to strengthen the observance of the Law by Jews, as well as the observance of the Noachide Law by gentiles. Through his teaching of chasidus (Jewish mystical teachings, preserved from Moses and Mount Sinai), he has taught the world that G-d is One, the Infinite Who renews creation at every moment. The Rebbe is a direct descendant of King David and has received a true prophecy from G-d that we who are alive in this generation shall be the first in history to see the coming of the true messiah. Many Jews are eagerly anticipating the Rebbe's resurrection from the grave, ready to re-establish the Sanhedrin and anoint the king.

www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm

Let's see what Jews say/publish

My name is Tehiya Barak [tehiya means “resurrection”], a journalist, 28 years old, a Jew. During the past two and a half months I wore different clothing. A flyer, one of thousands that were distributed on the streets of Israel in the framework of a campaign run by “Jews for Jesus” sent me on a long-term journalistic mission: to infiltrate a Messianic Jewish congregation as a sister among the minyan [group].

For the duration of several long weeks I was thrown into a parallel universe. I turned into a fervent member of an ancient cult that combines a concoction of faiths, symbols, and messages from various religions. Our father Abraham with Yeshu, Old Testament with New Testament, prayer shawl with baptism, Israeli festivals with holy bread [the Lord’s supper, editor], and also a threatening satan, who lurks at every corner and appears in the form of man, jellyfish or evil inclination.

My Sabbaths were spent in ecstatic, long prayers, and the rest of the weekdays I dedicated to aggressive missionary activities and internal social events of the congregation. I won their trust, and they - slowly but surely - embraced me into their world.

Little by little a Messianic-spiritual world was exposed to me, which at its core lies a closed [closed?? That is an interesting observation! editor] and embracing congregation, at times mesmerizing, which forms a warm and sheltering home with not so few people who found it difficult to find their place in Israeli society - and a moment before they were crushed in its margins, found refuge in the bosom of Yeshu; despairing youth who had descended into crime, ultra-Orthodox Jews who left their way and suffered alienation by their families, lone soldiers, immigrants, foreign workers.

Tehiya relates that one of the Jews for Jesus members “connects me to a congregation, ‘Tiferet Yeshua’ in southern Tel Aviv that belongs to the ‘body of Messiah.’ The Messianic cults have been active in Israel since the last century and include thousands. Even though the Messianics view themselves as Jews, experts define them as a cult from the Christian world. They, from their side, maintain close connections with Christian congregations worldwide.

Tehiya was told by her Jews for Jesus friend: “this is a large congregation, with a lot of young people and a lot of the Holy Spirit. I am certain that you will be happy there.” And so, within a moment, my journey begins, which by its end I am sentenced to find myself confused and divided - Judas Iscariot woman that I am.

What Tehiya DIDN’T Say About Us!

By Shira Sorko-Ram

Although Messianic Jews are far from perfect, the accepted theological base for our faith is that without love we are but sounding brass and a clanging cymbal.

On the other hand, the state religion of Israel, Orthodox Judaism, teaches its adherents to love those who are similar in religion and to hate those who are different.

Lying, cheating, stealing and violent behavior is not acceptable to any congregation of Messianic Jews and those who are found doing so are seen as outside the fold.

In Orthodoxy, lying, cheating, stealing and violent behavior are acceptable if the goal is “worthy.”

One does not need to be a statistical genius to point out that Messianic Jews have the lowest crime rate of any community in Israel, including all other religious groups. A moral lifestyle is central to a Messianic believer.

Messianic Jews are encouraged to study at universities or learn a profession and work for a living and pay taxes.

A majority of ultra-Orthodox men do not work and do not pay taxes. On the contrary, their politicians agree to join government coalitions mainly in return for handouts from the taxpayer’s pocket to support their own non-working population.

Messianic Jews serve with pride in the Israeli Defense Forces, knowing we have a duty to protect our nation.

Ultra-Orthodox refuse to serve in the army, and some branches even refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the government of Israel, although willing to take government grants.

In a nation that suffers from severe corruption in the government, ultra-Orthodox politicians headed up by rabbinical authorities have been role models of corruption in every area of public and governmental service.

Think of it! In Israel, drug dealers, mafia, pimps, criminals and perverts are accepted as Jews. Gurus, witches and transvestites are part of the Jewish people.

But Messianic Jews, whose contribution to society is almost always positive, are despised and rejected by the establishment, and told they are not Jews.

Messianic Jews pray for their enemies.

The Orthodox curse their enemies.

Messianic Jews are being continuously persecuted, especially in Beersheva and Arad, and the police are doing nothing. In fact, after five months, the police have not even talked to the witnesses that have agreed to testify in behalf of Ami Ortiz, the youth who was bombed by ultra-Orthodox terrorists in Ariel because his father David is a Messianic pastor.

As one honest ultra-Orthodox man told David: “Mohammed doesn’t bother us. Buddha and Confucius do not bother us. No other religion really bothers us. But Yeshua bothers us. In fact he bothers us so much that one of our own was ready to kill you and your family.”

www.maozisrael.org/site/N...onIdr012=zrccaguq24.app1a

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-12-31   18:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#1)

"The Hebrews were divided into two main SECTS. Those who believed in the Torah and were the wealthy leaders of their society, were called Sadducees.

