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Title: Mitt Romney's Mexican Roots; His Father Was Born In Mexico, Romney Not a Natural Born US Citizen?
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5E6jetXBac
Published: Jan 13, 2012
Author: MrObamanos
Post Date: 2012-01-26 12:21:58 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Mitt Romney, Article II, Section 1, Clause
Views: 288
Comments: 12
Poster Comment: My research summary: Mitt Romney's paternal great-frandfather, Miles Park Romney, and other Mormons rejected the Edmund Act of 1882, which declared polygamy a felony. They moved as fugitives into Mexico in 1884. Mitt Romney's paternal grandparents were both born in Utah. His paternal grandfather, Gaskell Romney, was about 13-years old at the time his family crossed the border to live in Mexico and his paternal grandmother, Anna Amelia Pratt, was about 8-years old when her family moved there as well. Mitt Romney's father, George Wilcken Romney, was born to them in Mexico in 1907 and they moved to the U.S. in 1912, when he was 5 years old, to flee the Mexican Revolution -- apparently without immigration documents or citizenship prodedures for their family. Until then, they had chosen to stay in Mexico upon adulthood, marry and have children there in permanent residence. Even though Mexicans/foreigners are under the mistaken impression that their children must become citizens automatically if born on our soil, an American parent is expected to meet strict requirements as to their age and number of years of residency in this country, registry of the child's birth with a U.S. Consulate/Embassy, passport filings for the child -- that sort of thing -- in order to pass citizenship to their own children born abroad; as is questioned, among other things, in Obama's eligibility case per his mother. At the very least, whether Mitt Romney's father was officially counted as a citizen of Mexico at birth or not, neither of his father's parents would meet such U.S. residency criteria for his father to have been considered a foreign-soil born American citizen through them. Those are the legal lines of questioning per that timeframe which apply to Mitt Romney's eligibility or not for the office of America's President. Without documentation on the citizenship status of his father, Mitt Romney cannot meet the natural born citizenship criteria. On a sidenote, his maternal grandfather, Harold Arundel LaFount, was born in the New Romney/Romney Marsh coastal area of Southeast England at Birmingham, co. Warwick/Wickshire. This is a link on the old Workhouse/Poorhouse/Prison there, which was one of several that issued its own specially minted currency/workhouse-tokens for relief of the poor during a national shortage of coins around 1812: The Workhouse - Birmingham, Warwickshire. This is a link for The Workhouse - Romney Marsh, Kent. And this is a pic of the old Walt Disney program that some posters might remember: The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh. 
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#4. To: GreyLmist (#0)
This is effing moronic. Mitt's father was certainly a US citizen - he was Governor of Michigan and a presidential candidate in 1968. But even if George Romney was not a citizen, Mitt was born in the US and that makes him a natural born citizen.
Do you still not realize that a citizen born in the US does not always equate to being a natural born citizen? In the first place, Shoonra, Utah was not a State at the time Mitt Romney's great-grandfather and family left that territory (compare to Puerto Ricans) and they left as fugitives from the law, which might have some bearing thereafter on the "good moral character" clause of the The Naturalization Act of 1795. Besides that, his grandparents were never adult residents of the U.S. until his father was five years-old, when they entered this country as Mexican War refugees. I think I have posted here before about another example of citizenship not being automatically passed to offspring when the father remained abroad after adulthood, staying to marry and raise children there, as Romney's granparents did. Then there's the Child Citizenship Act of 2000 to consider, for instance: To whom this act applies The child must have at least one U.S. citizen parent by birth or naturalization, be under 18 years of age (have been born on or after February 27, 1983)[1], live in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent, and be admitted as an immigrant for lawful permanent residence. And there's this to consider as well: United States nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Eligibility for public office [sic] While it is true that "natural born citizen" is not defined anywhere within the text of the Constitution and that the Constitution makes use of the phrase "citizen" and "natural born citizen," Supreme Court Decisions from United States v. Wong Kim Ark to the present have considered the distinction to be between natural-born and naturalized citizenship. [My note: That case reviewing those distinctions did not confer natural born citizenship status on Wong Kim Ark.] Chester Arthur (born of an American mother and Irish father, purported birthplace of Canada) was sworn in as President, however his status as a "Natural born citizen" was challenged because he was born with British citizenship[22] (therefore not jus sanguinis) and it is contended, on foreign soil (therefore not jus soli). Some argue that those born abroad to U.S. citizens are not eligible to ascend to the Presidency (not jus soli), since an act of the United States Congress such as the Naturalization Act may not overrule the Constitution (see "Natural born citizen" as presidential qualification).[23] Presidential candidates George W. Romney (born in Mexico), Barry Goldwater and John McCain (born in U.S. territories), were never seriously challenged on the basis of their "natural born" citizenship, but no candidate falling under this classification has ever actually become President. [My note: Nor has Obama become a valid President or a valid Presidential candidate for 2012 either if not a natural born citizen.] Expeditious naturalization of children Effective April 1, 1995, a child born outside the U.S. to a U.S. citizen parent, if not already a citizen by birth because the parent does not meet the residency requirement (see above), may qualify for expeditious naturalization based on the physical presence of the child's grandparent in the U.S. In general the grandparent should have spent five years in the U.S., at least two of which were after the age of 14. The process of naturalization, including the oath of allegiance, must be completed before the child's 18th birthday. It is not necessary for the child to be admitted to the U.S. as a lawful permanent resident.[24] Either the citizenship verifications for Mitt Romney's father can be found to be in proper order, or he can try investigating the possibilty that his grandparents might actually be orphaned children of U.S. citizens from the Mountain Meadows Massacre who were taken into the homes of the Utah locals before the Romney and Pratt sides of his family moved to Mexico. Any questions? Edited two heading-formats.
Props to algore's internet to expose both Willard and the kenyan.
#10. To: Lod (#9)
I'll second that as an accolade to the Internet. :)
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#8. To: Shoonra, All (#4)
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This is effing moronic. Mitt's father was certainly a US citizen - he was Governor of Michigan and a presidential candidate in 1968. But even if George Romney was not a citizen, Mitt was born in the US and that makes him a natural born citizen.
The Child Citizenship Act of 2000 is a United States federal law that allows certain foreign-born, biological and adopted children of United States citizens to acquire United States citizenship automatically. These children did not acquire U.S. citizenship at birth, but they are granted citizenship when they enter the United States as lawful permanent residents. The law modified past rules for child citizenship.
A person who becomes a U.S. citizen through naturalization is not considered a natural born citizen. Consequently, naturalized U.S. citizens are not eligible to become President of the United States or Vice President of the United States, which would ordinarily be the case as established by the Presidential Succession Act. For example, though the Secretary of Commerce and the Secretary of Labor are tenth and eleventh in the presidential line of succession, Elaine Chao and Carlos Gutierrez (respectively former U.S. Secretaries of Labor and Commerce under President George W. Bush) would have been unable to succeed to the presidency because they became U.S. citizens through naturalization. The highest-ranking naturalized citizens to have been excluded from the Presidential Line of Succession were Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright, each of whom would have been fourth in line as Secretary of State had they been natural born citizens.
#9. To: GreyLmist (#8)
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