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Title: How Not To Argue That We’re Running Out Of Oil
Source: Council on Foreign Relations
URL Source: http://blogs.cfr.org/levi/2012/01/2 ... -that-were-running-out-of-oil/
Published: Jan 28, 2012
Author: Michael Levi
Post Date: 2012-01-28 12:06:03 by lead.and.lag
Keywords: None
Views: 8810
Comments: 257

you can read this article here at the CFR site.

the author, Michael Levi, is the David M. Rubenstein Senior Fellow for Energy and the Environment at the CFR, and his artticle is a mixture of disinformation, bad metaphors, and haywire logic.

his argument, although it's kinda hard to pin down, seems to be: party on, dudes, and dont worry about oil.

my comments, which are languishing, and most likey will die, in "awaiting moderation" limbo, go like this...

"oh, man…

does this mean that the PNAC/AEI/exxon people didnt have to do 9/11 in response to peak oil?

3000 american lives, countless lives elsewhere… wasted, because nobody saw shale oil coming.

what a tragedy."

and...

"here’s a map PNAC’s efforts in response to their misperceptions of peak oil.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1215/pnacprogress6272011.jpg

this article is being discussed at theoildrum, despite attempts to derail it to a discussion of newt's moonbase scheme.

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#222. To: All (#0) (Edited)

why would the CFR want to confuse the peak oil issue?

maybe because they figured out, within 30 seconds of that second plane hitting the towers, that this was the "new jpearl harbor" that their buddies in PNAC wanted?

maybe it took them another 30 seconds to realize that PNAC staged 9/11.

maybe it took them another 30 seconds figure out peak oil, and peak oil's role as motive for the 9/11...

maybe it took them another nano-second and a half to figure out peak oil must be denied at all costs, lest people start connecting the dots.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-31   18:11:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: All (#222) (Edited)

in the ten years since 9/11, we havent bothered anyone but countries with oil, or countries that are on strategic pipeline routes.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-31   18:20:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: lead.and.lag, PSUSA2, All (#224)

in the ten years since 9/11, we havent bothered anyone but countries with oil, or countries that are on strategic pipeline routes.

Sure, it IS about oil and natural gas, but not for the reasons you claim. It is about TOTAL CONTROL of the world's energy.

Current wells ARE still viable and more than likely being replensished via underground networks of oil, yet, countries such as Saudi Arabia have ramped down their production DELIBERATELY in order to drive up prices.

So the fact remains, the global elite wish to control EVERY drop of oil on this planet, as he who controls the world's energy, controls the world itself.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-01-31   19:41:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: FormerLurker (#230)

So the fact remains, the global elite wish to control EVERY drop of oil on this planet, as he who controls the world's energy, controls the world itself.

Agreed. But what are you going to do about it? Because, I dont know what to do about it.

Some people can live off grid now, but they are the exception. The majority won't put up with having to do that, until it's too late.

People are waking up, but is it enough, or is it too little too late. Hell if I know.

What are the PTB going to do when the wells dry up and it's too expensive, or outright impossible, to get more oil? The "elites" are just as shortsighted as the sheep are. I'm glad for that.

But personally I think the elites will lose control long before that happens. THey're vicious but not too bright. The only question is, how many sheep will die in the process. And, how many of us will die. I think that the grids will be local, and not national. I dont know what the city folk will do.

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