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Title: How Not To Argue That We’re Running Out Of Oil
Source: Council on Foreign Relations
URL Source: http://blogs.cfr.org/levi/2012/01/2 ... -that-were-running-out-of-oil/
Published: Jan 28, 2012
Author: Michael Levi
Post Date: 2012-01-28 12:06:03 by lead.and.lag
Keywords: None
Views: 9459
Comments: 257

you can read this article here at the CFR site.

the author, Michael Levi, is the David M. Rubenstein Senior Fellow for Energy and the Environment at the CFR, and his artticle is a mixture of disinformation, bad metaphors, and haywire logic.

his argument, although it's kinda hard to pin down, seems to be: party on, dudes, and dont worry about oil.

my comments, which are languishing, and most likey will die, in "awaiting moderation" limbo, go like this...

"oh, man…

does this mean that the PNAC/AEI/exxon people didnt have to do 9/11 in response to peak oil?

3000 american lives, countless lives elsewhere… wasted, because nobody saw shale oil coming.

what a tragedy."

and...

"here’s a map PNAC’s efforts in response to their misperceptions of peak oil.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1215/pnacprogress6272011.jpg

this article is being discussed at theoildrum, despite attempts to derail it to a discussion of newt's moonbase scheme.

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#222. To: All (#0) (Edited)

why would the CFR want to confuse the peak oil issue?

maybe because they figured out, within 30 seconds of that second plane hitting the towers, that this was the "new jpearl harbor" that their buddies in PNAC wanted?

maybe it took them another 30 seconds to realize that PNAC staged 9/11.

maybe it took them another 30 seconds figure out peak oil, and peak oil's role as motive for the 9/11...

maybe it took them another nano-second and a half to figure out peak oil must be denied at all costs, lest people start connecting the dots.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-31   18:11:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: lead.and.lag (#222)

maybe it took them another nano-second and a half to figure out peak oil must be denied at all costs, lest people start connecting the dots.

People that try and "connect the dots" end up drawing some very strange pictures.

I'd say that they did it only for maintaining stability. Panicky people are stupid people, even more stupid than usual. Tell them that we're running out of oil and you will have panic.

On 9/11 I stopped in a small town in OK to fuel up, because no way would I make it to my next fuel stop. In that small town, Hooker OK with a population of 1900, cars were backed up about a mile, waiting. Inside, it was fucking chaos. If people are that screwed up in the head on that day, what are they going to do when it's the real deal?

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In that small town, Hooker OK with a population of 1900, cars were backed up about a mile, waiting.

after watching my neighbor's tv for a while, i got on my bike to do "man-in-the- street" interviews downtown.

i decided to practice on a kid, maybe eight or ten years old, pushing his bike along the sidewalk... my first interview...

i asked him, "what happened?"

he says, "it's a jew thing." ...and hopped on his bike and rode off before i could ask him anything else.

so you have to wonder how many people know what's going on, have known from the beginning, and are laying low.

it wasnt that hard to figure out, seeing as how israel was getting the shit kicked out of it by the durban human rights conference.

Two delegations, the United States and Israel, withdrew from the conference over objections to a draft document equating Zionism with racism. The final Declaration and Programme of Action did not contain the text that the U.S. and Israel had objected to, that text having been voted out by delegates in the days after the U.S. and Israel withdrew.

many of the potential political aftereffects of the conference were annulled by the September 11, 2001 attacks. The attacks took place just three days after the conference ended, entirely eclipsing it in the news, and significantly affecting international relations and politics.

World Conference against Racism 2001

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#246. To: PSUSA2 (#226)

On 9/11 I stopped in a small town in OK to fuel up, because no way would I make it to my next fuel stop. In that small town, Hooker OK with a population of 1900, cars were backed up about a mile, waiting. Inside, it was fucking chaos. If people are that screwed up in the head on that day, what are they going to do when it's the real deal?

Genetic research suggests that all humans came from a small (6000) population that had been nearly wiped out of genetic existence by various calamities, a random guess here something like 50,000 yo.

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