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Title: How Not To Argue That We’re Running Out Of Oil
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Council on Foreign Relations
URL Source: http://blogs.cfr.org/levi/2012/01/2 ... -that-were-running-out-of-oil/
Published: Jan 28, 2012
Author: Michael Levi
Post Date: 2012-01-28 12:06:03 by lead.and.lag
Keywords: None
Views: 4054
Comments: 257
you can read this article here at the CFR site. the author, Michael Levi, is the David M. Rubenstein Senior Fellow for Energy and the Environment at the CFR, and his artticle is a mixture of disinformation, bad metaphors, and haywire logic. his argument, although it's kinda hard to pin down, seems to be: party on, dudes, and dont worry about oil. my comments, which are languishing, and most likey will die, in "awaiting moderation" limbo, go like this... does this mean that the PNAC/AEI/exxon people didnt have to do 9/11 in response to peak oil? 3000 american lives, countless lives elsewhere… wasted, because nobody saw shale oil coming. what a tragedy." and... http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1215/pnacprogress6272011.jpg this article is being discussed at theoildrum, despite attempts to derail it to a discussion of newt's moonbase scheme. "oh, man…
"here’s a map PNAC’s efforts in response to their misperceptions of peak oil.
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#1. To: lead.and.lag (#0)
Kikes. That says it all.
yup, they gotta blow smoke in case people start connecting the dots... good thing to blow a little smoke back at them, once in a while... but i got to admit i'm suruprised that the CFR, as of right now, posted that first comment i made... not the map, though... that's getting a little too close to home.
If it wasn't for us being over in the ME in the fist place, due to the oil, israel would be screwed. They'd have been pushed into the Med to drown like the rats they are, years ago. They have to keep us involved. Small wonder that kikes write things like this. BTW, I am only going off your interpretation of the article. I didn't read it. I didn't have to.
We are not in the Middle East due to the oil. The oil is purely secondary and is important only in that excessive oil production lowers the profit margins of the major oil companies, and provides the income for Arab countries to modernize. No, the reason we are in the Middle East is to prevent Arab countries from modernizing. Pooooooooooooooor little Israel quakes in their boots at the mere though of an educated and organized Arab world. That is the reason Iraq and Libya were taken down as well as the current assaults on Syria and Iran (the Israeli destruction of Lebanese infrastructure is another). Israel sees its geopolitical and regional dominance at its height by keeping their neighbors mired in the 11th century of Muslim Fundamentalism. Iraq and Libya had a couple of things in common: They were pluralistic and granted full rights to women, and they were rapidly modernizing and spending their oil money on building up infrastructure and human capital i.e., education. Notice in post war Iraq and present day Iran the murder of intellectuals and the well educated - particularly scientists and engineers. And the most important point tying them together is that none of them had/have a ROTHSCHILD CONTROLLED Central Bank. Even worse Ghadaffi was working to create an African monetary union which would have disempowered Rothschild control through much of Africa. Trying to spin this as about "Oil" when oil is abundant and readily available is flat bullshit - it is misdirection and blowing smoke up people's asses. It is a classic disinformation technique - spin the available evidence toward a "plausible" but false alternative. Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation 15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place. Example: 'The cargo door failed on Flight 800 and caused a catastrophic breakup which ruptured the fuel tank and caused it to explode.' Proper response: The best definitive example of avoiding issues by this technique is, perhaps, Arlan Specter's Magic Bullet from the Warren Report. This was eloquently defeated in court but media blindly accepted it without challenge. Thus rewarded, disinformationalists do not shrink from its application, even though today, thanks in part to the movie, JFK, most Americans do now understand it was fabricated nonsense. Thus the defense which works best may actually be to cite the Magic Bullet. 'You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imaginative twisting of facts rivals that of Arlan Specter's Magic Bullet in the Warren Report. We all know why the impossible magic bullet was invented. You invent a cargo door problem when there has been not one shred of evidence from the crash investigation to support it, and in fact, actual photos of the cargo door hinges and locks disprove you. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 15 - fit facts to an alternate conclusion)?' 20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.
