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Title: Inside the typical commercial jet engine, the fuel burns in the combustion chamber at up to 2000 degrees Celsius.
Source: stanford
URL Source: http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/ ... rojects/jet-airplanes/how.html
Published: Jan 7, 2012
Author: standford.edu
Post Date: 2012-01-07 23:14:01 by lead.and.lag
Keywords: None
Views: 1904
Comments: 85

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#2. To: All (#0)

the temperatures inside a jet engine would eliminate the possibility of "chemtrail" bugs surviving combustion and reaching the atmosphere.

so "chemtrail" bugs would not be put into jet fuel.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   0:22:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lead.and.lag (#2) (Edited)

They use misters/aerosolizers on the trailing edge of the wings or control surfaces.

Give Me Liberty  posted on  2012-01-08   1:15:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Give Me Liberty (#4)

They use misters/aerosolizers on the trailing edge of the wings or control surfaces.

so you're saying those big white plumes coming from the engines are not "chemtrails"...

good enough

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   1:19:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lead.and.lag, Give Me Liberty, intotheabyss (#5)

Evergreen Aviation Admits to Chemtrail Contracts with USAF

-video www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/meteorology evergreen-aviation-admits-tochemtrail-contracts-with-usaf.html

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   1:34:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#7) (Edited)

Evergreen Aviation Admits to Chemtrail Contracts with USAF

how many supertankers does evergreen have?

do they have enough of them to account for all the "chemtrails" observed?

is there any evidence that evergreen has operated a supertanker on a weather modification contract?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   1:40:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lead.and.lag (#8)

And why is a supertanker required.

You are attempting to assert a premise and have me accept it. I was born at night but it wasn't yesterday.

Evergreen has long been associated with the government - and appears to have CIA linkages. So, why don't you ask them about the contract? I'm sure they'd be more than forthcoming. Don't you think they would be if they had a classified above ridiculous contract?

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   1:46:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#10) (Edited)

You are attempting

you are incapable of giving a straight answer to a straight question.

please post a link to the evergreen press release, especially including the "question and answer" portion of the press release, most especially including the part where evergreen admits it can control weather, and create hurricanes and earthquakes.

please.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   1:51:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lead.and.lag (#11)

Evergreen Link Happy reading.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   1:59:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#13)

Evergreen Link

please post a link to the evergreen press release, especially including the "question and answer" portion of the press release, most especially including the part where evergreen admits it can control weather, and create hurricanes and earthquakes, as per the article from "forbidden knowledge" that you attemped to post a link to.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   2:02:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lead.and.lag (#17)

please post a link to the evergreen press release,

What a ridiculous demand. We both know that CIA connected companies don't give press releases about top secret compartmentalized programs. The admission was inadvertent, and is documented online. Do your own research.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   2:31:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#24)

What a ridiculous demand.

you cant post evergreen's assertion that they can cause hurricanes and earthquakes, because that assertion was added by the writer on the doofus site you posted as a reference.

all we got to decide now is whether you are a fool for being sucked in, or you're deliberately trying to fuck people's minds up.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   2:35:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#28. To: All (#27) (Edited)

for those who didnt take chemistry, the basic components of combustion products are co2 and water vapor.

in fact, jet fuel produces a gallon of water for every gallon of fuel burned.

in another fact, fuel consumption is about a gallon per second for many of these airliners.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08 02:36:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lead.and.lag (#27)

No, I encourage people to think for themselves and not accept anything unexamined.

I have no burning compulsion that requires that people agree with me.

However you're still doing a great job of conforming to:

Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

So far on this thread you have compiled an impressive list:

You began with a Strawman:

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

Then you have proceeded through several others:

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to loose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

Please feel free to let me know if you think I've missed any.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08 02:45:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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