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Title: Mitt Romney's Mexican Roots; His Father Was Born In Mexico, Romney Not a Natural Born US Citizen?
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5E6jetXBac
Published: Jan 13, 2012
Author: MrObamanos
Post Date: 2012-01-26 12:21:58 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Mitt Romney, Article II, Section 1, Clause
Views: 250
Comments: 12


Poster Comment:

My research summary:

Mitt Romney's paternal great-frandfather, Miles Park Romney, and other Mormons rejected the Edmund Act of 1882, which declared polygamy a felony. They moved as fugitives into Mexico in 1884. Mitt Romney's paternal grandparents were both born in Utah. His paternal grandfather, Gaskell Romney, was about 13-years old at the time his family crossed the border to live in Mexico and his paternal grandmother, Anna Amelia Pratt, was about 8-years old when her family moved there as well. Mitt Romney's father, George Wilcken Romney, was born to them in Mexico in 1907 and they moved to the U.S. in 1912, when he was 5 years old, to flee the Mexican Revolution -- apparently without immigration documents or citizenship prodedures for their family. Until then, they had chosen to stay in Mexico upon adulthood, marry and have children there in permanent residence.

Even though Mexicans/foreigners are under the mistaken impression that their children must become citizens automatically if born on our soil, an American parent is expected to meet strict requirements as to their age and number of years of residency in this country, registry of the child's birth with a U.S. Consulate/Embassy, passport filings for the child -- that sort of thing -- in order to pass citizenship to their own children born abroad; as is questioned, among other things, in Obama's eligibility case per his mother. At the very least, whether Mitt Romney's father was officially counted as a citizen of Mexico at birth or not, neither of his father's parents would meet such U.S. residency criteria for his father to have been considered a foreign-soil born American citizen through them. Those are the legal lines of questioning per that timeframe which apply to Mitt Romney's eligibility or not for the office of America's President. Without documentation on the citizenship status of his father, Mitt Romney cannot meet the natural born citizenship criteria.

On a sidenote, his maternal grandfather, Harold Arundel LaFount, was born in the New Romney/Romney Marsh coastal area of Southeast England at Birmingham, co. Warwick/Wickshire. This is a link on the old Workhouse/Poorhouse/Prison there, which was one of several that issued its own specially minted currency/workhouse-tokens for relief of the poor during a national shortage of coins around 1812: The Workhouse - Birmingham, Warwickshire. This is a link for The Workhouse - Romney Marsh, Kent. And this is a pic of the old Walt Disney program that some posters might remember: The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh.

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Video: Is Mitt Romney Mexican American? - Watch this video at the YouTube site, after the advertisement

Published on Jan 12, 2012 by CNN

CNN's Erin Burnett discusses whether or not Mitt Romney is Mexican American.

Video: Mrs. Allan Greenspan?/Andrea Mitchell: Romney's Relatives Crossed Boarder Illegally

Uploaded by BreitbartNews on Jan 22, 2012

Article: Andrea Mitchell Says Romney's Family Entered US Illegally | Mediaite

by James Crugnale | 2:02 pm, January 22nd, 2012

Appearing on The Chris Matthews Show, in a discussion on the upcoming Florida primary, Andrea Mitchell claimed that Mitt Romney‘s relatives entered the United States illegally.

“And looking ahead to the next primary in Florida, 30 percent of the Hispanic community is Cuban-American. That’s a smaller proportion, and so the Hispanic community there is different. [sic] “The other interesting little fact is about the Mexican Romneys, those looking back at all of those records say that Mitt Romney should look back at the records because the Romneys that came back from Mexico to the United States, they crossed the border illegally.”

Mitchell’s remarks left conservative columnist Kathleen Parker in stunned silence. “Well, you may have one-upped me on that one, Andrea!” Parker exclaimed incredulously.