I dont give 2 shits if you agree with me or not. Trying to spin this as about "Oil" when oil is abundant and readily available is flat bullshit - it is misdirection and blowing smoke up people's asses. It is a classic disinformation technique - spin the available evidence toward a "plausible" but false alternative. Even though I dont care what you think, I thought that was funny. I know it wasn't intentionally funny, and that makes it even more funny. having the kikes in 'israel' gives us a foothold in the ME, AND it also gives the kikes a lot of leverage in getting what they want. And that is all about oil. Unless, it's all about finding sand for the kids sandboxes.
How can it be all about oil when producing states are more than anxious to sell it as a source of much-needed income and also know that American exploration and drilling technology is the best in the world? Iran, for example would love to be selling oil but is constrained from doing so by crazy Jews forcing America to prevent sales through sanctions orchestrated by same crazy zios. In return for oil Iran could use refinery technologies, aircraft and other machine parts from US, an arrangement which would provide much needed jobs for Americans. The oil angle dates back to outdated thinking when everyone thought it should remain at $3/bl. Oil companies subsequently discovered they could become enormously richer with $50 and $100/bl oil with virtually no effect on automobile use.
a couple things, here... first, america was built to accommodate the car, so even though mileage driven has been dropping, we're getting pretty close to minimum possible, given that cars are a necessity, at least the way things are set up now. then there's the cost of getting the crude... a new semisubmersible like the globwater horizontal or whatever might cost $500 million dollars, and the cost of operating it is horrific, seeing as how it might be drilling 200 miles offshore in 10,000 feet of water. ...this compared to the old wells that, when discovered, blew out tens of thousands of barrels a day, on dry land, with the convenience and consequent low expense that implies. then you've got the fact that we've apparently discovered all the huge fields like ghawar, cantarell, da qing, etc... compared to the big old giants, the new discoveries are dribs and drabs. then you got a production decline rate in the old fields, maybe 4-6% a year. then you got rising global competition for the remaining oil, as china industrializes to defend itself from israeli america, and india in its eternal paranoia about china, attempts to keep up by allying itself (temporarily?) with the neocons. what all this adds up to is flat global production of crude oil and condensate (the liquid stuff that comes out of the ground at the wellhead) since late 2004, despite horrendous increases in price and a doubling of drills working since 2001. so until production starts picking up, we have to assume that we've reached peak oil... at least temporarily... and judging from how hard people have been looking for oil since american production peaked in 1970, we're simply not gonna find replacements for those big old giants that have been producing so long, and it's likely that this is it, this is the peak. and that explains exxon's alliance with the AEI, which spawned PNAC, which admitted it needed a "new pearl harbor" to rally support for its project to achieve "benevolent global hegemony" by controlling energy supplies. and we all know by now, or should know, that the AEI is the american wing of the likud party of israel.
...this compared to the old wells that, when discovered, blew out tens of thousands of barrels a day, on dry land, with the convenience and consequent low expense that implies. But it's a conspiracy! The Satanic Illuminati Bohemia Grove Inc is behind it! We're "floating" on oil. OI said so, so it must be true. (he is so smart). So to hell with offshore drilling. Just grab a shovel and start digging. There is no shortage of oil, just as there is no shortage of stupidity.
Who says there's a shortage of oil?
Would you go to the expense and trouble of offshore drilling if you didn't have to? How about shale deposits? I'm no expert by any means, but I know this is not an efficient way to get oil. THey are starting to grasp at straws. Before long, they will be fighting over those straws. Or perhaps that is what they are fighting over now. I think that is more likely. What else are we doing over there? What's the mission? Tell me, because fuck if I know.
How about shale deposits? I'm no expert by any means, but I know this is not an efficient way to get oil. Good points. I don't really know the answers and could look for them but don't really care at this moment. Thing is I don't believe what "they" say, so if they say there's a shortage of oil I'm inclined to disbelieve them. Also, it doesn't make sense that oil is made of fossils. I seriously doubt there were that many dead creatures to make that much oil. The theory of abiotic oil seems far more likely.
It provides support to the illusion that oil is scarce, and provides justification for higher prices. People assume, wrongly, that the operations are solely and only for money. The Alpha Psychotics have more money than they could ever spend rationally. What they are interested in is power and total control.
People assume, wrongly, that the operations are solely and only for money. The Alpha Psychotics have more money than they could ever spend rationally. What they are interested in is power and total control. Illusion? LOL! Yeah, it's all a huge conspiracy. Everyone is in on it. And WTF is an "alpha psychotic"? You just made that term up. Trying to sound smart again, I see. You fail, again. But it would make a great band name.
