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Title: Poll: who should be Ron Paul's running mate??
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Published: Jan 10, 2012
Author: X-15
Post Date: 2012-01-10 13:50:29 by X-15
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Views: 1127
Comments: 68

1) Pat Buchanan

2) Dennis Kucinich

3) Paul Craig Roberts

4) Ralph Nader

5) Cynthia McKinney

6) Walter Williams

7) Judge Andrew Napolitano

8) none of the above


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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2012-01-10   13:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

2) Dennis Kucinich


I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-01-10   13:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#0)

Judge Napolitano.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   14:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach, x-15 (#3)

I'd pick Judge Nap too as 1st choice of VP. Jesse ventura as 2nd. Either one would make quite an impressive impact on 2012 politics.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-01-10   14:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15, christine (#0)

8) none of the above

Chrissy.

Sorry Babycakes, you're it. ;P

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936 2012)

Esso  posted on  2012-01-10   14:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#4)

My other pick, besides Judge Napolitano, would be Chuck Baldwin.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   14:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: James Deffenbach (#6)

yeah i supported him & peroutka way back in 04. he's a good guy.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-01-10   14:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: X-15 (#0)

Does anybody like Jessie Ventura?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-01-10   14:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#7)

I supported them too. The only other option was to either vote for establishment clowns or stay at home.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   14:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: X-15 (#0) (Edited)

Rand Paul, to silence the 'He is too old' argument.

Walter Williams, to take the 'black' vote from Obumster.

Judge Andrew Napolitano, ideologically agrees with Paul and would be a positive advocate and champion for the cause of Liberty.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2012-01-10   14:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TwentyTwelve (#8) (Edited)

Jesse Ventura would be a stunt-nomination, for me. I want somebody who can bring something to the table and function within FedGov :-o

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-01-10   14:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#11) (Edited)

obama grows some balls in the last few months of his presidency, and starts calling out the neocons, the big money guys and israel...

ron paul and cynthia mckinney run against him, and win, since they've been consistent through their political careers.

one chance in a million

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-10   14:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: X-15 (#0)

3) Paul Craig Roberts

Double the Paul name on one ticket will make it easier for the brain damaged sheep. He seems like a good choice to me, except he believes in 9/11 truth and Paul apparently doesn't yet.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-01-10   14:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: X-15 (#0) (Edited)

Veep - Jesse Ventura

SoS - Cynthia McKinney

A.G. - Andrew Napolitano

Paul Craig Roberts - Treasury

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-01-10   15:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#14)

Hell of a line up

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   15:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: intotheabyss (#15)

Since I wasn't old enough to vote for Jack Kennedy, that group would be the first real choice that I'd have in my lifetime.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-01-10   15:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#16)

that group would be the first real choice that I'd have in my lifetime.

I'd call it the "dream team"

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   15:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: RickyJ (#13)

He seems like a good choice to me, except he believes in 9/11 truth and Paul apparently doesn't yet.

I'm sure RP's ears would be open to any facts he hasn't yet read or heard about...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-01-10   16:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lysander_Spooner (#10)

Walter Williams, to take the 'black' vote from Obumster.

Obummer is not pure black. He is a mulatto. Half black, half white.

Not that it matters. I recall back when Harold Washington ran for mayor of Chicago, and won, all of the blacks were still wearing Washington buttons AFTER the selection was over.

Vito Marzullo, a City Councilman, said, "We don't need no Washington." ROTFLOL!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-01-10   16:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: BTP Holdings (#19)

Too funny, I was going to school in Chicago during the Washington era.

Teh nigs were crazy about him, he was a low rent crook and a thief.

When he croaked from a massive MI, he was a gluttonous slob also, I cheered.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2012-01-10   17:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: X-15 (#0)

2) Dennis Kucinich


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-01-10   17:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: James Deffenbach, Artisan (#6) (Edited)

My other pick, besides Judge Napolitano, would be Chuck Baldwin.

Republicans will never let that happen. He ran on the Constitution Party last time and the Republicans in the form of Alan Keyes took him off the California ballot, killing any chance he had of bringing in huge numbers.

BTW I have it on good authority that he either is or might be running for Gov of Montana. Can't remember what I was told last.


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-01-10   17:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lysander_Spooner (#10)

Walter Williams, to take the 'black' vote from Obumster.

I'm sorry but while he is Libertarian on a lot of issues he is NeoCon on the Israel Party Line of endless war.

