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Title: Sarah Palin: "Ron Paul Is Pro-Israel, He Just Wants To Protect Them In A Different Way"
Source: http://www.youtube.com
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXCTPO586UM
Published: Jan 3, 2012
Author: Sussex County Angel
Post Date: 2012-01-03 21:08:16 by freepatriot32
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Keywords: Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, Pro-Israel, libertarians
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Breitbart.tv Sarah Palin appeared on Fox News with Eric Bolling and discussed Ron Paul's foreign policy as it relates to the state of Israel.

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#1. To: All, *libertarians* (#0)

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freepatriot32  posted on  2012-01-03   21:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

This should drive the Limbaugh talk cricut bonkers tomorrow :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-01-03   21:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

That noise you just heard was Goldi-lox's head exploding. LOL! I love it! I wonder what she is going to say when she learns her political hero is saying positive things about the person she hates the most.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-01-03   21:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

Who the hell made us responsible foe all this crap?

..................... If a man has nothing that he is willing to die for, then he has nothing worth living for.

Give Me Liberty  posted on  2012-01-03   22:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

"...our ally...our ally...our ally..."

Makes me want to vomit all over a synagogue door. Maybe we'll get lucky and a fish will yank that broad overboard the next time she goes fishing....

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-01-03   22:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#5)

Maybe a Bull Moose will give her an antler ride?

Hope springs eternal.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-03   22:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#6) (Edited)

Just as long as the moose is named "Ahmed Mahmoud Mustaffa", just for the "Ripley's Believe It Or Not!" plot twist.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-01-03   22:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

It boils down to: She supposes that Ron Paul wants to protect Israel in "a different way" but she has no idea what that way is.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-01-03   22:43:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

I can tell you all how Ron Paul wants to protect Israel.

First, cut ties with them, both financially, and militarily. This frees Israel from our meddling in their affairs.

Second, Let Israel fight its own battles, and whether we know it or not, they can do just fine without us.

"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2012-01-03   22:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#3)

That noise you just heard was Goldi-lox's head exploding. LOL!

LOL


As Gary Lloyd said, "When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."

farmfriend  posted on  2012-01-03   23:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TommyTheMadArtist, freepatriot32, James Deffenbach, christine, Jethro Tull, X-15, F.A. Hayek Fan, Original_Intent, Ferret, TwentyTwelve, Deasy (#9)

I can tell you all how Ron Paul wants to protect Israel.

First, cut ties with them, both financially, and militarily. This frees Israel from our meddling in their affairs.

Second, Let Israel fight its own battles, and whether we know it or not, they can do just fine without us.

Paul has never said that. And, it doesn't benefit his campaign to bootstrap our political "visions of sugarplums dancing in our heads" onto his ascension.

First, Sarah is equivocating because so many of the people she's spoken with applaud Paul's views that she's trying to win their support without alarming the Kosher brave and Zio tuff....yet. And if "Iron Man Ron's Unstoppable Monster Juggernaut" continues just watch Sarah do a flip flop that will put David ("Basically, I've always been a conservative") Gergen in silk taffeta short pants.

I hope she can handle killer splinters from straddling that split rail fence. If she doesn't come back with a scathing attack on Paul soon we can expect to see pix of the Alaskan Slut Queen's sword swallowing act, perhaps with a dark skinned, Ghurkha-wielding Democrat. (Oliver Cromwell's piked head was put on display-see below)

Paul knows that the best thing we can do to protect our interests (gasp) is to stop subsidizing the dehumanization, the serial and mass murders, the "Willy Peter" bombings, the starvation and relegation to untreated disease clusters and forced misery of people who refuse to bow their knees to the most ghastly horrors imaginable. And as president Dr. Ron could provide a platform for Jimmy Carter and others to simply tell the truth that Americans will never hear through ZioVision Cable or broadcast TV or radio.

If America led the way to peace by example it would save countless trillions in interest for the needless use of the various central banks' digital units and paper currency. And, it would also save many Allied and American veterans from death or worse, wishing they were dead and lacking the physical or mental ability to end their pain-racked, Gothic horror story lives.