"Conspiracy Theory" now means any explanation, or even a fact, that is out of step with the government’s explanation and that of its media pimps.. "No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine."--William Blum***** "Whenever I hear the words "conspiracy theory" it usually means someone is getting too close to the truth."----- former CIA employee, Michael Hasty. ***** "Definition---Conspiracy Theory: any conclusion in the context of any topic that 60 Minutes doesn't want mentioned, discussed, or researched."--J Orlin Grabbe ***** "The problem with the conspiracy theory label is that it is overly broad in its condemnation of speculation about political intrigue. The label provides no basis for distinguishing groundless smears from reasonable suspicions warranting investigation. History has shown all too clearly that public trust in high officials is sometimes misplaced." Lance deHaven-Smith. "Beyond Conspiracy Theory: Patterns of High Crime in American Government." American Behavioral Scientist (February 2010)
I am obviously more cynical than you, I have a problem with the word "sometimes". PSUSA2 believes what the MSM tells it and any other theory or explanation is a CT. This creature wants us to be like it and have ultimate trust in the PTB. The quotes about the "winners of wars write the history books" and "unquestioning respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth" (Albert Einstein) are unknown or make no sense to this bizarre creature of unlimited trust.
Stick around for a while, kid. You'll learn. I make allowances for ignorance. The "alternative" media is just as screwed up as the MSM. Trust them if you want. But that would be foolish. Ignorance is forgivable, foolishness isn't. You seem to respect the "alternative" medias authority too much.
Trust me I don't (pun intended) “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” Buddha
Buddha One of the most sublime (whatever that means) paragraphs man has written.
I guess sitting in caves and doing nothing but thinking, even mortal men can come up with some pretty deep stuff from time to time.....
I guess sitting in caves and doing nothing but thinking, even mortal men can come up with some pretty deep stuff from time to time..... Siddhartha Gutahma (sp) was not that man. In his adult years he with lived and observed humanity. And an appropriate sexual dimension to his upbringing. In his youth he was behind royal walls and given an education. He, in my view of things, was the essence of a man who showed us a better way, after the usual man or women was receptive to the new message. POV. USA did not allow voting to women till 100 YO.
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#3. To: lead.and.lag (#2)
#8. To: PSUSA2, BSUSATOO, christine, TwentyTwelve, cornhuskerkid, Jethro Tull, Lod, James Deffenbach, HighLairEon, wudidiz, intotheabyss, abraxas, lead.and.lag, Phant2000, all (#3)
If it wasn't for us being over in the ME in the fist place, due to the oil, israel would be screwed.
#10. To: Original_Intent (#8)
#37. To: PSUSA2 (#10)
And that is all about oil
#40. To: Tatarewicz (#37)
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#43. To: lead.and.lag (#40)
then there's the cost of getting the crude... a new semisubmersible like the globwater horizontal or whatever might cost $500 million dollars, and the cost of operating it is horrific, seeing as how it might be drilling 200 miles offshore in 10,000 feet of water.
#44. To: PSUSA2 (#43)
#46. To: wudidiz (#44)
Who says there's a shortage of oil?
#48. To: PSUSA2 (#46)
Would you go to the expense and trouble of offshore drilling if you didn't have to?
#50. To: wudidiz (#48)
Would you go to the expense and trouble of offshore drilling if you didn't have to?
#53. To: Original_Intent (#50)
(Edited)
It provides support to the illusion that oil is scarce, and provides justification for higher prices.
#60. To: PSUSA2 (#53)
Illusion? LOL! Yeah, it's all a huge conspiracy. Everyone is in on it.
#68. To: Bill D Berger (#60)
History has shown all too clearly that public trust in high officials is sometimes misplaced."
#71. To: intotheabyss (#68)
PSUSA2 believes what the MSM tells it and any other theory or explanation is a CT. This creature wants us to be like it and have ultimate trust in the PTB.
#72. To: PSUSA2 (#71)
The "alternative" media is just as screwed up as the MSM. Trust them if you want.
#75. To: intotheabyss (#72)
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
#76. To: tom007 (#75)
One of the most sublime (whatever that means) paragraphs man has written.
#78. To: intotheabyss (#76)
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One of the most sublime (whatever that means) paragraphs man has written.
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