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Title: An Open Letter to Ron Paul from Michael Rivero
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URL Source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/openletterronpaul.php
Published: Jan 3, 2012
Author: Mike Rivero
Post Date: 2012-01-03 00:07:23 by christine
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It is one thing to speak of principles and quite another to fight for them. Dr. Paul I am but one of the millions of Americans who supported you in 2008 and support you now. We have donated to you, volunteered for you, promoted you, defended you, and in a very real way fought for you. Now may be the time for you to return the favor. All across Iowa, alarming indicators are rising that those who wish to continue the nation down the path of fascism are preparing to steal the Iowa Caucus from you. We all know you are a gentleman and still believe in the ultimate fairness of our nation, but in this one regard I fear you are being dangerously naive. As the HBO Documentary "Hacking Democracy" illustrates, election fraud, always a reality in the past, is now epidemic across the nation. Iowa has a prior history of vote fraud shenanigans, as shown in 1996 when vote fraud shaved 13% from Pat Buchanan's totals all across the state, tipping the victory to Bob Dole. As I am fond of telling my radio audience, this election is not a gentlemanly contest. It is a bare-knuckles, knock-down, spit-teeth-in-the-gutter fight for the future of this nation, with a nuclear world war hanging in the balance. Your opponents espouse that God wants this nuclear war waged on the Arab world and the problem with politicians listening to those voices in their head is that they truly believe that lying, cheating, stealing, even assassination is no sin in the furtherance of what they claim is a divine agenda. Of course, we all hope that the voter turnout for you is so great that cheating will be impossible, and that we are headed for yet another "Dewey Defeats Truman" moment in history. But your sudden decline in the public media polls, with number arrived at through fraudulent means signals an attempt to "pre-sell" your defeat to the more gullible segments of the public. Rumors coming from Chicago, known for political skullduggery, that the Iowa votes will be counted in Illinois rather than Iowa, should send a clear warning signal that fraud is afoot. Dr. Paul, We The People stand with you. We ask that you stand with us, and if indeed, as appears to be the case, Iowa is stolen from you, then it is time to take off the gloves and fight for those principles which have attracted so much support for you. Because the vote stealers are stealing more than just a victory from you, they are stealing our nation from all of the people. They are stealing a life of peace from our children. They are stealing prosperity from us all. They plan an eternity of war for the world and if they succeed, none of us will ever live to see a time of peace again. If we do not choose to fight against these people now, we will soon have no choice but to fight for them from now on. Far more than just your political ambitions are at risk here. If the election is allowed to be stolen, then all we have to look forward to is nuclear war without and violent revolution within. If Iowa is stolen from you, we need you to be the leader we all know that you are and demand a recount by hand of all ballots. Michael Rivero
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It's been a few years since I've been to Eugene, but if I ever get back there, I'll let you know. I don't hate niggers just because of their skin color, I hate them because they're here. If they want to chop each other to bits with machetes in africa, as they love to do, they are more than welcome to do so. I won't lift a finger to stop them. To stop them would be racist, and I don't want to be known as a racist. That would be horrible! And obama is a worthless typical nigger, that Rivero fell in love with, and took every opportunity to sing his praises. Rivero's lips were surgically attached to obamas ass. Rivero is the one that should not be taken seriously here, but people have short and selective memories. -------------------------------------------------------- Rivero mea culpa'ed on his initial support of Obama, but I have to admit, it surprised me that he, of all people, was hoodwinked to that degree.
Same here. I used to go to his site a lot. Someone, probably multiple people, had to tell him, I mean HAD TO, that he was wrong, and showed him exactly where he was wrong. But he did it anyway, without reporting the other side, losing credibility along the way. But I'm sure he knows that people would eventually forget, that there is always something new to report, and how hard it is to keep track of this stuff. I equate this to cheating. Some say "I made a mistake". To me, it is an intentional act requiring many such "mistakes". It's not one action, but many actions. -------------------------------------------------------- Some people here voted for Clinton, and Bush (both versions). Repentencance works in my world, and I have to be honest, the words "zero tolerance" is to ignore the human condition we all come to this planet with. Rivero was way wrong, but If he has since rejected his Obama position, I call that changing an opinion based on new (and accurate) information. I voted for none of the people I mentioned in this post, but I'm OK with people who did and now recognize it was a mistake.
