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Title: How Do You Solve a Problem Like Ron Paul
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PhLTMiyvhg
Published: Jan 25, 2012
Author: jerrilynn
Post Date: 2012-01-28 06:33:10 by GreyLmist
Keywords: Ron Paul
Views: 1073
Comments: 51


Poster Comment:

Lyrics

He gains the vote
He's an antidote to
Overspending every year.

He votes against those bailout funds
And states why "on the air."

And underneath his policies
he's honest, just and fair!

I've even seen him reading the Constitution.

He says "no way" to endless wars,
His constituency is real.
He always stands for liberty,
Our money he won't steal.

They hate for me to say it
But I very firmly feel
Ron Paul can surely win the nomination!

I'd like to say a word in his behalf.
The statists no longer laugh.

How do you solve a problem like Ron Paul?
How do you catch resolve and pin it down?
How do you find a word that means Ron Paul?

A patriot!
A statesman!
White House bound!

Many a thing you know you'd like to ask him,
Many a thing we ought to understand.
But how do you make them stay
And hear what he has to say,
How do you foil the media's blackout plan?

Oh, how do you solve a problem like Ron Paul?
How do you hold liberty in your hand?

When they're with him they're confused,
Out of focus and bemused,
And they never know exactly how to scam.

He's predictable as weather,
Wants to break the statist tether,

He's a patriot,
Not a nut job,
He's our man.

To the statists he's a fright,
Tells the Fed to take a hike,
He can throw a talking head
Right out of spin.

He is gentle,
He is kind,
Not a riddle.

He's prime time.
Their worst nightmare!
Our champion!
He's the man.

How do you solve a problem like Ron Paul?
How do you catch resolve and pin it down?
How do you find a word that means Ron Paul?
A patriot!
A statesman!
White House bound!

Many a thing you know you'd like to ask him,
Many a thing we ought to understand.
But why won't the media play
The things that he has to say?
Why do they dismiss him out of hand?
Oh, how do you solve a problem like Ron Paul?
Restore America Now Ron Paul's the man.

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#2. To: GreyLmist, wudidiz, original_intent, eric stratton, christine, jethro tull, formerlurker, reality check, truth hurts, dont trust any feds, wakeup, ZioScam2012, esso, noone222, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#0)

He gains the vote He's the antidote

He may gain the vote, but they dont count them, & he says nothing about it.This has been covered exhaustively by alternative outlets.So please, dear patriot friends, dont be too devastated when Paul releases his TROTSKY MEMO 2012 version.

Artisan  posted on  2012-01-28   6:47:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#2)

He may gain the vote, but they dont count them, & he says nothing about it.

I lost enchantment with Paul for a few reasons, yours being one of them.

Another is his personal investments in gold holdings, something on the order of 1 to $1.5 million in mines and the like while he's pushing a public policy of a gold currency of some kind. One would think his enemies would have picked up on this and run with it already.

When Paul was on Jay Leno a few weeks ago, he said he wanted to be like Grover Cleveland as president. I was startled by his admission, as Grover was the prez that sold the US Treasury to the Rothschilds and the Morgans in 1895.

If Dr. Paul doesn't know this, he isn't as informed about the history of banking as he claims. If he does know it, then eff him anyway. Either way, I smell a rat. I can't see how he doesn't know it. Reading Murray Rothbard would have clued him in.

It's my humble opinion that Paul was sending a message to the goldbugs. They know their history. His message being "Those crazy, heady days of 1895 when gold was king! I'll bring those days back for you."

I'm done with the hucksters. All of them.

bluegrass  posted on  2012-01-28   15:42:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: bluegrass, All (#9)

When Paul was on Jay Leno a few weeks ago, he said he wanted to be like Grover Cleveland as president. I was startled by his admission, as Grover was the prez that sold the US Treasury to the Rothschilds and the Morgans in 1895.

