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Title: Paul fights Washington spending, flies first class
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Yahoo News/Associated Press
URL Source: http://old.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20120116/ap_on_el_pr/us_paul_travel
Published: Jan 16, 2012
Author: BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE and STEPHEN BRAUN, A
Post Date: 2012-01-16 11:05:00 by Phant2000
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Comments: 33
WASHINGTON – Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has been spending large amounts on airfare as a congressman, flying first class on dozens of taxpayer-funded flights to his home state. The practice conflicts with the image that Paul portrays as the only presidential candidate serious about cutting federal spending. Paul flew first class on at least 31 round-trip flights and 12 one-way flights since May 2009 when he was traveling between Washington and his district in Texas, according to a review by The Associated Press of his congressional office expenses. Four other round-trip tickets and two other one-way tickets purchased during the period were eligible for upgrades to first-class after they were bought, but those upgrades would not be documented in the expense records. Paul, whose distrust of big government is the centerpiece of his presidential campaign, trusts the more expensive government rate for Continental Airlines when buying his tickets. Paul chose not to buy the cheaper economy tickets at a fraction of the price because they aren't refundable or as flexible for scheduling, his congressional staff said. "We always get him full refundable tickets since the congressional schedule sometimes changes quickly," said Jeff Deist, Paul's chief of staff. Paul might have to pay out of his own pocket for canceled flights in some cases if he didn't buy refundable tickets, Deist said. But records show that most of the flights for Paul were purchased well in advance and few schedule changes were necessary. Nearly two-thirds of the 49 tickets were purchased at least two weeks in advance, and 42 percent were bought at least three weeks in advance, the AP's review found. Paul charged taxpayers nearly $52,000 on the more expensive tickets, or $27,621 more than the average Continental airfare for the flights between Washington and Houston, according to the AP's review of his congressional expenses and average airfares compiled by the Department of Transportation. The more expensive tickets have other benefits as well, including allowing Paul to upgrade to first class when his staff reserves a flight because his frequent government travel gives him membership in an elite class of Continental customers who earn travel perks. Upgrades to first-class with cheaper fares are possible, at times limited to available seats days before the flight. But those upgrades are not guaranteed and some require ticket changes at the airport, according to the airline's frequent flyer rules. The AP reviewed congressional travel before the Iowa caucuses for the two members of Congress running at the time — Paul and Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota. Bachmann later ended her presidential campaign. House records show Bachmann, like most other congressional members, also paid the more expensive government rate for airfare. But her staff would not provide access to more detailed expense records that show when and what type of tickets were purchased. Paul's congressional staff provided access to all expense records requested. Congressional members don't have to pay the government rate for travel, but most do, including many like Paul and Bachmann who advocate cuts in federal spending. "You could almost always beat the government rate," said Steve Ellis, vice president of the Washington-based Taxpayers for Common Sense, a federal budget watchdog group. "They need to be walking the walk, and one of the ways they can do that is to be fiscally responsible for how they spend their member office money." Jesse Benton, Paul's campaign manager, didn't respond to a written request to explain how Paul's use of more expensive airfare, which allows him to fly first class, corresponds with his commitment to cut federal spending. Instead, he sent a statement that started, "No one is more committed to cutting spending than Dr. Paul." But Paul's congressional travel conflicts with claims in campaign appearances that he's the most frugal and serious deficit hawk in the race. "The talk you hear in Washington is pure talk, because there is nobody suggesting, the other candidates are not talking about real cuts," Paul said in a speech to supporters last week after his second-place finish in New Hampshire. He has proposed cutting $1 trillion from the federal budget during his first year as president, and has confronted other candidates in public forums as "big government conservatives." "You're a big spender, that's all there is to it," Paul told former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania during a GOP debate in New Hampshire. Paul boasts on his website about declining other congressional perks, such as a pension and all-expense-paid travel "junkets" that other lawmakers take. And he says he regularly returns money from his congressional account to the treasury. But when it comes to his congressional travel, Paul has opted not to search for cheaper airfares that could mean returning more of his office account to the treasury, which uses any money returned by House or Senate members to help reduce the federal deficit. Paul paid $51,972 for his government-rate flights between Washington and Houston between May 2009 and March 2011, or more than twice the $24,351 average airfare on Continental for travel between Washington and Houston. The average airfare figure represents the price for all tickets purchased for Continental flights between Washington and Houston, including economy and first-class travel, according to the Transportation Department's Domestic Airline Fares Consumer Report, which collects airfare information for the nation's busiest travel routes. Paul's staff regularly booked him in first class on flights when tickets were purchased, according to expense records. His office paid between $1,217 and $1,311 for each round-trip flight, compared to the average airfare for that trip ranging from $528 to $760, according to the airline fares consumer report. The period reviewed by the AP was the most recent period for which complete congressional expense records were available. Poster Comment: At least he doesn't use a 747 Air Force Charter to fly to Texas, nor does he fly on Air Force One to Europe with 100 others on vacation.
