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Title: Constitutional Sheriffs to Meet in Las Vagas to Discuss Standing Against Federal Tyranny
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Published: Jan 28, 2012
Author: realman2020
Post Date: 2012-01-29 12:20:20 by Buzzard
Keywords: Sheriff Mack, Federal Tyranny
Views: 843
Comments: 58
For a long time until about 10 years ago. The FBI had to ask the county Sheriffs permission before they can come into the county. When the siege on the Branch Davidian community came under attack by Federal Forces. The county Sheriff after the fact died with regret not intervening on the behalf of the Branch Davidians when he had the legal authority to stop the ATF and the FBI from killing the followers of David Koresh. What happened in Waco Texas could have been stopped if the county Sheriff interposed himself between the religious community and the Federal goverment. Since 1988, we have seen the Federal goverment become more brazen attacking the American people through agencies like the ATF and the FBI. The siege at Ruby Ridge and the Branch Davidian community was a wake up call on how the Federal goverment was becoming more tyrannical over the people. The people tried in 1994 with the Republican revolution hoping the stand in the gap between Bill Clinton abusing his power in the office and the people. That was a disappointment because nothing has changed. In 2010, the tea party movement elected a majority o republicans again to stand in the gap between Obama's power grabs. Nothing has changed and all congress did was give him more power to arrest American citizens without due process. The tea Party republicans have been a major disappointment. So what is the remedy the people have left? Sheriff Richard Mack who is a former Sheriff in Arizona in a landmark Supreme Court Decision Prinz, Mack vs Brady Bill that was a victory of state rights defeating the Clinton Administration's anti gun agenda that restored State's rights and the affirmed the power of the county Sheriff. In the ruling Justice Scalia affirmed the President of the United States cannot tel the county sheriff what to do. With the passage of the NDAA and new regulations to make all American criminal on the Federal level with everyday mundane thing we do everyday. So who can stop this Federal abuse of power on the people? Peace Officers Uniting to End State and Federal Tyranny. Las Vegas, NV, Jan 29-31, 2012 - 200 Sheriffs from across the country will be brought together in a convention to reveal to them the powers and rights of their constitutional duties and oaths of office. Many high profile people will be there discussing. Bill of Rights Training from Michael Badnarik Presentation on the Second Amendment from Larry Pratt Presentation on the Tenth Amendment and state sovereignty Presentation on the threat of Agenda 21 to state sovereignty Presentation on Continental Congress 2009’s Articles of Freedom County Sheriff Success Stories on Enforcing the Bill of Rights Presentation on formation of a Sheriff’s Posse Joint Declaration notifying specific federal agencies about specific violations that county sheriffs will no longer tolerate in their counties. This conference might have a ripple effect nationwide where the county sheriffs start standing up against Federal tyranny. Surrounding counties might catch on and follow suit emulating the sheriff who is standing up to the Federal goverment. The county Sheriff is not a political subdivision subordinate to carry out corrupt edicts of the President. The Sheriff is elected by the people accountable to them only. He does not answer to the President, nor the governor. He is accountable only to the voters. Every time the County Sheriff stood up to the Federal goverment. The bureaucrats backed down knowing they have no legal authority to come into the county under the color of law to tyrannize the people. How we will take back our republic is from the ground up and not from the top down. Yes, lets get Ron Paul elected. We also have to start from our local and state goverment starting with the county sheriff. If we can carry a good majority of local governments and county sheriffs saying no to Federal tyranny. We will get our freedom back and our republic restored.