I think I would prefer, as a black candidate, Thomas Sowell, or Bill Cosby.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   18:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#23)

What about Alan Keyes ;)

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   18:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend (#22)

Yeah, I didn't think that the establishment R's would like Chuck that much but then they don't like Ron all that well either. And I can't think of any two people who might be better choice for VP than Napolitano or Baldwin.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   18:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#23)

Thomas Sowell? Are you serious?

Thomas Sowell Supports Newt Gingrich

That would eliminate him from any consideration for veep (at least from me).

And Bill Cosby's support of Obama, surely old enough to know better, would rule him out.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   18:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: James Deffenbach, christin, Original_Intent, X-15, Jethro Tull, bluegrass, abraxas, BTP Holdings, wakeup, tom007, Give Me Liberty, Twenty Twelve, noone222, ghostdogtxn, James Deffenbach, Lod, farmfriend (#25)

Drudge has a poll going on his site, I welcom all to come vote for Paul. Paul is way ahead right now.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   18:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: intotheabyss, farmfriend (#24)

What about Alan Keyes ;)

Ef Alan Keyes. I think farmfriend can tell you all you need to know about him.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   18:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: intotheabyss (#27)

Cool, thanks for the heads up. I shall go forthwith and vote.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   18:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: intotheabyss (#27)

Do you have a link to the poll? I went to Drudge's site and never saw it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   18:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: James Deffenbach, intotheabyss (#30)

Do you have a link to the poll? I went to Drudge's site and never saw it.

4um: DRUDGE PRIMARY NOW OPEN

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-01-10   18:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: James Deffenbach (#30)

Twenty Twelve posted one...

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   18:41:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TwentyTwelve, intotheabyss (#31)

Yeah, thanks. I saw your post/thread and went there and voted. As of now these are the results:

NEWT GINGRICH 15.63% (41,715 votes)

JON HUNTSMAN 5.02% (13,386 votes)

RON PAUL 29.88% (79,745 votes)

RICK PERRY 5.07% (13,528 votes)

MITT ROMNEY 25.31% (67,552 votes)

RICK SANTORUM 19.09% (50,944 votes)

Total Votes: 266,870

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   18:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: X-15, TwentyTwelve (#11)

Jesse Ventura would be a stunt-nomination, for me. I want somebody who can bring something to the table and function within FedGov :-o

Myself I think Jesse would make a great Attorney General.

For VP, I'd pick Judge Napolitano.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-01-10   18:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

I didn't know about Sowell supporting the salamander - or I should say I'd forgotten.

As for Cosby - yeah he has supported the Kenyan, but interestingly some of his essays have a libertarian, almost, viewpoint. However, supporting the usurper would seem to exclude him.

However, I would like to see more libertarian outreach to blacks - the problem of course is that the Social Welfare System has made them unwitting supporters of their own second enslavement to the State. If blacks think that Lyndon Bane Johnson began the the "Great Society" out of the goodness of his cold yellow heart they need to educate themselves. It was, and is, a PsyOp to blunt the demand for equal and just treatment and put them back onto a different plantation - one with "kinder, gentler Overseers". Some have figured this out but not enough. And with unemployment running at near 50% among black teens that is not a recipe for social contentment.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   18:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: intotheabyss (#24)

What about Alan Keyes ;)

While he talks a good game he's basically just another "House Nigger" who sucks up to the elites.

Isaac Hayes would have been a good choice but unfortunately he's gone.

How about John Shaft?

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   18:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#36) (Edited)

he's basically just another "House Nigger" who sucks up to the elites.

It's sad isn't it but true.

How about Louis Farrakhan ;)

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   19:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Original_Intent (#36)

How about John Shaft?

We already got the shaft

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   19:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: intotheabyss (#37)

How about Louis Farrakhan ;)

Oh HELL NO!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   19:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: intotheabyss (#38)

How about John Shaft?

We already got the shaft

Touche! ;-)

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   19:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: intotheabyss (#37)

It's sad isn't it but true.

How about Louis Farrakhan ;)

Would he bring his Calypso Band?

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   19:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Original_Intent (#41)

Would he bring his Calypso Band?

It would be an entertaining diversion

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   19:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: TwentyTwelve (#8)

Does anybody like Jessie Ventura?

Jesse is shallow.

Hell, he asked Alex to save him from the bad men that are lying about him.

Judge Napolitano needs to be close but, maybe not VP. VPs don't do much.

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wakeup  posted on  2012-01-10   19:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#23)

I think I would prefer, as a black candidate, Thomas Sowell, or Bill Cosby.