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#1. To: Phant2000 (#0)
If anyone ever deserved to fly first class, it's Ron Paul, a class act.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson Already read this article on TOS 2 and have to say that while Ron may enjoy flying first class he is correct in that non-refundable tickets can be a bit expensive if there is some reason you can't fly on the day you booked the trip. And there is also the fact that Ron, alone among members of the House (so far as I know), has regularly returned money to the Treasury and has said he will refuse the government pension. He has also said that, if he were elected he would ask that his salary be no more than the median of all American workers, somewhere around 49,000 a year iirc. Beyond that, Ron does not (so far as I know anyway) waste other people's money on expensive junkets/"fact finding" trips. edited to add: I don't know anyone who really ENJOYS flying these days unless they have their own plane or can afford a charter where they don't have to go through the stupid "security" crap they have foisted off on us. Flying used to be a pleasure a long time ago but it hasn't been that in a good while. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#10. To: echo5sierra (#1) This article shows just how good Paul is with taxpayer money. He flies first class (like a boss) He should not fly economy class, it is for the young and skinny people without any circulation problems. And first or business class in incomparably cheaper than private jets used by the wealthy. A Pole posted on 2012-01-16 10:57:16 ET Reply Trace He sure has that right about how that is so much cheaper than chartering a private jet. Remember what I told you it would cost me to charter one for about a ten-hour flight? Almost 200,000 if I remember correctly. Way out of my league. But then so is first class commercial to the place I was talking about going to. For some reason the airlines, or the people who run them, believe that if you are flying to Brazil you have a gold mine there and can afford to pay any outrageous amount they ask. Even the cattle car (coach) isn't what I would call cheap. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi "If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken "..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
That's it, I can't vote for a big-spender!! Ron Paul should be hitch-hiking in order to save taxpayer $$$'s. Just think of all the disadvantaged youth and senior citizens who could have used those first-class seats to lift themselves up out of poverty and despair!!! That's how the MSM will spin this story.
#2. To: Phant2000 (#0)
(Edited)
#3. To: Lod (#1)
from LP:
#4. To: Phant2000 (#0)
-Alex Kurtagic
#5. To: Lod (#1)
THIS! He should be carried around in a Sudan chair by Nubian slaves as a thank you for trying to restore the nation. At 76 y/o he's doing more than a man in his 50s. If anyone ever deserved to fly first class, it's Ron Paul, a class act.
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
Amen. He should be carried around in a Sudan chair by Nubian slaves as a thank you for trying to restore the nation. At 76 y/o he's doing more than a man in his 50s.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson
#7. To: James Deffenbach (#3)
I took the cheap flight to Rio for Carnival about 25 years ago. The plane left Los Angeles about 3:00 AM. There was about an hour layover in Miami, then an all night wild ride via Líneas Aereas Paraguayas in an old Douglas DC-3, or something like that. Then a visa check in Paraquay for some unk reason, then over to Rio via another no-name airline. All together I think it was about a 27 hour trip, but it was only $410 each way or round trip, I don't remember which. "... the airlines, or the people who run them, believe that if you are flying to Brazil you have a gold mine there and can afford to pay any outrageous amount they ask."
#8. To: James Deffenbach (#3)
You left out the rest of my post.
#9. To: Big Meanie (#7)
Yeah, if you went during Carnival that was probably a good price, even back then. That is high season down there and tickets at that time reflect it. These days you would probably be lucky to get a ticket there for double that price.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#10. To: echo5sierra (#8) (Edited)
I did? What are you referring to? edit: I just posted A Pole's reply and I included everything that was in that reply. You left out the rest of my post.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#11. To: James Deffenbach (#10)
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: cranky (#0) This article shows just how good Paul is with taxpayer money. He flies first class (like a boss) and still is able to return 100,000 dollars to the treasury every year! (bigger boss)! He doesn't even participate in the pension program, which saves us even more money! echo5sierra posted on 2012-01-16 9:34:38 ET Reply Trace
#12. To: Phant2000, Jethro Tull, Eric Stratton, Lod, IRTorqued, Original_Intent, FormerLurker, Turtle, Artisan, wudidiz, christine (#0)
Ron Paul needs the flexibility to cancel flights. If he bought non refundable tickets and missed any flights he'd be "a wasteful govt sloth who spends like a drunken sailor". His airfare should be juxtaposed with that of Nancy Pelosi's, who as Speaker Of The House demanded an air force jet to and from her CA home and to Europe for her entire entourage. As 3rd in line for the Empirical Crown Of The Corporate States Of America she fully expected to fly in a manner befitting her high office. Personally, I'd prefer that Paul didn't fly at all because Israeli companies are so heavily termited into America's airports. And, "ol' Mr. Yu know hudi" would crash an entire commercial flight just to end their misery of Ron Paul's popularity with not only freedom loving Americans, but people around the world who view him as our best hope of restoring America as the beacon of freedom to which they aspire.
