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Title: New Bill Known As Enemy Expatriation Act Would Allow Government To Strip Citizenship Without Conviction
Source: Addicting Info
URL Source: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/0 ... itizenship-without-conviction/
Published: Jan 6, 2012
Author: Stephen Foster Jr.
Post Date: 2012-01-10 13:52:10 by bush_is_a_moonie
Keywords: None
Views: 1784
Comments: 21

First, Congress considered the National Defense Authorization Act, sections of which gave the President the authority to use the military to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans without trial or charge. The language was revised because of strong condemnation from the American people. But now a new bill has emerged that poses yet another threat to the American citizenry.

Congress is considering HR 3166 and S. 1698 also known as the Enemy Expatriation Act, sponsored by Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Charles Dent (R-PA). This bill would give the US government the power to strip Americans of their citizenship without being convicted of being “hostile” against the United States. In other words, you can be stripped of your nationality for “engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.” Legally, the term “hostilities” means any conflict subject to the laws of war but considering the fact that the War on Terror is a little ambiguous and encompassing, any action could be labeled as supporting terrorism. Since the Occupy movement began, conservatives have been trying to paint the protesters as terrorists.

The new law would change a part of US Code 1481 which can be read in full here. Compare 3166 to 1481 and the change is small. The new section makes no reference to being convicted as it does in section (7). So even though the language of the NDAA has been revised to exclude American citizens, the US government merely has to strip Americans of their citizenship and the NDAA will apply. And they will be able to do so without convicting the accused in a court of law.

I hope I’m wrong, but it sounds to me like this is a loophole for indefinitely detaining Americans. Once again, you just have to be accused of supporting hostilities which could be defined any way the government sees fit. Then the government can strip your citizenship and apply the indefinite detention section of the NDAA without the benefit of a trial. This certainly must be questioned by American citizens. The way these defense obsessed Republicans think, our rights are always in danger of being taken away.

To read the full text of the bill http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-3166

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#1. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0) (Edited)

I thought NDAA2012 already passed with no changes to the language.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat..._Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012


I support the occupation
Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.

titorite  posted on  2012-01-10   14:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

The way these defense obsessed Republicans think, our rights are always in danger of being taken away.

A. It is not just Republicans.

B. It is not about defense it is specifically about enslaving the American People.

This has to be taken in a larger context as it all fits into the larger picture. Any one single piece is bad enough but when you put them all together the one thing they don't spell is "mother".

Taken along with SOPA which is aimed not at online piracy but online dissent and stifling free speech the picture gets clearer.

Throw in State Controlled and mandated Hellthcare, FEMA Kamps, the systematic militarization of police, and now the gutting of the protections of the Bill of Rights and what you have spells S-L-A-V-E-R-Y.

AND IT IS NOT A MATTER OF DEMOCONS OR REPUBLICRATS AS BOTH HAVE PARTICIPATED AND FORWARDED IT.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   14:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: titorite (#1)

I thought NDAA2012 already passed with no changes to the language.

Oh, the media and left leaning bullshithorns are pretending that somehow Oh'bummer's unconstitutional signing statement means something.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   14:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#2)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2012-01-10   14:14:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)

LET SLIP THE SPIRIT OF '76!

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   14:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#2)

B. It is not about defense it is specifically about enslaving the American People.

It's an odd anomaly in the animal kingdom, where the parasite is controlling the host.

The Whore of Babylon riding the seven-headed Beast

Or for the layman APAC steering Northcom.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   14:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#2)

militarization of police

I saw a story last week about police in TX who killed a lil kid who was holding a pellet gun. very tragic. theyre trained to kill as first option, it seems.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-01-10   14:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#2)

A message for all the Congress critters and Senators who voted to pass it and especially the Kenyan who signed the damnable NDAA:

Jump you F*#kers!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   14:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: intotheabyss (#6)

Or for the layman APAC steering Northcom.