YouTube video: Ron Paul Joe Rogan on the Tonight Show w Jay Leno - Uploaded by peacefulpatriots on Dec 17, 2011

Starting at 18:49, he said that Gover Cleveland was a great vetoer of Bills and believed in the Gold Standard. On a side-issue, at 17:34, he was complimentary and kind in his opinion of Huntsman but was targeted and smeared soon after by problable Huntsman campaigners with the false-flagged "China Jon" video-hoopla.

Your link says: "We’ve now established that the Rothschilds 'entered into relations' with the US government in 1878."

Hayes was President at that time. Grover Cleveland's terms were 1885-1889 and 1893-1897. His second term began 10 days after the Philadelphia and Reading Railroad went bankrupt and the Panic of 1893, (similar to the Panic of 1873 - called the Long Depression), was kicked off with that bankruptcy prior to his Presidency. The Sherman Silver Purchase Act of 1890, prior to his second term, was blamed along with McKinley tariff protections but, apparently, Gold Reserves were driven down by the overproduction of silver and many silver mines in the west closed permanently. Your article also cites acts of Congress of July 14,1870, January 20, 1871, and January 14, 1875, long before either of Cleveland's inconsecutive terms. What should the Cleveland administration have done? Taken us off the Gold Standard then?

I'm not a Goldbug and the Constitution does not dictate that the U.S. government be in the precious metals mining business to meet the requirement that the States (not the Federal government but the States) use nothing but gold and silver for their debt purposes. At the time the Constitution was ratified, I could be wrong but don't think that there was even a gold or silver mine here. That tells us something but issuing bonds to buy gold from others like the Rothschilds is, imo, tantamount to issuing a Bill of Credit and that's Unconstitutional for the Federal Government, as well as for the States. This is where my thread researching the '60s era removal of silver from our coins was about to go into the topic of Trade Dollars, iirc. I intend to do more work on that subject eventually but I think you're being a bit harsh on Grover Cleveland, bluegrass, under the circumstances.

Mark Twain on Grover Cleveland: "Of all our public men of today he stands first in my reverence & admiration, & the next one stands two-hundred-&-twenty-fifth. He is the only statesman we have now. Cleveland drunk is a more valuable asset to this country than the whole batch of the rest of our public men sober. He is high-minded; all his impulses are great & pure & fine. I wish we had another of this sort.": Grover Cleveland Song video.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-01-29   15:14:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: GreyLmist (#34)

> Grover Cleveland's terms were 1885-1889 and 1893-1897....

I think you may have missed the info further down in the link:

"This agreement entered into this eighth day of February, 1895, between the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States, of the first part, and Messrs. August Belmont and Company, of New York, on behalf of Messrs. N. M. Rothschild and Sons, of London, England, and themselves, and Messrs. J. P. Morgan and Company, of New York, on behalf of Messrs. J. S. Morgan and Company, of London, and themselves, parties of the second part."

Grover Cleveland gave the ok for the Rothschilds and the Morgans to essentially take over the US Treasury. This led to the founding of the Federal Reserve 18 years later. The Money Powers actually took over American money in 1895. The Federal Reserve was merely them planting their flag in the middle of their conquered territory.

Silver was demonetized in 1873. That made the goldbugs/money powers happy, but they're never happy enough. They spent the next 20 years trying to destabilize the US Treasury. They succeeded with the panic of 1893, a panic brought on by the collapse of the railroad bond market. We all know who controlled the bond market....the same crowd that controlled it for most of the 20th century.

Ron Paul knows his history. His untterance of Grover Cleveland on Leno was a message to those goldbugs that know their history.

The Money Powers are divided into two factions: The Debtmongers and their helpers (Bernanke is a helper) and the Goldbug/Hard Assets crowd. The Debtmongers have been running the show since the Depression. Their game is up and the Goldbugs are coming back into their own.

I hope Ron Paul becomes president. It would be a better world in the long run. But he's not above critique, either. No politician ever should be.

bluegrass  posted on  2012-01-29   15:32:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: bluegrass (#35)

I hope Ron Paul becomes president. It would be a better world in the long run. But he's not above critique, either. No politician ever should be.