Of course this would end a long, prosperous run for The Daddy WarBucks Club and The Defense Contractors Guild, and muscle serious plunge cuts through the gristle of the bribery and graft for our esteemed political caste.

That will not happen without many attempts to trick us into war through assassinations, bombings and/or chemical weapons attacks on kindergartens and cheerleading camps, with "the 19 suspects being quickly identified after they make good their escape to the nation that offers them sanctuary-you know, "the emerging nukular threat that we should have bombed into the stone age when we had the chance".

Once awakened and presented with strong leadership, if Americans demonstrate but a measure of the resolve of the Palestinians and others who have refused to buckle under Zionist psychopathy we could truly be the saviors of the world for all posterity. (And with no one to hate as foreign policy The Conservatives for Our Lord, The Blue-Suited, Ass Kickin' Hostile Takeover Jesus could wash others in the blood of the lamb instead of plotting the course of a new river of spilt blood between The Tigris and The Euphrates)

An ancient, B&W drawing of the skillful job on Cromwell's head versus color photos of Palin's skillful black in white head job-politically speaking, a distinction with very little difference. Rotate the pike CCW roughly 85° and color it black for Sarah. Get it?)

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-04   1:36:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)

First, Sarah is equivocating because so many of the people she's spoken with applaud Paul's views that she's trying to win their support without alarming the Kosher brave and Zio tuff....yet.

Yep, because Ron Paul supporters will look ANYBODY in their eyes and tell them "I Support Ron Paul. PERIOD." That drives the neocons nuts, it's a brick wall that the Zio's can't dismantle and that is the ultimate threat to their power over the masses.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-01-04   1:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)

And as president Dr. Ron could provide a platform for Jimmy Carter and others to simply tell the truth

Jimmy Carter and "the truth" should never be mentioned together in the same sentence or even in the same paragraph. Jimmy Carter knows about as much "truth" as a hog knows about calculus and physics. I say this because he campaigned on a promise that he "would never lie to the American people." Politicians should never say something like that as long as there are any investigative reporters still alive. Craig Karpel tore him apart in an article that appeared in Penthouse (iirc) called "The First 100 Lies of Jimmy Carter." Not to put too fine a point on it I would not stand on one leg and hold my breath waiting for Jimmy Carter to tell the truth about anything.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-04   1:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: X-15 (#12)

Yep, because Ron Paul supporters will look ANYBODY in their eyes and tell them "I Support Ron Paul. PERIOD." That drives the neocons nuts,

It's hard to force someone's eyes closed again once they've been opened.

The people who are supporting Ron Paul are doing it out of principle - it is a reasoned position. That is an anathema to anyone who relies on Psych manipulation through reactive emotional response.

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-04   2:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: James Deffenbach (#13)

Jimmy Carter knows about as much "truth" as a hog knows about calculus and physics

That's my third belly laugh I had tonight..... thanks :)

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-04   2:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: X-15 (#12)

Yep, because Ron Paul supporters will look ANYBODY in their eyes and tell them "I Support Ron Paul. PERIOD." That drives the neocons nuts, it's a brick wall that the Zio's can't dismantle and that is the ultimate threat to their power over the masses.

YUP!

Paul supporters aren't intimidated by whispered warnings such as, "Shhhh, the Lobby doesn't like that so it's off the table."

They will rally with the shield of AMERICA FIRST to protect them, and there's simply no way to doublespeak around it or penetrate it with veiled threats. Our non Christian brothers and sisters know that if the sleeping giant is awakened from his slumber he will be guided by The Golden Rule that he learned at his mother's knee, and he'll be so upset about current events that it may touch off a Viking Berserker rage in 60 million lapsed, periodic and devoted Christian gun owners who cannot reconcile their morality and American foreign policy.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-04   2:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#14) (Edited)

The people who are supporting Ron Paul are doing it out of principle - it is a reasoned position.