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#1. To: Buzzard (#0)
This is nothing more than a name-gathering operation. 90% of the sheriff's attending will be stooges for the federal government attending only to add names to their regional fusion center's enemies lists while 90% of the audience will be undercover federal agents doing the same thing. I've yet to live in a county where the sheriff was anything less than a federal government puppet. It's the federal government that gives him the money to purchase military goodies, provided by the very same federal government. It's the federal government that gives him the money to hire new thugs to persecute county citizens. It's the federal government that gives him the money to build and staff bigger imprisonment facilities. If and/or when the federal government decides its time to implement martial law or round up undesirables from their enemies lists, it is these very same sheriff's who will ramrod the operation. In the name of terrorism of course. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
I've yet to live in a county where the sheriff was anything less than a federal government puppet. It's the federal government that gives him the money to purchase military goodies, provided by the very same federal government. It's the federal government that gives him the money to hire new thugs to persecute county citizens. It's the federal government that gives him the money to build and staff bigger imprisonment facilities. If and/or when the federal government decides its time to implement martial law or round up undesirables from their enemies lists, it is these very same sheriff's who will ramrod the operation. In the name of terrorism of course. Worthy of framing. there are no good cops. There are only varying degrees of dangerousness. Some are black mambas, some are rattlesnakes. But they are all venomous and all can kill you. And, they'll get away with it. They always do. -------------------------------------------------------- I would say you are right. 200 of all the sheriffs in the country is a pitiful showing. I know the sheriff of my county did not attend as every time he is up for reelection it is on a plank of working with the feds for more asset forfeitures.
We cannot rely on just one path to reclaim our lost liberty. Ron Paul is a good and decent man, but people have to realize that the current ruling establishment of Banksters and Psychiatrists will not allow Ron Paul to ascend to the White House even if they have to assassinate him. However, bit by bit, and inch by inch we can reclaim our liberty working first from the local level. Oppose Agenda 21 and ICLEE at every possible point. If you have a good Sheriff who will oppose Feral Federal incursions upon the free citizenry in his County then support him. If you have a spineless gutless bought off SOB then vote him out. Find a candidate who is a Peace Officer and a defender of Constitutionally protected liberty and support the hell out of him or her. The NeoCons/Israbots (Both tools of the House of Rothschild) are trying to enslave you. That is the reality. What you do about it NOW is your responsibility. Then tell your neighbors. Get involved by supporting a candidate who is working to do the actual job which is to see to the welfare of the local community and jealously defends the free citizenry in his community. One quick litmus test - if he has taken a junket to Israel he has been trained in how to suppress the free citizenry and IS NOT a friend to liberty. Are you going to accept any responsibility for any of this? Because if you did, it might have to be part of a solution. I know these men pretty well that is putting this convetion on. I dare say you would not say to their face the words that you wrote, you would be ashamed to do so. There are a lot of people working very hard to get this country back on track. Only to see the complainers, the whoa is me crowd or the all is lost, making sounds like lowly little sheep. I will not speak for anybody else on this one. For me though, I'll say this.....shut the F*@# up.....your interupting my train of thought.We are trying to get some work done around here!
When you consider that Texas alone has 254 counties, you are correct. It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire
When you consider that Texas alone has 254 counties, you are correct. However, on the positive side, it is a start and is significantly greater than zero. ping
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LOL! Oh look here, It's another government stooge. Hey cunt lip, when people call into your radio shows and go to your website what computer program do you use to forward their telephone numbers and IP addresses to your federal masters? Do you send them to your state fusion centers as well? What's that? I can't hear you. Take Obama's dick out of your mouth. Was their a big taste difference between Republican dick and Democrat dick? Shut the fuck up yourself maggot. Others might fall for your act but as far as I'm concerned you and the rest of you "radio patriot's" are fucking agents of the United States government whose job is to gather information on those stupid enough to call into your false flag radio stations and visit your false flag web sites. Just like that other ass hole who admitted doing the same thing a couple of years ago to try and keep his ass out of jail. Fuck off loser. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Shut the fuck up yourself maggot. Others might fall for your act but as far as I'm concerned you and the rest of you "radio patriot's" are fucking agents of the United States government whose job is to gather information on those stupid enough to call into your false flag radio stations and visit your false flag web sites. Just like that other ass hole who admitted doing the same thing a couple of years ago to try and keep his ass out of jail. Fuck off loser I knew that all that one had to do is bait the hook and looked what just hooked itself.