Right and I don't agree with him on everything -- Goldbugness being one example. I'll try to give this Cleveland issue closer study this evening.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-01-29   15:55:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: GreyLmist (#37)

Just so you know I didn't pull this out of my ear, here's a reference from the era:

Reminiscences of Senator William M. Stewart, of Nevada, 1908.

"...The active cooperation of Grover Cleveland in the manipulation of the currency by the Rothschilds of London and J. Pierpont Morgan of New York was very unpopular with the people. He was accused by both leading Democrats and Republicans of having betrayed his party and of having turned his back upon the Democratic platform of 1884 upon which he was elected."

bluegrass  posted on  2012-01-29   16:23:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: bluegrass (#39)

Just so you know I didn't pull this out of my ear, here's a reference from the era:

Reminiscences of Senator William M. Stewart, of Nevada, 1908.

"...The active cooperation of Grover Cleveland in the manipulation of the currency by the Rothschilds of London and J. Pierpont Morgan of New York was very unpopular with the people. He was accused by both leading Democrats and Republicans of having betrayed his party and of having turned his back upon the Democratic platform of 1884 upon which he was elected."

I didn't think you did that but thanks for that very interesting history. :)

Read through the chapter you linked and skimmed through the next, which mentions Cleveland's appointment to the Supreme Court of a former Confederate and Sen. Stewart's support for his controversial seating, so as to sidestep a Loyalty Oath crisis in the South. It also mentions the "Lodge Force Act", which failed then to put our elections under the control of the Executive Branch but might have reappeared and passed later in the form of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Both of those issues would make good discussion topics as well but back to the Cleveland issue...

Sen. Stewart mentioned "the Silver Delegates" and he would probably be one of them, being from Nevada. He mentioned the Sherman Silver Act, which was later cited by other sources as economically problematic and having some bearing on low gold reserves. I don't know much about all of that and don't know what he means by Cleveland's "raid on the finances of the country" but he seems far more critical of Pres. Harrison than Cleveland. Conditions that led to the Panic were in the works before Cleveland's term then so, gold reserves reportedly being low, I guess I still have basically the same questions about what he should have done regarding a sound money system: taken us off the Gold Standard? Moved us to a Silver Standard only? -- but silver mines were closing down out West. Could he have bought gold from sellers other than the Rothschilds? I don't know but am guessing that the name Rothschild might not have had such dastardly repute at the time as it does now.

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-01-31   22:33:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: GreyLmist (#46)

Could he have bought gold from sellers other than the Rothschilds?

Not in the quantities needed. The Rothschild-Morgan combine had spent the better part of 20 years, 1870's until 1895, sucking gold from the US Treasury by every method they knew.

It was quite the operation: create a gold shortage and manipulate the railroad bond market to cause the 1893 Panic, then step in and lend the US Government its own gold at interest in 1895.

am guessing that the name Rothschild might not have had such dastardly repute at the time as it does now.

They weren't liked much then either. ; )

The secret of the Rothschilds By Mary E. Hobart, 1898

bluegrass  posted on  2012-02-01   22:07:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#51. To: bluegrass, All (#50)

The secret of the Rothschilds By Mary E. Hobart, 1898

What a great book! Thanks for the link to look through it online. I highly recommend it for everyone concerned about America and civilization. My favorite part was on page 49 of Chapter III that says we do not and never did owe them.

It explained much about our problems and those of Cleveland's time as well. I learned that the gold reserves were low because financiers were buying up greenbacks for 30 something cents on a dollar and demading our Treasury redeem them at full dollar value in gold. It also explained the silver manipulations going on then and tariffs "in a nutshell".

I very much liked the island stories starting at page 14 and towards the end. The second was surprisingly like the time-based currency system that I've tried to advance as a possible alternative for the ridiculously fluctuating economy and debt-based monetary systems that are Unconstitutional on a number of levels and worse than useless except to wealthy gamblers. Not only their monetary system but their entire economic and societal valuation system should be scrapped or zoned as not of our Constitutional Republic.

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