"Well my daddy worked in the coal mine ‘Till the company shut it down Then he sat around and drank hisself blind ‘Till we put him back underground"__OXYCONTIN BLUES By Steve Earle
#13. To: Phant2000 (#0)
Sometimes I suspect that RP is too good to be true, however there may be a method to this madness. Could RP possibly be supporting Continental Airlines by indirect taxation on the people? P'raps he thinks this is a good cause and a way to divert gov't spending into areas that create and preserve jobs. Paul paid $51,972 for his government-rate flights between Washington and Houston between May 2009 and March 2011, or more than twice the $24,351 average airfare on Continental for travel between Washington and Houston.
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
#14. To: echo5sierra (#11)
He doesn't even participate in the pension program, which saves us even more money! Ok, thanks for the clarification. Ron saves a lot of opm (other people's money) by not doing much of what the rest of them do in Washington. I have never heard of him taking a vacation which was described as a "fact finding tour." Most of them do that. Obama seems to love to keep Air Force One hot and in the air a big part of the time while the heffalump (Manchelle) flies on another one because she wanted to leave sooner, stay longer or maybe just didn't particularly enjoy the company of the Kenyan. But the person who wrote the article criticizing Ron would probably be the first to accuse him of not being able to swim if he saw him walking on water. This article shows just how good Paul is with taxpayer money. He flies first class (like a boss) and still is able to return 100,000 dollars to the treasury every year! (bigger boss)!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#15. To: angK (#13)
I don't know what RP's agenda is in flying first class. After reading the article, this is what came to mind: "Is this all the MSM can come up with to embarrass Paul? If so, they sure waste their time on triviality, considering all the criminal acts that SHOULD be reported in D.C." Could RP possibly be supporting Continental Airlines by indirect taxation on the people? P'raps he thinks this is a good cause and a way to divert gov't spending into areas that create and preserve jobs.
#16. To: Phant2000 (#15)
Excellent observation! "Is this all the MSM can come up with to embarrass Paul? If so, they sure waste their time on triviality, considering all the criminal acts that SHOULD be reported in D.C."
It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
Great idea, but can they peel grapes? He should be carried around in a Sedan chair by Nubian slaves as a thank you for trying to restore the nation.
#18. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)
Thanks Dawggie, I hoped someone would recall peeloosely's commandeering of AF jet transports for her and her family to do their gallavanting around in. His airfare should be juxtaposed with that of Nancy Pelosi's, who as Speaker Of The House demanded an air force jet to and from her CA home and to Europe for her entire entourage. As 3rd in line for the Empirical Crown Of The Corporate States Of America she fully expected to fly in a manner befitting her high office.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (
#19. To: Phant2000 (#0)
I've flown First Class many times just to be the first one off the dang bird. LOL
#20. To: Esso (#18)
They steal things large and small. I remember when the Speaker of the House Tom Foley was nabbed by a stewardess cramming all the first class sandwiches and dainties he could lay his hands on into his bag as the plane was emptying out. It's not enough that these guys get a free feed wherever they go. They have to rip off airlines too. RP is a senior and a congressman and has artificial knees. He can fly first class all he wants, AFAIC. These AP scribblers are scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to dig up dirt. Their masters are tearing their hair out for the lack of sleaze to throw RP's way. hoped someone would recall peeloosely's commandeering of AF jet transports for her and her family to do their gallavanting around in.
