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Title: How Not To Argue That We’re Running Out Of Oil
Source: Council on Foreign Relations
URL Source: http://blogs.cfr.org/levi/2012/01/2 ... -that-were-running-out-of-oil/
Published: Jan 28, 2012
Author: Michael Levi
Post Date: 2012-01-28 12:06:03 by lead.and.lag
Keywords: None
Views: 9307
Comments: 257

you can read this article here at the CFR site.

the author, Michael Levi, is the David M. Rubenstein Senior Fellow for Energy and the Environment at the CFR, and his artticle is a mixture of disinformation, bad metaphors, and haywire logic.

his argument, although it's kinda hard to pin down, seems to be: party on, dudes, and dont worry about oil.

my comments, which are languishing, and most likey will die, in "awaiting moderation" limbo, go like this...

"oh, man…

does this mean that the PNAC/AEI/exxon people didnt have to do 9/11 in response to peak oil?

3000 american lives, countless lives elsewhere… wasted, because nobody saw shale oil coming.

what a tragedy."

and...

"here’s a map PNAC’s efforts in response to their misperceptions of peak oil.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1215/pnacprogress6272011.jpg

this article is being discussed at theoildrum, despite attempts to derail it to a discussion of newt's moonbase scheme.

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#222. To: All (#0) (Edited)

why would the CFR want to confuse the peak oil issue?

maybe because they figured out, within 30 seconds of that second plane hitting the towers, that this was the "new jpearl harbor" that their buddies in PNAC wanted?

maybe it took them another 30 seconds to realize that PNAC staged 9/11.

maybe it took them another 30 seconds figure out peak oil, and peak oil's role as motive for the 9/11...

maybe it took them another nano-second and a half to figure out peak oil must be denied at all costs, lest people start connecting the dots.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-31   18:11:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

in the ten years since 9/11, we havent bothered anyone but countries with oil, or countries that are on strategic pipeline routes.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-31   18:20:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

in the ten years since 9/11, we havent bothered anyone but countries with oil, or countries that are on strategic pipeline routes.

Sure, it IS about oil and natural gas, but not for the reasons you claim. It is about TOTAL CONTROL of the world's energy.

Current wells ARE still viable and more than likely being replensished via underground networks of oil, yet, countries such as Saudi Arabia have ramped down their production DELIBERATELY in order to drive up prices.

So the fact remains, the global elite wish to control EVERY drop of oil on this planet, as he who controls the world's energy, controls the world itself.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-01-31   19:41:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the global elite wish to control EVERY drop of oil on this planet, as he who controls the world's energy, controls the world itself.

so there's no use worrying about a "new world order" or "one world government" because it's already in place...

...and they have so much control that impoverished nations in asia, africa and south america have to knuckle under... these poor countries cant produce their abiotic oil because this phantom government forbids it.

good deal

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-01-31   19:49:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

these poor countries cant produce their abiotic oil because this phantom government forbids it.

From what I understand, vast untapped sources of oil are beneath the crust, which are still beyond our current technology to access. Perhaps in the future a safe and effective means of drilling down into the upper mantle will be possible, but the technology isn't there yet.

Russia has had some success locating geological areas where there are fissures in the crust allowing oil to pool from deep underground, and have recovered significant amounts from those expeditions.

But to reach the source of the oil, one would have to penetrate much deeper into the earth than has ever been achieved.

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-01-31   20:34:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Russia has had some success locating geological areas where there are fissures in the crust allowing oil to pool from deep underground, and have recovered significant amounts from those expeditions.

But to reach the source of the oil, one would have to penetrate much deeper into the earth than has ever been achieved.

One article I read on the BP oilpocalypse suggested that they might have tapped into one of the deeper layers with the Macondo rig - and that one of the reasons it blew out was that the pressure at that depth was simply too much for their equipment.

I know the Russians have drilled as deep as about 40,000 feet on dry land before they struck oil, but they did eventually strike oil.

We don't know enough yet on the true oil formation process to reliably predict where it will be accessible. However, the Russians appear to be further along than anyone else.

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-01-31   22:02:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#254. To: Original_Intent (#252)

One article I read on the BP oilpocalypse suggested that they might have tapped into one of the deeper layers with the Macondo rig - and that one of the reasons it blew out was that the pressure at that depth was simply too much for their equipment.

That's what I remember, enormous pressure - 40,000 PSI?

tom007  posted on  2012-01-31 22:29:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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