The Cos just does not have the skills.

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wakeup  posted on  2012-01-10   19:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: lead.and.lag (#12)

I like Cynthia McKinney. She would do well as VP and supporting the President's projects.

That would certainly eliminate the racist issue, would it not?

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wakeup  posted on  2012-01-10   19:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Lod (#14)

Veep - Jesse Ventura

SoS - Cynthia McKinney

A.G. - Andrew Napolitano

Paul Craig Roberts - Treasury

I would swap the first two.

The Secretary of State is just one step above the Military
in the chain of command. That would be perfect for Jesse.

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wakeup  posted on  2012-01-10   19:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: wakeup (#46) (Edited)

The Secretary of State is just one step above the Military in the chain of command. That would be perfect for Jesse.

I can just envision him chomping on a cigar and giving the Joint Chiefs a thorough working over. I think I would put him at SecDef. He's a veteran and I think Enlisted rather than a Zero so there would be less tendency to play "Old Boy Network". Give me a no nonsense NonCom any day over some "Cake Eater". Or just arbitrarily appoint the Sgt. Major of the Marine Corps as SecDef.

As a side note the Navy ran a very embarrassing readiness drill back in the 70's where they pretended that all the officers of a ship were killed and the Master Chief of The Command had to take over as Skipper. The ships got underweigh with fewer problems and well under the required time. They then ran better at sea. Needless to say the results were quickly buried.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   19:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: wakeup (#46)

As Jesse told AJ, I'd be the best life insurance policy that Ron could ever have.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-01-10   19:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: X-15 (#0)

Assuming Paul gets the nomination -- or if he repeats his 2008 strategy and runs for a Third Party -- his VP choice should be VERY carefully made. Ron Paul will be, if elected, entering the White House almost the same age as Reagan was when he left it. With the oldest President ever in office, there's a very distinct likelihood that the VP will be elevated to the Presidency or at least the Acting Presidency. So I would think Paul's VP should be someone so good that they'd be elected President themselves.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-01-10   22:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Shoonra (#49) (Edited)

Ron Paul will be, if elected, entering the White House almost the same age as Reagan was when he left it. With the oldest President ever in office, there's a very distinct likelihood that the VP will be elevated to the Presidency

yup.

if mckinney were vice president, you guys would for sure have to crank up your iran/north korea nuke false flag ploy, and eliminate the american government and its pretense at democracy... how bout a little israeli nuke going off at the state of the union speech?

who do you have in mind for dictator, once the current crop of zionist stooges is eliminated from the american government? ...bill kristol? ...eliot abrams? ...richard perle? ...scooter? ...angela keaton?

the last thing we need is a president that's willing to speak at least some o the ruth about israel, like mckinney.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-11   0:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Shoonra (#49) (Edited)

if you guys decided it was time to go for all the marbles, you wouldnt need to televise the false flag, would you?

nope, eliminate the president, vice president, congress and lots of the military brass in one fell swoop, with a nuke at the state of the union speech, and have an apparatus already in place to take over, supported by the zionist media.

there'd be no need for saturation coverage of the actual event as it happened.

no sweat, GI.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-11   1:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Shoonra (#49)

Judge Andrew Napolitano

christine  posted on  2012-01-11   2:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Original_Intent (#36)

How about John Shaft?

hehehehe

christine  posted on  2012-01-11   2:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: X-15 (#0)

My vote is for 6 (Walter Williams) nutralizes the race card without the FARO RESERVE BANK and woman baggage of Herman Cain.

Never on 2 (Dennis Kucinich) for ANY executive position as he is one to the worst GUN GRABBERS amongst congresscritters.

Number 7 (Judge Andrew Nepolatano) for first SCOTUS pick if Paul should get one.

Photobucket The FARO RESERVE BANK!!! Photobucket

Coral Snake  posted on  2012-01-11   7:25:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: TwentyTwelve (#8)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2012-01-11   10:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Shoonra (#49)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2012-01-11   10:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: ghostdogtxn (#55)

I like Jesse Ventura a lot. I think he's honest and unafraid to ask tough questions. That said, I think he's a liability on the ticket. I'd go with Napolitano.

I agree with you. I really like Jessie Ventura but feel that he might be a liability.

Why do you think he is a liability?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-01-11   11:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: TwentyTwelve (#57)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2012-01-11   11:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: ghostdogtxn (#56)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure your pals in the Mossad would be at least second, maybe even first in line to kill him.