#21. To: Lod (#1)
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson I do not think a candidate could fly miserable class for a pol campagin and not look like some one you would not want to leave your pet with. If anyone ever deserved to fly first class, it's Ron Paul, a class act.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#22. To: randge (#20)
randge posted on 2012-01-16 19:24:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply As if his airfare has anything to do with the issue. RP is a senior and a congressman and has artificial knees. He can fly first class all he wants, AFAIC. These AP scribblers are scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to dig up dirt. Their masters are tearing their hair out for the lack of sleaze to throw RP's way.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#23. To: Esso (#18)
Yeah, Buddy, and there was no shaming her! She'd just talk any critics down at public gatherings, secure in her "right to spend that kash"! I really despise America's political nobility, the incumbents for life who will use dirty tricks including those so shocking that most wouldn't believe it unless they spent a summer at Patriots' camp learning the truth that's out there for the taking by resourceful people but never seen on MSM and therefore unknown to a shameful majority of weak pisswillies. I hoped someone would recall peeloosely's commandeering of AF jet transports for her and her family to do their gallavanting around in.
"Well my daddy worked in the coal mine ‘Till the company shut it down Then he sat around and drank hisself blind ‘Till we put him back underground"__OXYCONTIN BLUES By Steve Earle
#24. To: randge (#20)
RP is a senior and a congressman and has artificial knees. He can fly first class all he wants, AFAIC. These AP scribblers are scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to dig up dirt. Their masters are tearing their hair out for the lack of sleaze to throw RP's way. Roger to both points. They steal things large and small. I remember when the Speaker of the House Tom Foley was nabbed by a stewardess cramming all the first class sandwiches and dainties he could lay his hands on into his bag as the plane was emptying out. It's not enough that these guys get a free feed wherever they go. They have to rip off airlines too.
"Well my daddy worked in the coal mine ‘Till the company shut it down Then he sat around and drank hisself blind ‘Till we put him back underground"__OXYCONTIN BLUES By Steve Earle
#25. To: randge (#20)
You said it. Ron Paul has NO dirt on him and can not be bought: These AP scribblers are scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to dig up dirt. Their masters are tearing their hair out for the lack of sleaze to throw RP's way.
-Alex Kurtagic
#26. To: tom007 (#22)
randge posted on 2012-01-16 19:24:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply As if his airfare has anything to do with the issue. If he economized on airfare he'd be portrayed as an eccentric kook with no grasp of the scale of the govt's budget. Wolf Blitzer asks, "Would you want a president who takes a bus across town together with his SS detail to save money if it means that every passenger would have to come off and be wanded before the Prez steps on?"? (graphics showing a wild-eyed Ron Paul with a propeller beanie as passengers assume the position for searches on the side of the bus)RP is a senior and a congressman and has artificial knees. He can fly first class all he wants, AFAIC. These AP scribblers are scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to dig up dirt. Their masters are tearing their hair out for the lack of sleaze to throw RP's way.
"Well my daddy worked in the coal mine ‘Till the company shut it down Then he sat around and drank hisself blind ‘Till we put him back underground"__OXYCONTIN BLUES By Steve Earle
#27. To: angK (#13)
A bit off subject, but if you want to launder international dollars, Airlines are the way. supporting Continental Airlines by indirect taxation on the
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#28. To: HOUNDDAWG (#26)
It's another version of the Iran Conundrum. Iran builds nuclear power plant - Eeeeek! They're building bombs! NUKE IRAN! Iran doesn't build nuclear plant - Eeeek! They're wasting OUR oil! NUKE IRAN! If he economized on airfare he'd be portrayed as an eccentric kook with no grasp of the scale of the govt's budget.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (
#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)
yes, the larry mcdonald story comes to mind. As far as Paul, I'd assume that most normal people wouldnt view flying 1st class for a presidential candidate (or anyone for that matter) as unreasonable or excessive.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#30. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
on our way back from new york a few years ago, the lady at the ticket counter inadvertently gave us some paper which stated that I am on the TSA watch list. Damn i thought that was hilarious. LoL! but it hasn't been that in a good while.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
#31. To: Esso (#28)
Iran builds nuclear power plant - Eeeeek! They're building bombs! NUKE IRAN! Iran doesn't build nuclear plant - Eeeek! They're wasting OUR oil! NUKE IRAN! Phunnie! It's another version of the Iran Conundrum.