CNN could shove a camera in my face as Sarah Palin grabs my crotch and whispers "Won't you vote for the GOP candidate who will best defend Israel?" and I would firmly retort "NO, it's not in the Constitution. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who will save America!!". True story. Well, true fantasy, at least......

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-01-04   2:25:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach (#13)

Jimmy Carter and "the truth" should never be mentioned together in the same sentence or even in the same paragraph. Jimmy Carter knows about as much "truth" as a hog knows about calculus and physics. I say this because he campaigned on a promise that he "would never lie to the American people." Politicians should never say something like that as long as there are any investigative reporters still alive. Craig Karpel tore him apart in an article that appeared in Penthouse (iirc) called "The First 100 Lies of Jimmy Carter." Not to put too fine a point on it I would not stand on one leg and hold my breath waiting for Jimmy Carter to tell the truth about anything.

I was referring to this:

Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid

Carter was a comfortably retired, continent hopping senior statesman who decided to risk a plane crash or all consuming home fire when he launched his literary missile at those cutthroats. And, I'd hate to think that anyone who had ever told untruths would be automatically disqualified from the fight. After all, can we not be better men today than we were yesterday?

Now my friend, if the standard you've set is, '...he campaigned on a promise that he "would never lie to the American people."' am I to assume that any other president who made no such promise is forgiven his lies and you hold one or more of them up as otherwise exempliary?

Or, were you particularly hurt by Carter's letdown because of a particular pre-election promise that was a lie? My recollection of his term was as a pisswilly house sitter until Reagan arrived. And, the botched rescue attempt of the hostages really caused his stock to drop on my bookmaking pad. His presidency was a bloody disaster, and then when I learned that he was Rockefeller's boy and was announced as "The next president" at the Bilderberger Orgy 2 years before the election I really despised him.

The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy

I don't know Mearsheimer's or Walt's political affiliation(s) nor do I care. I do know that their book rattled the Zio crazies' cages so badly that Alan Dershowitz nearly called for a Mossad hit team on national TV.

And, Jimmy Carter's book forced Dershowitz to ejaculate the most absurd things that out of sheer gratitude I wanted to shake the hand of the most namby pamby, ineffectual president in my lifetime.

When it comes to throwing running blocks for Ron Paul I'm a single issue lineman.

And, believe me, your disdain for JC's presidency may be (=) to mine, but it's certainly not (>).

This post ain't about that. There was JC the wimpy, 20th century Rockefeller lickspittle president, and then there's JC the 21st century Whack-A-Mole Heeb Hunter and author of a New York Times Best Seller.

Hell, any Rockefeller-Brzezinski stooge can occupy The White House for a single term, and unless he's caught with a dead girl or a live boy he will complete a single term. But few human beings with the notoriety and influence to penetrate the Zionist censorship of everything we see, read and hear will ever have the courage to do so. Does this account for anything, my friend?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-04   3:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: intotheabyss (#15)

That's my third belly laugh I had tonight..... thanks :)

You're welcome.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-04   10:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: HOUNDDAWG (#18) (Edited)

Carter was a comfortably retired, continent hopping senior statesman who decided to risk a plane crash or all consuming home fire when he launched his literary missile at those cutthroats. And, I'd hate to think that anyone who had ever told untruths would be automatically disqualified from the fight. After all, can we not be better men today than we were yesterday?

Some of us can, some are born nothing and will die nothing. "Senior statesman"? Carter? You must have a different definition of a statesman than I do. Jimmy Carter was (and is) a bought and paid for political whore which you acknowledge yourself. "Announced as the next president two years before the election." Statesmen aren't sell out stooges, Carter was.

Now my friend, if the standard you've set is, '...he campaigned on a promise that he "would never lie to the American people."' am I to assume that any other president who made no such promise is forgiven his lies and you hold one or more of them up as otherwise exempliary?

My point was that no one should make such a promise. An honest man doesn't need to make such a promise and when someone is a natural born liar--congenital liar I think the term is--then it's just one more lie in a long string.