I disagree. I dont see it as a "mistake" but a deliberate series of actions to deceive and therefore influence voters. It has nothing to do with people making a choice in who to vote for. That is their business and no one elses, but it doesn't help matters any when there is deliberate deception involved in order to have a citizens vote influenced. The accurate info was already out there. He just didn't report on it. He deliberately refused to report on it. Falling on his sword after the fact is a PR stunt. -------------------------------------------------------- I don't know enough about Rivero to defend him, so I won't, but with average people who have since become informed and awake, I welcome them back home.
Agreed, and well stated. On camera, under Canadian international observers! And those responsible through negligence or intent of fucking up the count need to be held accountable. And you are without fault, right PSUSA? You've never made a mistake in your life have you. Going back to the early days of FR, where Rivero and myself used to research and post about OKC, TWA800, Waco, and other such events, I found him to be a man of courage and integrity. He valued the truth and did his best to find it and reveal it to others. What have YOU done other than slam people here on the 4um? Have you uncovered any facts that cause people to wake up, or are you just here to put them to sleep and/or anger them? I've made plenty of mistakes. I just have no problem admitting them. If I'm right, I'm right. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. What Rivero did was not a mistake. It was intentional, and over a long period of time. He valued the truth and did his best to find it and reveal it to others. What have YOU done other than slam people here on the 4um? Have you uncovered any facts that cause people to wake up, or are you just here to put them to sleep and/or anger them? Did I anger you? If I did, that's your problem, not mine. If you want to argue, then tell me he didn't constantly kiss obamas ass. It happened so much I was wondering if he got paid to do it, because he went above and beyond. And now he has the gall to tell Paul what to do? Fuck that. -------------------------------------------------------- One small amendment: BSUSA is in the hate and disinformation business - our local closet disinformation specialist. He's here to confuse, fog, and spread hate as means of driving people away from 4UM. BSUSA is many things but rational and humane do not reside among them. Like all good disinformation/agitprop/PsyOperators he does not do it 100% of the time as that would be too obvious, he does it just often enough to discourage, inflame, and drive away people looking for rational discourse. Perfect for your tombstone, hypocrite.
Or the alternative, which I think is closer to the truth, is that he despised Of course that kind of reaction is why MuckNutz's dead campaign was resurrected so as to put forth a Republican that COULD NOT POSSIBLY win the (s)Election. It is also why the establishment self-styled elites so fear Ron Paul - because Obama could never beat him in an honest election in a million years - unless voting was limited to unintelligent schmucks such as the unlamented Robin. Even hardcore liberals are now seeing in him what I predicted before his (s)Election i.e., that he is effectively Bush III. I haven't been paying attention to Rivero over the last several years, but I've always found him to do what he believes is the right thing. He actually nailed the true culprits behind 9/11 the day of the attacks, by asking who benefits the most from it. That culprit was Israel. What have YOU done in terms of investigative journalism and research, eh PS? I don't know why you take this so personally, do you have some sort of grudge against the guy for stealing your candy when you were a kid or something? Lighten up. But if you have any sort of hard evidence that he was "kissing Obama ass" over the past several years, post a link, I'm curious as to what ties your panties in knots over the guy. That's quite possible, as some of his rhetoric is not only highly inflammatory and racist, but revolting. I know Rivero always attracted the shills on FR and was always a target of theirs. Perhaps ole PS was one of those shills, who knows... New Ron Paul Ad – BIG DOG December 5, 2011
Super post, JT. (and I agree). I didn't vote for any of them either. "Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again." "However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money." [Josiah Stamp]