However, too many people do not follow the threads all the way back to the Beast. The Beast resides in The City of London not Tel Aviv. Israel is a smokescreen for Rothschild/Warburg/Royal machinations.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   14:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: James Deffenbach (#8)

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Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   14:23:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#7)

I saw a story last week about police in TX who killed a lil kid who was holding a pellet gun. very tragic. theyre trained to kill as first option, it seems.

Iff der peepul do naht do ass they are tolt they fill be CHOT!

Der State ist not to be disrespected.

Big Brother Loves You.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   14:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#11)

Iff der peepul do naht do ass they are tolt they fill be CHOT!

Der State ist not to be disrespected.

Big Brother Loves You.

LOL! Dude, you got that Nazi storm trooper thing down good!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-01-10   14:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Totally unconstitutional bills. It is time to expatriate Congress, excluding Ron Paul of course, the President, Judges, and the bankers and start from scratch, these parasites aren't needed or wanted.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-01-10   14:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#9) (Edited)

The Beast resides in The City of London not Tel Aviv. Israel is a smokescreen for Rothschild/Warburg/Royal machinations.

That may be true when it comes to the "top dog" calling the shots, but the control the Zionists have is formidable. Like the time Netanyahu recieved 29 standing ovations from congress, more than any of our puppetents...opps I mean presidents have ever recieved.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   14:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

In other words, you can be stripped of your nationality for “engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.”

Does that mean you can be stripped of your nationality for writing about and talking about the crimes of the United States and how it is controlled by Israel?

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   14:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

The way these defense obsessed Republicans think, our rights are always in danger of being taken away.

Syephen Foster Jr. shows that he is still stuck in the two-party paradigm BS.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   14:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: intotheabyss (#14)

The Beast resides in The City of London not Tel Aviv. Israel is a smokescreen for Rothschild/Warburg/Royal machinations.

That may be true when it comes to the "top dog" calling the shots, but the control the Zionists have is formidable. Like the time Netanyahu recieved 29 standing ovations from congress, more than any of our puppetents...opps I mean presidents have ever recieved.

No argument - it is just that Netanyahu takes his orders from London.

You have to dig into the history of both Israel and Zionism, but the thumbnail is that BOTH were financed and controlled by the Rothschild Fambly from early on. The 1917 Balfour Declaration was passed at the insistence of Lord Rothschild.

Israel is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Rothschild Crime Family.

Take a look at the photos of the Israeli Supreme Court building (they're available online at various locations) and observe the symbolism built into it. The building was paid for by the Rothschilds.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   14:53:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#17) (Edited)

Israel is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Rothschild Crime Family.

I am in total agreement on this, hense all the oil from Iraq goes to the "Red Shields"

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-10   14:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#2)

Has any government ever successfully enslaved a heavily armed populace? If that's their intention, they've got their work cut out for 'em.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2012-01-10   15:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Obnoxicated (#19)

The arms are, at this point largely symbolic, and the bad guys are working hard to neuter even that.

The problems we face will not be resolved by violence. Meeting force with force results only in deadlock and destruction. That does not mean I think people should lie back supinely and accept rape. However, the philosophy of Jiu Jitsu and Aikido suggest that the force of the opponent may be redirected so as to have no effect.

What changes things is the changes in people - as they awaken, and more have and more are daily. You can see that is viewed as a threat by those who would be slave masters by the speed with which they are trying to ram through their unconstitutional slave state legislation. Our job is to fight back, to expose the criminal behavior, and simply begins with the decision, "I am not a slave and I refuse to agree to be a slave."

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-10   17:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Artisan, Original_Intent (#7)

I saw a story last week about police in TX who killed a lil kid who was holding a pellet gun. very tragic. theyre trained to kill as first option, it seems.

yeah but pictures of the gun showed it looked real enough. I would have shot too. But yes they are trained to kill.


changing the puppet does not change the play.

farmfriend  posted on  2012-01-10   17:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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