Or, were you particularly hurt by Carter's letdown because of a particular pre-election promise that was a lie? My recollection of his term was as a pisswilly house sitter until Reagan arrived. And, the botched rescue attempt of the hostages really caused his stock to drop on my bookmaking pad. His presidency was a bloody disaster, and then when I learned that he was Rockefeller's boy and was announced as "The next president" at the Bilderberger Orgy 2 years before the election I really despised him.

Your mind may be a comin' back to you. ahaha. Seriously, I wouldn't trust Jimmy Carter as far as I could throw him. But as Shirley Q. Liquor says, "To each they own." I don't tell other folks who to admire/like/appreciate or whatever. But to answer your question, no, I was not let down by Carter. I figured he was lying when he made that promise. Karpel's article just proved something I already suspected which was that Jimmy Carter was a professional liar.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-04   10:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)

Palin is desperately trying to keep the Paul people from going 3rd Party. I pray to god she fails.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-01-04   16:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: James Deffenbach (#20)

Seriously, I wouldn't trust Jimmy Carter as far as I could throw him. But as Shirley Q. Liquor says, "To each they own." I don't tell other folks who to admire/like/appreciate or whatever. But to answer your question, no, I was not let down by Carter. I figured he was lying when he made that promise. Karpel's article just proved something I already suspected which was that Jimmy Carter was a professional liar.

I'm having trouble with your posts because of two things; What if any president did you trust and respect, and does Carter's book about Palestine carry no weight at all with you?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-04   17:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull, All (#21)

Palin is desperately trying to keep the Paul people from going 3rd Party. I pray to god she fails.

Whatever her motive, do you actually think Ron Paul would give a third party a go? And if he does, what makes you think he wouldn't be marginalized as much or more than he is now? The PTB still would control the vote count.

May I suggest you take that big ole Dirty Harry piece along with some other former cops and get him a fair shake. The rest of masses are to chickenshit to demand and get an honest election otherwise.

ambi  posted on  2012-01-04   17:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#21)

Palin is desperately trying to keep the Paul people from going 3rd Party. I pray to god she fails.

Perhaps. IMO, her ambiguous remarks won't make a bit of diff if Paul gets porked in Iowa and NH.

He either will or he won't. He's much too clever to be appeased by the likes of Sarah Palin. If Paul chooses to go 3rd party it'll be because A) he's on his last 2 yr term as a congressman and B) he has the energy to continue what will almost certainly be a losing battle.

Why even bother seeking the popular vote as an "outsider" when most electors in The Electoral College will cast their votes for a Pub or a Dem? They are selected by party bosses because they follow orders, at least on their first vote. Any who "turn rogue" after the first vote will almost certainly vote for one of the two "official parties", with the possible exception of Vermont.

There is no constitutional mandate requiring electors to vote the way their states' voters do.

Every four years the good peeps of DE stand in line to vote after they receive last minute calls and mailings, instructing them to "Stop those Evil (Ds or Rs)". But, DE's three electoral votes will always go to the Dem. Voting is simply pointless in my state and most other states too, I suspect.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-04   17:31:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: HOUNDDAWG (#24)

He either will or he won't. He's much too clever to be appeased by the likes of Sarah Palin. If Paul chooses to go 3rd party it'll be because A) he's on his last 2 yr term as a congressman and B) he has the energy to continue what will almost certainly be a losing battle

Ron Paul found this out in 1988. Too bad the same dummies who still don't realize this is the way it is. Now what could be done to change things and make fair and honest elections? Go ahead and tell us!

ambi  posted on  2012-01-04   17:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: HOUNDDAWG (#22)

What if any president did you trust and respect, and does Carter's book about Palestine carry no weight at all with you?

Not that I ever knew them personally but I thought Washington and Jefferson were pretty good presidents. In my lifetime the only president America had that was worth anything much was probably John Kennedy (in my opinion).

And no, when I know someone has lied to me over and over I stop listening to anything they say and I have not read Carter's book (nor do I intend to).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-04   18:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: ambi (#25) (Edited)

Go ahead and tell us!

Although I detect a note of smarminess let's continue, shall we?