He's here to confuse, fog, and spread hate as means of driving people away from 4UM." You nailed it, and did it exceptionally well. I could not have said it better. Not even Storm Front allows such open racist vitriol in their site because they are into growth and expansion such raw shows of hatred and intolerance stifle. It shows how some deeply fear this site and some of the excellent development of ideas and information sharing that this place has. He does a great deal of harm to 4UM, and does it with a hidden agenda. We all die someday Meanie, but my death will never kill the immortal truth that human love, caring and tolerance trumps hatred and bigotry. I'll die, but the truths I know will live long after me. And meanie, a question for you; why oh why would an environmentalist want to wasted surface on the mother planet for some wasted exercise of ego like a grave site? I never claimed to be a journalist or a researcher. I don't know why you take this so personally I don't. I just hate weasels, no matter who they are. But if you have any sort of hard evidence that he was "kissing Obama ass" over the past several years, post a link, He might not, anymore. I dont know, I stopped going there because of his cheerleading for obama before the selection. I thought that was interesting since he posted several stories before that, about how fraudulent the selection are. Hell, he probably had a whole category full of many articles devoted to that topic. So he knew better, and did it anyway. Now he thinks he can tell Paul anything? -------------------------------------------------------- I just got tired of beating around the bush. Just saying "I do say, my good man, that I am most displeased and so very perplexed by the current intolerable situation that I find myself at a total loss!" just doesn't cut it anymore. You want to know what revolting is? This is fucking revolting: -------------------------------------------------------- This is fucking revolting: As far as I've seen, everyone with a conscience, including Rivero, would agree with you. Thing is PS, you get outright extreme in your racial and religious intolerance, turning many people away. This 4um has many good people trying to inform others of the nature of the beast so to speak, it doesn't do any of us any good for you to act like a satanic version of the KKK grand wizard. Sorry if you'd prefer a christian neocon warfaggot. And to say that I turn people away? There is the ignore feature. I promise not to use my Mighty Evil Black Magic Powerz of the KKK Satanist Lodge 666 to force them to read my posts, swear to god. There are 2 sides to a story, usually. I have no problem in going against the grain to present that 2nd side, if there is reason to do so. If you don't like it, or the way I do it, put me on ignore. I am not going to change for you or anyone else. -------------------------------------------------------- If Rivero had misguided sympathy for the current officeholder, yes it was probably bred out of his distaste for McPain and the whole Pubbie machine headed by Junior. I think that eight year's of that shit, with the prospect of at least four more was enough to drive some folks out of their ever lovin' minds. The love affair didn't last long, however, and by the time BP blew up their rig in the Gulf, Rivero was hammering 'Bama pretty hard. Everyone is entitled to their moment of madness, but yeah, as far as 911, Waco, Ruby Ridge, OK City as well as a host of stuff like creeping militarism, climate globalony, Gaza, & Isra-subversion go, Rivero is right on track. Some here are penalizing Rivero pretty hard for support he gave the Current Resident and are blowing things up out of proportion because they lack any sense of proportion in the first place. But then, have you noticed? There are some people on this forum who have a pretty good hold on reality. They're the kind of folks you'd want to have for neighbors. Others, not so much.
Thanks, noone222. If it weren't for 2nd and 3rd chances, most of us would be divorced, dead, and/or wearing orange jump suits.
What it comes down to PS is that you are at times quite offensive to most people. I'm not about to put you or anyone else on ignore, but what I'm saying is that you paint ALL of us as extreme minded racists with some of the crap you post, to anyone just visiting this forum from the outside world. If that is not your intent, maybe you could tone it down a bit. If you only care about YOU and could care less about the rest of us, just keep doing what you're doing. Bullshit. First of all, I am not the only "racist" here. But I am a little more outspoken than some. I see no point in not calling a spade a spade. Second of all, any time I disagree, I give reasons. Argue the reasons if you want. Or call me a shill if you want. Say that some .gov agency is paying me to post on forums. I don't care. If you want people to go along to get along, post crap like 'no planes on 9/11 it was a hologram', or 'they're spraying chemtrails overhead today', or 'check out this Illuminati insider video' without disagreement, and everyone agreeing, you'll be disappointed. -------------------------------------------------------- There are people who wish to be taken seriously. Those who act like bigots and such will not be taken seriously by anyone. As many people judge others by the company they keep, I'm sure more than a handful will think we are ALL bigots, in fact, on LP and other forums a lot of people view this place as a racist website, and when people come see for themselves, often times find exactly that. Now if you want to deny the clear