I disagree. That would be too obvious, even for the brain-dead sheeple. Besides, it would make him a martyr which is the last thing they want. No, what they will likely do is stage another 9/11 event and murder thousands of more Americans in order to discredit Dr. Paul's non-interventionist views.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-01-11   11:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, ghostdogtxn (#59)

I disagree. That would be too obvious, even for the brain-dead sheeple. Besides, it would make him a martyr which is the last thing they want. No, what they will likely do is stage another 9/11 event and murder thousands of more Americans in order to discredit Dr. Paul's non-interventionist views.

I thought that is what they were doing recently with Iran. There was a lot of coverage in the debates about whether Iran was dangerous or not and suddenly they are threatening to shut the straights.


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-01-11   11:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: X-15 (#0)

Paul Craig Roberts

PCR would be an excellent choice, if he accepts. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-01-14   15:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: farmfriend (#60)

and suddenly they are threatening to shut the straights.

That would be just plain stupid. All of Iran's oil must go out thru the Straits of Hormuz. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-01-14   15:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: James Deffenbach, farmfriend (#28)

I think farmfriend can tell you all you need to know about him.

Well, farmfriend, what's the scoop? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-01-17   16:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: James Deffenbach, intotheabyss, BTP Holdings (#28)

Ef Alan Keyes. I think farmfriend can tell you all you need to know about him.

Oh yes, I can tell you about Alan Keyes. First you have to understand that despite only being in California, the American Independent Party is the third largest party in the nation. We were affiliated with the Constitution Party from the beginning. Currently, until I re-register to vote for Dr. Paul, I am the secretary for the Sacramento Central Committee AIP.

Now prior to the 08 election you will remember that there were border groups bringing our porous borders into the news. Then there was a big stink about Simcox and the missing MCDC funds. Well the funds were funneled through a non profit called Declaration Alliance 501 C(4) chaired by Keyes.

As we all know from watching Jesse Jackson, running for President can be very profitable. Keyes has decided to follow suite. Failing to make inroads in the Republican pary he decided to make a play for the Constitution party nomination in 08. Now there is some controversy over whether the fix was in but the CP chose Chuck Baldwin to be their nominee. Not to be deterred, Alan worked with several AIP leaders to steal California's ballot access away from Baldwin and give it to Keyes in 08. The questionable leadership, one of which is a paid Republican operative, held a fake state convention at which the disaffiliated with the Constitution Party and affiliated with Keyes' newly created America's Independent Party. This caused a split in the party that has not healed today.

So as far as I am concerned Keyes is no more than a conservative form of Jesse Jackson.


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-01-17   19:11:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: farmfriend, F.A. Hayek Fan, ghostdogtxn (#60)

another 9/11 event and murder thousands of more Americans in order to discredit Dr. Paul's non-interventionist views.

I thought that is what they were doing recently with Iran. There was a lot of coverage in the debates about whether Iran was dangerous or not and suddenly they are threatening to shut the straights.

I think the intent here was to create a war by forcing Iran into a corner and making them react in a way that could be spun as "provocative" thus justifying Oh'bummer's misuse of American Forces to "intervene" for the "common good". However, Russia, China, and most of Europe blinked, and withdrew from cutting their own throats to further Israeli Geopolitical designs. So, for now the provocation of Iran into making a move that could be misrepresented in the Amurkin' Media to justify another war has fizzled.

As a side note Ron Paul's campaign has further so eroded the credibility of the major Zionist Media that many more people are waking up to their other lies and it is, as long as the internet remains open, getting more and more difficult for them to sell the lies as there is clear, factual, contradictory information readily available on the 'net.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-17   19:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: X-15 (#0)

The only way I could answer his question was to ask myself who would be the best president. It was a tie between Pat Buchanan and Andrew Napolitano. Paul Craig Roberts comes in a very close second, experience being the only factor edging him out of first choice.

Kucinich is too anti-2A for me to consider for president. It would be a mistake to put him on the ticket. Ron Paul already has the anti-war vote, Dennis brings nothing.

I respect Nader's intellect, and almost half the time I agree with him. He is damaged goods, and would mostly serve to antagonise zombie Democrats.

Cynthia McKinney would be wonderful as VP, but I don't thin the country is ready for her.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-01-17   19:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Original_Intent (#23)

U got me.....

How bout Ice Cube ...

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2012-01-18   1:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: farmfriend (#64)

So as far as I am concerned Keyes is no more than a conservative form of Jesse Jackson.

And THAT we can do without! ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-01-18   16:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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