Barring a frighteningly massive awakening of the American people nothing will be accomplished by voting with their "sleight of a techs' or poll workers' hands" machines.

And, an awakening of the required magnitude is simply not possible without the help of TV, the most powerful tool in the universe. Sadly, TV was weaponized against us by the time Elvis' hips were censored on The Sullivan Show.

TV is now so powerful that some Americans will respond to it in much the same the way that the Eloi dutifully walked into the Morlocks abattoirs. Upon seeing the sea of "surrendered without a thought" many others will fall in, daring not to resist massive conformity. Others will frantically load their minivans and 4WD scenic parkway cruisers, but they won't make it past the first checkpoint manned by vets, practiced killers from Iraqi roadblocks.

And, if the govt announced that "...the first born manchild of every household must be delivered to a predetermined point of embarkation for shipment to China to be used as slave labor in payment of the national debt", a tragically large measure of the people would comply while grumbling quietly so as not to be arrested or summarily executed, at least until they learn that the transportation costs would be deferred and billed to each subject family later.

I can hear it now....

"Well son, you'll get lots of fresh air and exercise and you'll be helping Mommy and Daddy and your birth country in our time of great need." (Show the slave-to-be a picture of a former Federal Reserve or Wall St banker flying coach or vacationing at some public resort-Oy, The Humanities!) "It'll be just like summer camp, Son, only you're never coming home!"

Perhaps The Ron Paul Of Today (who may be martyred by some rogue lunatic Mossad psycho-there are many-who just doesn't understand why "someone doesn't just kill the defiant-to-universal-jooism-Goy-sonofabitch") will be the future catalyst that forces the Invisible Wall Of Fear to collapse. ("Greater than the tread of mighty armies is an idea whose time has come."_Victor Hugo) Of course that time will not be the optimum moment to rise up. If the people didn't march on DC locked and loaded after Ruby Ridge, Waco and New Orleans you can bet that the numbers needed won't be primed for the revolution until they've nothing but their last cans of Chef Boyardee, their weapons and their lives to lose. (You can count the number of living Patrick Henrys in my state on 3 wires of a Russian abacus)

But, hopefully when the end is eminent and America's "Somoza Guardsmen" hang up their uniforms just as East German Border Guards did, then certain regions (with complete disregard for the former 12 Imperial Federal Reserve Zones) will separate and proudly run their own flags up their handsomely carved and polyurethane finished banker-bone flagpoles. (hunting down the bastards who used battery chargers on innocents could last 70 years or more)

I mean, think about it. Is there a snowball's chance that Northern New Jersey and New York would fight with TX, Montana, New Hampshire, PA, etc., to "restore the union" and salvage the Constitution in general and the 2nd amendment in particular? (Southern NJ should have separated long ago but that wasn't possible as long as there were (and are) ample resources to level every square block in revolt and cold blooded politicians in power (Cheney, Ashcroft, Bush, Clinton, and that colort boy) who would give the order and dutiful appointees (Reno, Ridge, Freeh, Holder, etc.,) to carry it out.

If The American people simply turned out 25 old guard incumbents-for-life it would be rolling the dice and we'd either, 1) take our country back or, 2) the govt in rebellion would finally announce that which some gutsy Americans have already accepted:

"Attention: The antiquated and completely unworkable constitution is hereby dead. Because it served only to provide cover for terrorists and anti-Semite racists and served no useful purpose in the New World Order, it has died a merciful death. And the elected representatives you sent to Washington will now be Washington's advisers to you. And, there is no vacuum of leadership. All federal, state, county and municipal criminal laws will remain in effect pending consolidation of political subdivisions and final ratification by Washington of The Constitution for the Newstates of America.

(I'm betting on the second-I believe that the puppeteers who own our congress will never relinquish power until they're flushed like quail to their private airports or looking down the barrels of the militia's carefully cleaned and lovingly oiled .30-30s, M1 Garands, AR-15s, FN FALs etc,. And I don't see that happening while the most diabolical mind control system ever devised is working with "The Tavistock Coalition of Manchurian, Oswaldian and Hinckleyian Handlers" to prevent it.)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-05   23:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

Not that I ever knew them personally but I thought Washington and Jefferson were pretty good presidents. In my lifetime the only president America had that was worth anything much was probably John Kennedy (in my opinion).