evidence of SOMETHING being SPRAYED in the skies over North America, Europe, and elsewhere, that's your perogative, and we can debate the issues. But tossing words around such as nigger, kike, and so forth just discredits anything else you have to say pretty much. He's here to confuse, fog, and spread hate as means of driving people away from 4UM." You nailed it, and did it exceptionally well. I could not have said it better. Not even Storm Front allows such open racist vitriol in their site because they are into growth and expansion such raw shows of hatred and intolerance stifle. It shows how some deeply fear this site and some of the excellent development of ideas and information sharing that this place has. He does a great deal of harm to 4UM, and does it with a hidden agenda. Thanks for the kind words. I think you may well be right on that. Most of the people who post here are sharp, and while we may have our disagreements from time to time they are generally well expressed. Agree or disagree I think I would put the posters on 4um above most other similar fora on the 'net in terms of their ability to see through the spin. Ron Paul Edges a Surging Santourm in Final Iowa Caucus Straw Poll | 2012 Iowa Caucus Rick Santourm has picked the right time to surge, but it wasn’t enough to topple Ron Paul who finished in first again with 1,051 votes (18%). Santourm finished 990 votes (17%). Newt Gingrich fell from the last Straw Poll, but still managed a very close third place with 957 votes (17%). The race stayed close all the way down the line with Mitt Romney at 16% and Rick Perry at 15%. Even Jon Huntsman and Michele Bachmann finished with a respectable 9% and 8% respectively. Poll Results: Straw Poll: Who will win the 2012 Iowa Caucus? (Exp 1-01-12) Ron Paul (18%, 1,051 Votes) Rick Santourm (17%, 990 Votes) Newt Gingrich (17%, 957 Votes) Mitt Romney (16%, 919 Votes) Rick Perry (15%, 848 Votes) Jon Hunstman (9%, 495 Votes) Michele Bachmann (8%, 475 Votes) Total Voters: 5,735 *Online Straw Poll.
Opinion: Prepare to Be Surprised By Iowa Caucus Results - Iowa Caucuses - Fox Nation
The Faux news presenters are semi stunned that Ron Paul has seemingly cobbled together a coalition of Independents, the young, Democrats and some anti-war Rs. If this holds, it will scare the yarmukles off the AIPAC boyz.
Live blog from the Iowa caucuses - CNN.com Blogs
Live blog: Iowa's Republican caucuses minute-by-minute - CNN.com 1% in Paul leading with 43%
bump that! "I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Live blog: Iowa's Republican caucuses minute-by-minute - CNN.com 1% in Santorum 463 26% Paul 406 23% Romney 318 18% Ginrich 286 16%
Paul leads in this moment 24 percent.
You may be right. I'll tell ya what. Let's 2 do things. 1) Go into any nig...(some habits are hard to break) I mean African American neighborhood tonight. It doesn't matter where, because they are all the same. Stand under a street lamp and tell them, as they return from a hard days work, that we understand their plight and have much compassion for them. Ask how we can help them overcome. What could possibly go wrong??? 2) Hug a jew. Yeah, they are just as responsible, if not more responsible for that murdered little girl (and countless others just like her) as the US is, but jews need love too. And now they want to do it to Iran, so we can then wish them godspeed. Love conquers all, right? All you need is love. -------------------------------------------------------- You need to change your screen name to SuperPSUSA2 (Able to turn people away with the stroke of a key). Hey, maybe you two guys could burn a cross right here on 4um. I'm sure there are some graphics you could find that'd display that. I'll tell ya what. There are niggers, white niggers, black niggers, and niggers of all colors. Thing is, those bastards are racists. I've found more than a few Negroes, Latinos, and others, that do NOT fit into the category of "nigger", just because of their skin color. You guys have issues. Deal with it privately, get a room or something and whack yourselves off to posters of Stalin, Hitler, and maybe that guy who founded the Masonic order down there in ole Dixie. it's pretty clear why we should hate black people... after all, they control the government, the media and the political process, and they're in the process of looting the country and agitating for more wars.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAnd if I heard you express this sentiment out loud and in public, I would get squarely in your face about it just like I do every time that happens in my hearing range.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#8. To: PSUSA2 (#3)
#9. To: christine (#8)
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#10. To: PSUSA2, 4 (#7)
#11. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#12. To: PSUSA2 (#11)
#13. To: Ferret, BSUSATOO, PSUSA2, ALL (#4)
Such comments prove the only thing you care to do is display an irrational racial hatred. You put the taint of hate in everything you comment on thus cannot be taken seriously on anything.
