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Title: JFK Special: Oswald was in the Doorway, after all!
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URL Source: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/0 ... sk.like&fb_source=home_oneline
Published: Jan 25, 2012
Author: Dr. Ralph Cinque and Jim Fetzer
Post Date: 2012-01-25 22:07:05 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 287
Comments: 4

The release of the notes taken by Dallas Police Department Homicide Detective Will Fritz during his interrogation of Lee Harvey Oswald, the suspected assassin of President John F. Kennedy, in which Lee told Fritz that he was “out front with Bill Shelly” has resurrected a debate of long-standing over whether Oswald was the “Doorway Man” in the famous photograph taken during the assassination by Associated Press photographer James “Ike” Altgens.

In this study, we examine that question. Dr. Fetzer had previously concluded that Oswald was another figure in the Altgens photo, namely, the man who is standing to the right/front of Doorway Man as viewed in the photograph (to Doorway Man’s left/front from his perspective) but whose face and shirt have been obliterated. New observations, first advanced by Ralph Cinque, have convinced Fetzer that Cinque is right: the man in the doorway was Lee Harvey Oswald, after all.

In addition to Cinque’s arguments that the man in the doorway was wearing Oswald’s shirt, Fetzer adds the complementary argument that the shirt of the other figure had to be obscured for the obvious reason that it would have given the game away, which explains why his shirt as well as his face had to be removed. Doorway Man’s face, hairline and the pattern of his shirt were “tweaked” to more closely resemble Lovelady, but the form, the fit, and the lay of his man’s outer-shirt and under-shirt are those of Oswald. So, unless Lovelady was wearing Oswald’s clothing, the evidence that we present leaves no room for reasonable doubt.

The Will Fritz Notes

In JFK: What We Know Now That We Didn’t Know Then (Veterans Today, 21 November 2011), Dr. James H. Fetzer provides a valuable summation of recent advances in JFK assassination research, including the discovery of the written notes of Detective Will Fritz concerning Oswald’s whereabouts during the shooting, as mentioned above. That Oswald told Fritz that he was “out in front with Bill Shelley” contravenes the established belief that he said he was in the lunchroom, where he was shortly before and would be confronted shortly after. Here are those notes:

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Josiah Thompson dealt with this about 40 years ago in his books, Six Seconds in Dallas, by printing a photo taken by the FBI for the Warren Commission of Billy Lovelady, a coworker with the same general physique as Oswald, who was photographed with the same shirt he was wearing on Nov. 22nd, and it is clear that it is Lovelady in the doorway photo and not Oswald.

Shoonra  posted on  2012-01-25   22:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Shoonra (#1)

if you'll scroll down the article, you will see that Cinque and Fetzer discuss Lovelady in detail with many photo comparisons. fwiw. i don't believe that Oswald was the lone shooter whether he was in that doorway or not.

christine  posted on  2012-01-25   23:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine, Shoonra (#2)

i don't believe that Oswald was the lone shooter whether he was in that doorway or not.

Of course he wasn't and he tried to get that out - that he was set up as a patsy before Jack Ruby made sure he couldn't talk and never went to trial. The people who killed Kennedy could not afford a trial as the courts were still more or less honest - unlike today.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-26   4:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

The release of the notes taken by Dallas Police Department Homicide Detective Will Fritz during his interrogation of Lee Harvey Oswald, the suspected assassin of President John F. Kennedy, in which Lee told Fritz that he was “out front with Bill Shelly”

Isn't that pretty close to what is known as "hearsay" even if it was written in notes. JFK had too many enemies in high places with many motives for wanting him dead, for this to have been a lone nut killing.

It is vital to understand that there is no truth without discernment and no wisdom without the truth. What then is “faith” but an effort to confound truth and wisdom?

angK  posted on  2012-01-26   5:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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