RELATED: Mitt Romney Calls For The Deportation Of President Obama’s Uncle

As Newsbusters’ Noel Sheppard notes, it was unclear where Mitchell was basing this claim. Romney’s Mexican roots have been widely reported; this morning, NPR wrote a story about Romney’s Mexican family, but didn’t explore whether his ancestors were documented citizens. [Cont.]

Some comments at the article site:

"the next time you hear those loud war squawks
When Mitt stands to give his Presidential talks
Remember there’s nary a draftee
In Mitt’s Mormon pedigree
‘Cause he’s from a line of purebred ChickenHawks!" -- Charles Ulysses Feney

"Even if George entered the U.S. as not-a-U.S.-citizen (which appears very possible), that still leaves Mitt being born IN the U.S. to an American-born U.S. citizen mother. Now - I wonder if there's ever been a precedent for this situation? Hmm: 44 presidents, leave out the first ones who are exempt from all this because of being founders or alive in the colonies at the time the Constitution was approved, knock out Chester Arthur whose dad was Irish born & who was plagued by rumors he himself was "foreign born" (nothing new under the sun), carry the 8, square the hypotenuse -- now who might be in the exact same situation as Mittens .... oh wait." -- Hout Bosques

"Research it. As a democrat, I don't wish for others to tell me how to think. All my democrat buddies "choose" to be in vogue (they don't dare disagree and be called racist, God forbid you get in critical thinking mode) totally denying the obvious. What do you call what Andrea is associating with Romney. Can you say "birther?" -- Marsan Magia

"Mitt Romney, anchor baby?" -- Fire

From the Description at the opening video, Mitt Romney's Mexican Roots; His Father Was Born In Mexico, Romney Not a Natural Born US Citizen?:

The Romney family's genealogy page states he lost all his "home and possessions" there. But the family later sued the Mexican government and was awarded damages in 1938. This seed money "put the family on a solid financial footing."

A factcheck link used for my research summary: The Ancestors of Mitt Romney

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good grief what a circus. thanks for the interesting post. Was that romney scarecrow named after the romneys?

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Was that romney scarecrow named after the romneys?

No -- Edit to add: not afaik, anyway -- but the Romney Marsh area in SE England isn't fictional and may have been named for them. Not sure, other than his maternal grandfather reportedly migrated here from that region but didn't have the last name Romney; was a French name: LaFount. Romney Marsh may have been named for the paternal side of his family or they may have taken that name from living in that location or from knowing people who did.

I could be wrong but, after further research, I suspect there's a possibility of some name changes prior to the time his family is said to have fled to Mexico (1874), due to investigations and prosecutions of a number of Mormons being pursued again after the Civil War for the heinous Mountain Meadows Massacre of a wagon train, while disguised as Indians. The attacks culminated on September 11, 1857. There were 120 killed and only 17 children under the age of seven spared, who were given to local families. Soon before those trial proceedings began again in 1871, Brigham Young removed some of the Massacre participants from the LDS church in 1870.

Here's a synopsis of the Scarecrow of Romney Marsh from Wikipedia:

Doctor Syn: The Reverend Doctor Christopher Syn is the smuggler hero of a series of novels by Russell Thorndike. The first book, Doctor Syn: A Tale of the Romney Marsh was published in 1915. The story idea came from smuggling in the 18th century Romney Marsh, where brandy and tobacco were brought in at night by boat from France to avoid high tax. Minor battles were fought, sometimes at night, between gangs of smugglers, such as the Hawkhurst Gang and the Revenue, supported by the army and local militias in the South, Kent and the West, Sussex.

The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh, was produced as a three-part television miniseries by Walt Disney in 1963. It starred Patrick McGoohan

The original three-part miniseries version was first shown on Disney's Wonderful World Of Color, February 9, 16 and 23, 1964

So, iirc, he was a Vicar by day and a swashbuckling-smuggler/Robin Hood-type character in scary costume by night. Here's a 4 1/2-min YT clip that kind of explains the storyline in the opening theme-song:

SCARECROW of ROMNEY MARSH

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