The other sect were a bunch of evil rabbis who were like modern day lawyers. These were called Pharisees. They used various frauds, lies and deceits in their interpretation of the Mosaic Law, in order to over-turn EVERY commandment of the Old Testament. Combining murder, blackmail and lies, they gained control of the Hebrew religion. Just like modern day lawyers, they were approached by the common people because they were successful at evading the Law. Thus, they became popular with the deluded masses of Hebes because they allowed sin and transgression to flourish all the while pretending to be holy men. They were the ultimate hypocrites. These Pharisees practiced various black arts of sorcery, the chief among these being known as the "Tradition of the Elders" where-by they claimed to have an Oral Law that only THEY knew which was passed down to them from the mythical Moses. This Oral Law, as they called it, later was written down as the Talmud. The Talmud is followed by EVERY Jew today as being higher than the teachings of the Bible.

Both the Sadducees and the Phaisees were condemned by Christ because they were both fools and devils wrapped into one. The Sadducees stuck to the literal law of the Old Testament while the Pharisees made up their own laws to over-turn the Mosaic Code. And what else can you call someone who overturns the laws of God and makes other laws that negate such Laws? What else but a devil or demon?

After the Romans expelled the Sadducees and the Pharisees from Jerusalem in 79 AD, the Sadducees became Christians and the Pharisees became what is known as Jews. These demons who hated the Laws of God while pretending to be holy people, these hypocritical Jews, are the creatures that we have inherited from the Roman Times. Jesus lumped both the Pharisees and the Sadducees into the same pile of shit. They were as different as dog shit and cat shit; that is, both were different only in type. Jesus brought a light to Israel but the demon Jews were both blinded by this Light and repelled from it by their own evil. It is a saying of the Jews that "when the Messiah comes, all power will leave Judah." Thus, the evil rabbis were not interested in seeing the Messiah. They only wanted to hold onto the power that they had been able to gather to themselves through their criminality. Thus, they rejected the Messiah and killed Him. And yet, even that was foretold. One of the amazing things about Jesus was that he fully knew what His fate was to be and he went through with it anyway. Jesus preached to the common people because the Sadducees and Pharisees were beyond redemption, just as the Jews of today are beyond redemption. And that which is beyond redemption, is consigned to the Fire.

Jesus and Hitler Told the Truth about the Jews."

-- Banjo_Billy

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2011-12-31   19:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#2)

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-12-31   19:09:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

I have a question. Can anybody answer .... is this a video of Goldie?

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-12-31   19:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#4)

goldie is not any where near that good looking


the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET

IRTorqued  posted on  2011-12-31   19:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#2)

"The Hebrews were divided into two main SECTS. Those who believed in the Torah and were the wealthy leaders of their society, were called Sadducees.

The other sect were a bunch of evil rabbis who were like modern day lawyers. These were called Pharisees.

Not two, but THREE sects.

The other sect were the Essenes, who were the spiritual sect, whereas the others were materialistic and political.

Jesus was more than likely an Essene.

Essenes


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-12-31   20:46:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: X-15 (#2)

they rejected the Messiah and killed Him.

They had Pilate kill Christ to get him out of the way by their long-serving blackmail trick of, in this case, pointing out to Pilate it would not go over big at all in Rome if it became known that Pilate was secretly part of a plot to do in old Caesar.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-12-31   23:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tatarewicz (#7)

Yes, correct. Tacitus wrote that the jews said they would publicly question whether Pontius Pilate was a "friend of Rome".

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2011-12-31   23:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: FormerLurker, 4 (#6)

Pliny relates in a few lines that the Essenes do not marry, possess no money, and had existed for thousands of generations.

Please give me the Blue Book on how this is done.

Thanks.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-12-31   23:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#9)

I think it said some did not marry and chose a monastic lifestyle instead.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-01-01   0:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: X-15 (#2)

Great post.

And, it reminded me of a song:

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-01   5:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#0)

It was the Jewish leadership and the local Roman government.

"There are only 800,000 state, local, and federal law enforcement officers in the entire country." - Vox Day

Turtle  posted on  2012-01-01   12:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: bush_is_a_moonie, Original_intent, angK, Phant2000, bluegrass (#3)

This woman is so full of sh_t it' ridiculous.

If you do the research on IQ you will find that Israel falls way down the list and is usually measured as 94 on average and this puts their country in aprox. 34 place among 80 nations. Asian nations score the highest. You cannot be an citizen of Israel if your mother is not Jewish, so any argument that this is not an accurate measure of Jews is fallacious.

When I bring up the disproportionate representation of Jews in Hollywood and the media, often I will be told it's because they are so smart.... F-ing bull sh_t and it can be proved by just a little research on IQ's of countries. No the facts prove just the opposite is true. There are many Jews who achieve high levels of education and success, but this is generally driven by cultural pressures similar to that of India for success and the pursuit of mammon. Jesus told us in the bible, "the love of money is the root of all evil". Well guess what folks. The Jews love money more than any other race and it also says in the bible in revelation 2:9 and 3:9 about the "synagogue of Satan".

Do you really think that the true children of God would be so war like and racist. Anyone who researches what Israel is like will find it the most racist nation on earth. No, we were told that God's chosen were the children of the man Israel who God named personally. We were also told that Israel would be the father of many NATIONS, yes it was plural. The geographical area called Israel is a whole different matter and so are "Jews".

http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

http://www.iqtestforfree.net/average-IQ-by-country.html

http://www.eutimes.net/2009/11/iq-by-country/

If you really want some interesting facts, check out the following:

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=4923

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-02   22:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: intotheabyss (#13)

Do you really think that the true children of God would be so war like and racist.

Nope ... and those joos holding themselves out to be "God's chosen people" are liars, frauds, cheats and evildoers.

Phant2000  posted on  2012-01-02   22:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: intotheabyss (#13)

OY VEY - You goyim are all alike. You need to remember your place.

library.flawlesslogic.com/goyim.htm

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2012-01-02   22:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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