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Title: Inside the typical commercial jet engine, the fuel burns in the combustion chamber at up to 2000 degrees Celsius.
Source: stanford
URL Source: http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/ ... rojects/jet-airplanes/how.html
Published: Jan 7, 2012
Author: standford.edu
Post Date: 2012-01-07 23:14:01 by lead.and.lag
Keywords: None
Views: 1308
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#2. To: All (#0)

the temperatures inside a jet engine would eliminate the possibility of "chemtrail" bugs surviving combustion and reaching the atmosphere.

so "chemtrail" bugs would not be put into jet fuel.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   0:22:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lead.and.lag (#2) (Edited)

They use misters/aerosolizers on the trailing edge of the wings or control surfaces.

Give Me Liberty  posted on  2012-01-08   1:15:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Give Me Liberty (#4)

They use misters/aerosolizers on the trailing edge of the wings or control surfaces.

so you're saying those big white plumes coming from the engines are not "chemtrails"...

good enough

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   1:19:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lead.and.lag, Give Me Liberty, intotheabyss (#5)

Evergreen Aviation Admits to Chemtrail Contracts with USAF

-video www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/meteorology evergreen-aviation-admits-tochemtrail-contracts-with-usaf.html

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   1:34:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#7) (Edited)

Evergreen Aviation Admits to Chemtrail Contracts with USAF

how many supertankers does evergreen have?

do they have enough of them to account for all the "chemtrails" observed?

is there any evidence that evergreen has operated a supertanker on a weather modification contract?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   1:40:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lead.and.lag (#8)

And why is a supertanker required.

You are attempting to assert a premise and have me accept it. I was born at night but it wasn't yesterday.

Evergreen has long been associated with the government - and appears to have CIA linkages. So, why don't you ask them about the contract? I'm sure they'd be more than forthcoming. Don't you think they would be if they had a classified above ridiculous contract?

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   1:46:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#10) (Edited)

You are attempting

you are incapable of giving a straight answer to a straight question.

please post a link to the evergreen press release, especially including the "question and answer" portion of the press release, most especially including the part where evergreen admits it can control weather, and create hurricanes and earthquakes.

please.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   1:51:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lead.and.lag (#11)

Evergreen Link Happy reading.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   1:59:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#13)

Evergreen Link

please post a link to the evergreen press release, especially including the "question and answer" portion of the press release, most especially including the part where evergreen admits it can control weather, and create hurricanes and earthquakes, as per the article from "forbidden knowledge" that you attemped to post a link to.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   2:02:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#17) (Edited)

meanwhile, where do the "chemtrails" come from?

they're clearly coming from the engines, despite what Give Me Liberty said....

i guess it could be, if the bugs are coming from the trailing edges of the wings and control surfaces, that what we're seeing coming from the engines are not "chemtrails" at all.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   2:06:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lead.and.lag, intotheabyss, FormerLurker, farmfriend, All (#18)

meanwhile, where do the "chemtrails" come from?

they're clearly coming from the engines, despite what Give Me Liberty said....

i guess it could be, if the bugs are coming from the trailing edges of the wings and control surfaces, that what we're seeing coming from the engines are not chemtrails at all.

Go, ahead feel free to continue to promote your assigned cover story.

Of course it never occurred to you that there might be multiple delivery systems - some routed through the engine exhaust and other elements routed through the fuel venting system and/or the attached to the plane's sewage system as has been reported by a couple of mechanics.

Of the other tactic you are following is to try make it all so complex sounding that people conclude that it is not understandable.

The basics are really simple:

Contrails form only at 33,000 feet and above under specific temperature and humidity conditions.

Chemtrails are observed emanating from planes as low as ten thousand feet - too low for contrails as the air is too warm at that level.

There are multiple photos and comparisons available online contrasting chemtrails and contrails.

Contrails generally fade after about 20 minutes and often less.

Chemtrails are persistent i.e., they persist for hours forming cloud cover and eventually if the spraying is heavy enough they haze over the entire sky.