And no, when I know someone has lied to me over and over I stop listening to anything they say and I have not read Carter's book (nor do I intend to).

There is something you're not telling me because I just don't see "Carter the Big Whopper Teller" as being so much worse than LBJ, (Landslide Lyndon) Nixon, (I am not a crook) Ford (remember his Warren Commission lies?) Reagan, ("I was out of The Loop-never heard of The Contras") Bush The Wimpier ("Yeah, I was in Dallas that day, So what?") and Bush The Stoopider, (Oh where to begin) Clinton (same) or Obama (unbelievable and he's just getting started)

Could you bear with me a little longer and please tell me just what lies struck you so hard between 1976 and 1980 as to put Carter in a category all his own?

And BTW, the term senior statesman was used to describe "Pardon Me Nixon" after he emerged as the "peacemaker" with China. He opened the door to cheep labur for his PUB buddies, and that factored into the collapse of American heavy industry and manufacturing that's killing us today. He's the reason why Rockwell, the last word in machine shop engines for most of the 20th century is now a shameful American label for Chinese CNC lathes and mills. And when you ponder China's having cornered the aluminum smelting and alloying market, think Nixon.

So, "senior statesman" is not a flattering description. It's reserved for peeps like Vladimer Posner, Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger. Have you seen it used to describe someone that you respect, or were you just being twitchy because it sounds like a term that's used for modern day Jeffersonians? (it isn't-there aren't any)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-06   1:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#28)

There is something you're not telling me because I just don't see "Carter the Big Whopper Teller" as being so much worse than LBJ, (Landslide Lyndon) Nixon, (I am not a crook) Ford (remember his Warren Commission lies?) Reagan, ("I was out of The Loop-never heard of The Contras") Bush The Wimpier ("Yeah, I was in Dallas that day, So what?") and Bush The Stoopider, (Oh where to begin) Clinton (same) or Obama (unbelievable and he's just getting started)

Have you ever seen me post a flattering word or even a good word about any of the crooks and charlatans you mentioned? I don't think so. But the fact remains that Carter made an explicit campaign promise that he "would never lie to the American people." Despite the fact that they all lie, at least all we have had in modern times (and the others probably did too depending on what it was about), Carter was the only one who made an issue of it. I figured he was lying when he said it and found that he would rather climb a splintered lightpole barefoot than to tell the truth.

For whatever it's worth I know the term "senior statesmen" is applied to people it shouldn't be. But just because the "news readers" do stupid $#it like that doesn't mean we have to. The only actual statesman I know of in Washington is Ron Paul.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-06   8:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: James Deffenbach (#29)

Carter was the only one who made an issue of it. I figured he was lying when he said it and found that he would rather climb a splintered lightpole barefoot than to tell the truth.

Very good.

Once I learned that Ol' Peanut was a Rockefeller protegee I drew a line through his name.

And it's only because Rockefeller and Rothschild have taken opposite sides of the Zionist power grab that Carter's book was on the NY Times Best Seller list..

But, I don't care WHY he did it or how he got there. (Rockefeller had the power to place Carter in The White House but then David was clueless how to consolidate power by manipulating "I cannot tell a lie" Carter once he did)

The important thing is Carter dared to resist Alan Dershowitz and The American Dual Citizens' Cabal, and he labeled them as the manipulating liars that they are. And it provided a powerful rebuttal to most Southern and some Indie ZioBabtists who seem to believe that no sacrifice is too great for IZRULL.

Carter was once the greatest threat to America but that was 35 years ago. The greatest threat now is Zio mind control and political manipulation.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-06   21:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: James Deffenbach (#29) (Edited)

For whatever it's worth I know the term "senior statesmen" is applied to people it shouldn't be. But just because the "news readers" do stupid $#it like that doesn't mean we have to. The only actual statesman I know of in Washington is Ron Paul.