#14. To: christine (#0)
If Iowa is stolen from you, we need you to be the leader we all know that you are and demand a recount by hand of all ballots.
I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.
#15. To: PSUSA2 (#9)
I equate this to cheating. Some say "I made a mistake". To me, it is an intentional act requiring many such "mistakes". It's not one action, but many actions.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#16. To: FormerLurker (#15)
And you are without fault, right PSUSA? You've never made a mistake in your life have you.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#17. To: FormerLurker, BSUSATOO, PUSUSATOO, PSUSA2, all (#15)
... or are you just here to put them to sleep and/or anger them?
WE HAVE A WINNER JOHNNY!
... or are you just PUT here to put them to sleep and/or anger them?
#18. To: Ferret (#4)
"....irrational racial hatred....."
#19. To: FormerLurker, BSUSATOO, PUSUSATOO, PSUSA2, Ferret, all (#16)
If you want to argue, then tell me he didn't constantly kiss obamas ass. It happened so much I was wondering if he got paid to do it, because he went above and beyond. And now he has the gall to tell Paul what to do?
McCain MuckNutz so much that he was willing to latch onto any alternative that was not so obviously psycho.
#20. To: PSUSA2 (#16)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#21. To: Original_Intent (#17)
He's here to confuse, fog, and spread hate as means of driving people away from 4UM.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
Some people here voted for Clinton, and Bush (both versions). Repentencance works in my world, and I have to be honest, the words "zero tolerance" is to ignore the human condition we all come to this planet with. Rivero was way wrong, but If he has since rejected his Obama position, I call that changing an opinion based on new (and accurate) information. I voted for none of the people I mentioned in this post, but I'm OK with people who did and now recognize it was a mistake.
#24. To: Original_Intent (#17)
"BSUSA is in the hate and disinformation business - our local closet disinformation specialist.
#25. To: Big Meanie (#18)
"Perfect for your tombstone, hypocrite."
#26. To: FormerLurker (#20)
What have YOU done in terms of investigative journalism and research, eh PS?
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#27. To: FormerLurker (#21)
That's quite possible, as some of his rhetoric is not only highly inflammatory and racist, but revolting.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#28. To: PSUSA2 (#27)
You want to know what revolting is?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#29. To: FormerLurker (#28)
it doesn't do any of us any good for you to act like a satanic version of the KKK grand wizard.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#30. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker, Ferret, all (#19)
Or the alternative, which I think is closer to the truth, is that he despised McCain MuckNutz so much that he was willing to latch onto any alternative that was not so obviously psycho.
#31. To: noone222 (#23)
#32. To: PSUSA2 (#29)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#33. To: FormerLurker (#32)
(Edited)
that you paint ALL of us as extreme minded racists with some of the crap you post, to anyone just visiting this forum from the outside world.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#34. To: PSUSA2 (#33)
If you want people to go along to get along, post crap like 'no planes on 9/11 it was a hologram', or 'they're spraying chemtrails overhead today', or 'check out this Illuminati insider video' without disagreement, you'll be disappointed.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#35. To: Ferret (#24)
"BSUSA is in the hate and disinformation business - our local closet disinformation specialist.
It shows how some deeply fear this site and some of the excellent development of ideas and information sharing that this place has.
#36. To: christine (#0)
#37. To: noone222, Jethro Tull (#23)
#38. To: TwentyTwelve, 4 (#37)
#39. To: Jethro Tull, ALL (#38)
#40. To: Jethro Tull, ALL (#38)
#41. To: TwentyTwelve (#40)
Paul leading with 43%
#42. To: Dakmar (#41)
#43. To: TwentyTwelve (#42)
I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.
#44. To: FormerLurker (#28)
Thing is PS, you get outright extreme in your racial and religious intolerance, turning many people away.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#45. To: PSUSA2 (#44)
Thing is PS, you get outright extreme in your racial and religious intolerance, turning many people away.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)
#46. To: PSUSA2, Esso (#44)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#47. To: PSUSA2 (#44)
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