The phenomena has been looked at pretty thoroughly by a lot of independent and amateur researchers all of which have concluded that there is some there, there.

However, you are not interested in people providing information which you could easily search for and find yourself.

You are interested in attacking and denigrating anyone who relies on anything other than the official spin.

Yawn.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   2:27:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent (#23)

Contrails generally fade after about 20 minutes and often less.

After a few seconds.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-01-08   2:36:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: wudidiz (#29)

Contrails generally fade after about 20 minutes and often less.

After a few seconds.

I was being generous. Authentic Contrails, on rare occasions, have persisted that long, but you are right it is rare and they are usually gone within about 1 to 3 minutes.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   2:47:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#32)

I know you can't see the vid, but I watched it and the contrail is going past some power lines so it's apparent that the contrail dissipates after 3 or 4 seconds. I timed it with "1 one thousand, 2, one thousand... so it's not precise.

Sorry for interrupting your argument with the troll.

wudidiz  posted on  2012-01-08   3:38:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: wudidiz (#36)

Sorry for interrupting your argument with the troll.

Not a problem. He's getting boring anyway. Same tactics over and over - no imagination - strictly by the talking points manual.

I know you can't see the vid, but I watched it and the contrail is going past some power lines so it's apparent that the contrail dissipates after 3 or 4 seconds. I timed it with "1 one thousand, 2, one thousand... so it's not precise.

Actually I have seen that video - I did take the time to watch it when it was posted by someone else about a year ago or so.

While the ones in there do disperse very quickly I have seen them around here - parallel to chemtrails where they would last for several minutes - but they inevitably fade out, and seeing the two side by side really does underscore the difference.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   3:44:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Original_Intent (#37)

seeing the two side by side really does underscore the difference.

yes, indeed.

and the pilots were reporting their altitude to you, along with the air temperature and humidity...

they were both at the same altitude, the temperature and humidity were the same,so there can be no mistake at all.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-08   3:49:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: lead.and.lag (#38)

seeing the two side by side really does underscore the difference.

yes, indeed.

and the pilots were reporting their altitude to you, along with the air temperature and humidity...

Why yes, we were in telepathic communication the entire time. Wonderful view up there.

Which is of course no more ridiculous than your trollish attempt to once again confuse the issues.

One does not have to have precise technical specifics to observe what is going on over one's head.

Your childish attempt at sarcasm, compounded with the fact that at no time have you ever presented anything beyond your own personal opinions and insults of others, carries such great weight that I am just stricken. Oh, Boo Hoo. Boo hoo hoo. Woe is me.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-08   4:05:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Original_Intent, lead.and.lag, All (#40)

I must say that I see precious little evidence and much subjective speculation behind the assertions with regard to the existence of chemtrails.

A video that asserts "this is X" and "the other is Y" just doesn't get it.

I don't believe the "19 Arab hijacker" hypothesis either and for the same reason. I don't see the evidence that puts the nineteen clowns in the seats of the 911 airliners.

In fact, what we need here is more than just evidence. We need a testable hypothesis with regard to the problem. I'm not certain what that might be in this case.

randge  posted on  2012-01-08   10:36:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: randge (#48)

In fact, what we need here is more than just evidence. We need a testable hypothesis with regard to the problem. I'm not certain what that might be in this case.

Why?

Because leadnlag says so?

We need nothing more than our own eyes and the knowledge that contrails don't stay in the sky for anywhere near as long as chemtrails do. They didn't between 1950 to 1990, so why should they now?

The answer is, they don't. Don't need a scientist to tell me that anymore than I need a scientist to tell me the wtc was blown to smithereens with some sort of explosives.

Do you?

wudidiz  posted on  2012-01-08   14:15:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: wudidiz (#50)

The answer is, they don't. Don't need a scientist to tell me that anymore than I need a scientist to tell me the wtc was blown to smithereens with some sort of explosives.

Amen, anyone with an IQ in the triple digits, a desire to study the facts and an open mind will know that the official story is a load of crap.

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-08   14:30:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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