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Title: How Not To Argue That We’re Running Out Of Oil
Source: Council on Foreign Relations
URL Source: http://blogs.cfr.org/levi/2012/01/2 ... -that-were-running-out-of-oil/
Published: Jan 28, 2012
Author: Michael Levi
Post Date: 2012-01-28 12:06:03 by lead.and.lag
Keywords: None
Views: 3481
Comments: 257

you can read this article here at the CFR site.

the author, Michael Levi, is the David M. Rubenstein Senior Fellow for Energy and the Environment at the CFR, and his artticle is a mixture of disinformation, bad metaphors, and haywire logic.

his argument, although it's kinda hard to pin down, seems to be: party on, dudes, and dont worry about oil.

my comments, which are languishing, and most likey will die, in "awaiting moderation" limbo, go like this...

"oh, man…

does this mean that the PNAC/AEI/exxon people didnt have to do 9/11 in response to peak oil?

3000 american lives, countless lives elsewhere… wasted, because nobody saw shale oil coming.

what a tragedy."

and...

"here’s a map PNAC’s efforts in response to their misperceptions of peak oil.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1215/pnacprogress6272011.jpg

this article is being discussed at theoildrum, despite attempts to derail it to a discussion of newt's moonbase scheme.

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#1. To: lead.and.lag (#0)

..Levi,... Rubenstein

Kikes. That says it all.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-01-28   12:32:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA2 (#1)

yup, they gotta blow smoke in case people start connecting the dots... good thing to blow a little smoke back at them, once in a while...

but i got to admit i'm suruprised that the CFR, as of right now, posted that first comment i made...

not the map, though... that's getting a little too close to home.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-28   12:36:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lead.and.lag (#2)

If it wasn't for us being over in the ME in the fist place, due to the oil, israel would be screwed. They'd have been pushed into the Med to drown like the rats they are, years ago. They have to keep us involved. Small wonder that kikes write things like this. BTW, I am only going off your interpretation of the article. I didn't read it. I didn't have to.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-01-28   12:42:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PSUSA2, BSUSATOO, christine, TwentyTwelve, cornhuskerkid, Jethro Tull, Lod, James Deffenbach, HighLairEon, wudidiz, intotheabyss, abraxas, lead.and.lag, Phant2000, all (#3)

If it wasn't for us being over in the ME in the fist place, due to the oil, israel would be screwed.

We are not in the Middle East due to the oil. The oil is purely secondary and is important only in that excessive oil production lowers the profit margins of the major oil companies, and provides the income for Arab countries to modernize.

No, the reason we are in the Middle East is to prevent Arab countries from modernizing. Pooooooooooooooor little Israel quakes in their boots at the mere though of an educated and organized Arab world. That is the reason Iraq and Libya were taken down as well as the current assaults on Syria and Iran (the Israeli destruction of Lebanese infrastructure is another). Israel sees its geopolitical and regional dominance at its height by keeping their neighbors mired in the 11th century of Muslim Fundamentalism. Iraq and Libya had a couple of things in common: They were pluralistic and granted full rights to women, and they were rapidly modernizing and spending their oil money on building up infrastructure and human capital i.e., education. Notice in post war Iraq and present day Iran the murder of intellectuals and the well educated - particularly scientists and engineers.

And the most important point tying them together is that none of them had/have a ROTHSCHILD CONTROLLED Central Bank. Even worse Ghadaffi was working to create an African monetary union which would have disempowered Rothschild control through much of Africa.

Trying to spin this as about "Oil" when oil is abundant and readily available is flat bullshit - it is misdirection and blowing smoke up people's asses. It is a classic disinformation technique - spin the available evidence toward a "plausible" but false alternative.

Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

Example: 'The cargo door failed on Flight 800 and caused a catastrophic breakup which ruptured the fuel tank and caused it to explode.'