I'll have one more go at this.

Thanks for the clarification. But you can certainly see how clinging to your own definition while criticizing my use of the phrase can create confusion, right?

Of course in retrospect I should have put, "senior statesman" in quotes because I too agree that it's an abuse of the phrase, and the memory of Thos. Jefferson.

"The truth is that corporations wield enormous power in Congress and in state legislatures. It is hard to tell where government ends and corporate America begins: the transition is seamless and overlapping."_Justice James C. Nelson, Montana Supreme Court

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-06   21:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: HOUNDDAWG (#31)

Thanks for the clarification. But you can certainly see how clinging to your own definition while criticizing my use of the phrase can create confusion, right?

Of course in retrospect I should have put, "senior statesman" in quotes because I too agree that it's an abuse of the phrase, and the memory of Thos. Jefferson.

Yeah, you're probably right. I don't call the Kenyan's heffalump "the first lady" and I don't call political whore sell outs "senior statesmen." But I recognize that other people call them that out of habit or whatever. I don't get all "tore up from the floor up" about it, but just call things the way I see them. As far as Obama's wife and not calling her the first lady, I don't call any president's wife that. I think it is ignorant.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-07   13:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: James Deffenbach (#32)

Yeah, you're probably right. I don't call the Kenyan's heffalump "the first lady" and I don't call political whore sell outs "senior statesmen." But I recognize that other people call them that out of habit or whatever. I don't get all "tore up from the floor up" about it, but just call things the way I see them. As far as Obama's wife and not calling her the first lady, I don't call any president's wife that. I think it is ignorant.

Wow, my friend!

I didn't know that the title of First Lady was offensive to you.

I get it now.

Thanks.

I often make tongue in cheek comments and use PC labels without putting them in quotes, and the more absurd they read the better. Folks who know me generally credit me for my irreverence and view the comments through that lens, and it's never been an issue. (Also, a very savvy member took me to task not long ago for improper use of quotes so, I've been more careful lately)

Folks who understand don't comment on it, and if some folks think that I'm dutifully cowed that's okay too. If they ask I'll explain and those who attack for it generally come up short when they learn that they were one of the less fortunate who weren't in on the joke.

Calling Nixon a senior statesman should be taken with the same grain of salt as my references to "our Jewish brothers and sisters".

For the record the difference between a senior statesman (like Ben Franklin) and Nixon is, Dick was a beady-eyed, blue-bearded, rat shit "better dead than red" lawyer-politician who went farther than any man (or woman) with a "five o'clock shadow by noon" ever should have. (Even Hoover rejected his application to The FBI-Nixon was better suited for STASI than the Aryan image Hoover wanted to ogle and fantasize about) My residence in CA was contiguous to Nixon's congressional district of Whittier, a bastion of Quakers and commie hatin' Caucasian Republicans, and with a population that's still 64.6% white. I laffed when driving through Whittier, And I mean a lot! NIXON! HAH! And, The Fred C. Nelles Youth Correctional Facility? What a Hell Hole!

Calling "The Dick" a senior statesman is an insult to the memory of the great founders, particularly those from my beloved Commonwealth of Virginia such as ""Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" himself.

That was undoubtedly your point and you made it well, and on behalf of those statesmen as well as any who may share your belief in this necessary clarification and emphasis, I thank you.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-13   3:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: HOUNDDAWG (#33)

Oh, you're very welcome, DAWG. I have been called "sensitive" and even "overly sensitive" about such things but as I said in my reply I don't get all torn up about it. I just tell people why I don't call sell outs "statesmen" or other men's wives "the first lady." I think all men should think of their own wife or girlfriend as the first lady and have often wondered how that bs of calling some other man's wife first lady got started. I will be glad to call Manchelle the First Heffalump if she would like that, but First Lady, no.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-13   18:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: James Deffenbach (#34)

I will be glad to call Manchelle the First Heffalump if she would like that, but First Lady, no.

Phunnie!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2012-01-14   3:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)

Glad you liked it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-14   12:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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