"Well my daddy worked in the coal mine ‘Till the company shut it down Then he sat around and drank hisself blind ‘Till we put him back underground"__OXYCONTIN BLUES By Steve Earle
#32. To: Artisan (#30)
Oh, only to find out now that I have been consorting with terriers, oh the humanity! on our way back from new york a few years ago, the lady at the ticket counter inadvertently gave us some paper which stated that I am on the TSA watch list. Damn i thought that was hilarious. LoL!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
#33. To: Artisan (#29)
That angered me to a point where I thought things I shouldn't have been thinking. Fact No. one: Congressman Larry McDonald was the #1 anti commie in all of congress. He was the iron spine of both John Birch and Western Goals Foundation, and one cannot rule out the possibility that he was a dogmatic liability to pragmatic factions of our own Intel "community". And I heard two stories. One version was that KAL flt 007 (what a coincidental flight number, and that may have aggravated the paranoia of the Ruskies) "inadvertantly" drifted over a sensitive military installation in order to photograph the new MIG ALIEN Transformer plane (code name Optimus Prime) or some such technology. (Knowing what we know about our satellites now I can't imagine what a commercial flight could have ripped off that our birds couldn't see) One version is that 007 was shot down after being ordered to follow an intercept squadron. The other story is that the plane was forced to land and MacDonald was taken hostage, and he disappeared down that same commie brown star hole as our WWII, Korean and Nam vets who were taken to The USSR. But, is that plausible? Well, I just can't help but think that the Ruskies had help and in return they helped rogues in the US by eliminating a zealot who didn't really "get it". For instance, what's the diff between JFK expressing the goal of shattering the CIA into a thousand pieces because he saw it as the threat it was-a secret govt within a govt or, McDonald asking the wrong questions during his insider committee briefings such as, "Why didn't "The Company" seize the plane/the spy/the technology when it had the chance?" Keep in mind that when convicted FBI SPY Robert Hanssen (Opus Dei) was arrested it was after he had made a drop in the park for his Russian connection to retrieve. But, it never occured to even one savvy reporter or analyst like Washington Post journalist Robert Novak to ask, "Gee fellas, why didn't you wait and snag the sumbitchin' commie red handed before arresting Hanssen? I mean if the Ruskies (either USSR or Russian Federation) had other friendlies in the FBI, the ADL, etc., it's possible that they knew Hanssen's identity despite his efforts to remain unknown to them, and his immediate arrest after the dead drop could have been a warning not to pick up the package. The FBI didn't know if The Ruskies knew Hanssen's real identity and the fact that he didn't come home that night could have been the signal to a neighbor who watched him for the Ruskies. Or, Hanssen could have had a system worked out where if his contact didn't receive a phone call, a "wrong number from a random pay phone to an untraceable recipient" after the drop then that was the warning not to make the pickup. So, the FBI had reasons not to alert Hanssen until they snagged his contact, and no good reason that I can think of to arrest him before the package he dropped was retrieved. There is one possibility that was never suggested by any media "friendlies", and that was, the FBI didn't want to arrest the spy who picked up Hanssen's packages, hence the deliberate fumble. "Why?" you may ask. Well, suppose the Russians had a contractor "from an unnamed Middle Eastern country" (herein referred to as "UNMEC") with diplomatic immunity make the pickups for them? I'll let others ponder the ramifications of such an arrest and exposure. Imagine how much it would cost politically and financially if that same ("UNMEC") handled all of the coded phone traffic for the White House, had contracts for airport security nationwide and handled the billing for most of the telephone service for the entire US? And, the govt couldn't claim they were caught with their collective kimonos down after that same ("UNMEC") had brokered the deal to sell the 3 axis milling machines (made by Toshiba Japan) we exclusively used to manufacture our top secret, super quiet sub propellers to the Ruskies. Yes, the ("UNMEC") wanted to increase emigration of a certain unnamed religious/ethnic group from Russia to their new homeland ("UNMEC") and so our "trusted ally and good buddies" sold us out, defeated and flushed the entire bazillion dollar program down the Thomas Crapper and yet, we still send them billions..... So, if I made an issue of this and it went viral, would it surprise anyone if I suddenly hanged myself after shooting myself in the head with a 12 ga? (Hey, it could happen! A witness to the JFK assassination "shot himself in the chest five times with a high powered rifle!") And none are immune to this mysterious disease including the deceased Rep. Larry McDonald. If he in his patriotic zeal failed to accept the dynamics of sub rosa international intrigue and with Pollyanna determination to keep America Bolshevik-free causing him to ponder exposing these incongruities, we cannot exclude the possibility that a triad of entrenched commsymps from three ostensibly diametric political central banker chanceries made short work of him, a 747 and 269 passengers and crew of KAL flt 007. ....the larry mcdonald story comes to mind.
"Well my daddy worked in the coal mine ‘Till the company shut it down Then he sat around and drank hisself blind ‘Till we put him back underground"__OXYCONTIN BLUES By Steve Earle
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