Proper response: The best definitive example of avoiding issues by this technique is, perhaps, Arlan Specter's Magic Bullet from the Warren Report. This was eloquently defeated in court but media blindly accepted it without challenge. Thus rewarded, disinformationalists do not shrink from its application, even though today, thanks in part to the movie, JFK, most Americans do now understand it was fabricated nonsense. Thus the defense which works best may actually be to cite the Magic Bullet. 'You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imaginative twisting of facts rivals that of Arlan Specter's Magic Bullet in the Warren Report. We all know why the impossible magic bullet was invented. You invent a cargo door problem when there has been not one shred of evidence from the crash investigation to support it, and in fact, actual photos of the cargo door hinges and locks disprove you. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 15 - fit facts to an alternate conclusion)?'

20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-28   13:42:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent (#8)

I dont give 2 shits if you agree with me or not.

Trying to spin this as about "Oil" when oil is abundant and readily available is flat bullshit - it is misdirection and blowing smoke up people's asses. It is a classic disinformation technique - spin the available evidence toward a "plausible" but false alternative.

Even though I dont care what you think, I thought that was funny. I know it wasn't intentionally funny, and that makes it even more funny.

having the kikes in 'israel' gives us a foothold in the ME, AND it also gives the kikes a lot of leverage in getting what they want.

And that is all about oil. Unless, it's all about finding sand for the kids sandboxes.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-01-28   15:06:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA2, BSUSATOO, christine, TwentyTwelve, cornhuskerkid, Jethro Tull, Lod, James Deffenbach, HighLairEon, wudidiz, intotheabyss, abraxas, lead.and.lag, Phant2000, all (#10)

I dont give 2 shits if you agree with me or not.

And this should concern me how?

As usual you use your standard tactic of including inflammatory and offensive language - not that it really bothers me - something we both know at this point is something you do intentionally to create a repugnant aura on 4um. However, contrary to what you might think, please excuse the exaggeration, it offends me not in the least as it simply makes you look stupid and doubly so given that I run rings around you whenever I'm in the mood to hit the punching bag. Mostly you are amusing in your transparency.

As for the laughable contention that the Middle East wars are about oil it is so ludicrous as to occasion only gales of laughter that you would still continue to use that spin line. Only the superficial and media programmed are likely to swallow that whopper. The planet is awash in oil and in fact we're floating on the stuff. Natural gas is so abundant that the price has been going down again as there is more supply than demand - much to the chagrin of the producers, and if we could ever get through the wall of suppression which holds back fusion and zero-point systems all of that excess becomes nearly worthless. No, there are a multitude of systems that make oil and gas as energy sources as outdated as steam - except the banksters and power seekers do not want to let it on to the market as we schmucks would become that much more independent of them and local industry would outstrip China-Mart within a couple of years.

No, the wars in the Middle East are about several things but oil is very very low on the list - other than as a way to restrict energy supplies and control the Hoi Polloi.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-28   16:06:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#13)

it offends me not in the least as it simply makes you look stupid and doubly so given that I run rings around you whenever I'm in the mood to hit the punching bag.

You are on a roll today! lmfao!

Only the superficial and media programmed are likely to swallow that whopper. The planet is awash in oil and in fact we're floating on the stuff.

much to the chagrin of the producers, and if we could ever get through the wall of suppression which holds back fusion and zero-point systems

So that is why researchers are working in these things. It's so they can keep them hidden.

Damn you're stupid. But you try to sound so smart.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-01-28   16:21:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: PSUSA2 (#15)

You are on a roll today! lmfao!

And you're on a Troll today.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-28   16:38:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: Original_Intent (#18) (Edited)

You are on a roll today! lmfao!

And you're on a Troll today.

Thanks for the good belly laugh :)

intotheabyss  posted on  2012-01-28 16:40:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#18)

If you were smart, you'd do what Jed Clampett did. You'd go out into the woods, and shoot a round somewhere. Then sell the oil, get a nice mansion with a "cee-ment' pond, and have some funny adventures.

We're floating on oil, after all. You said so, so it must be true.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-01-28 16:44:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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