Yes, it could be worse. Sorry for the negativity. I don't know how people like John S. and other patriot fighters remain as hopeful as they do, but God Bless them! It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Voltaire An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire
I am here at the Convention. Oath Keepers is handling all of the logistical details for the event, since Sheriff Mack is a member of the OK Board of Directors. We just had the first night of the convention. 250 is a start, would you rather it be zero? For those who say these are just stooges, the sheriffs attending aren't just passive attendees, they are here because they are already fighting the feds, are active intellectually and already have interposed themselves between the feds and the people. If you want to bitch and moan about what we are doing here, shut your damn mouth and start doing something. If you aren't willing to help fix the problem, then kindly stop complaining. We don't need sunshine patriots and fair weather friends. A lot of us have already sacrificed much to be where we are. I can't tell you how inspiring it was to stand in a room with 80 sheriffs and county commissioners who are fighting Agenda 21, the EPA and the IRS. Some of them are pushing legislation on the local and state level to protect YOUR rights. If you want to keep running your mouth, FA Hayek fan, come to Vegas and do it to my face. You won't because you are a coward. Jay Stang Oath Keepers VP Texas Chapter Board of Directors
The attack on the Branch Davidians was likely just an experiment by Clinton's Jew Attorney General to find out what Feds could get away with, then use it as a precedent to override state's rights at some future "aggression."
This type thing does not reflect well on your org. He started by opining that this group was feds. He was told to "shut the fuck up" & upon reply, he's threatened with violence. By someone, a cop, who will protect our rights? Better tactic, promote peace. "Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Jay Stang Oath Keepers VP Texas Chapter Board of Directors First off, if you have something to say to me then post it to me not to buzzard. Second of all, not traveling to Las Vegas to say something to some donut raper who can't stand it that a peon doesn't worship the ground he walks on doesn't make me a coward. You have no bearing on my life and are not important enough to drop everything to make the trip. I said my opinion and you can deal with it. However, if you wish to use your time and money to travel to Springfield, MO, on the way back from Las Vegas, kindly drop me a line when you get here and I will be glad meet you and say it you face. You do not scare me. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
A thug is a thug, is a thug. While this convention may very well have some legitimate people attending, so do milita and KKK-like organizations, and it is a known fact that these organizations are plumb full of undercover federal agents or their informants and in some cases it has been the feds who were leading the organization. Knowing this, and knowing how much money the police state is spending looking for "domestic terrorists" it does not seem like a far fetched opinion to think that this convention is exactly what I said it is. I will not apologize for that opinion nor change it because some LEO doesn't like what I have to say. No one should take any LEO at their word. They have not earned this trust and I will not be browbeat into giving it to them. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
any resistance group is likely to have some spooks in it. This is well documented fact & common sense.More to the point though, a FREEDOM4UM by definition means people can post whatever opinion they want.Thats what freedom means. Hopefully decorum remains
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
The problem truly is commercial in nature and not so much political. Circumvention of the Constitution is directly related to the "funny money" system. These sheriffs, if they are the recipients of federal (reserve bank) funding have forfeited their organic authority for 30 pieces of silver. We are all guilty of this fraud to some degree through credit arrangements ultimately controlled by the FEDERAL RESERVE - that answers to no one. Ending the FED will put a major impediment in the globalists agenda. "The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness. This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector " Plato.
if Sheriff Richard Mack weren't involved, i might agree with you, but he is the real deal.
Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy): A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
John Stadtmiller has spent 20 years working in the ditches of this so called Patriot Movement. During that time, how many people have claimed that he has reported their phone numbers or IPs to his "federal masters"? None that I can think of, which pretty much blows away that charge. His past history is a predictor of his integrity IMO. Since it's a given that federal informers pretty much infiltrate most groups and movements, I wouldn't be shocked if a scattering were present at this gathering. I assume that when I go to these meetings (which is very rare), and I could care less. My thought is maybe they'll learn something by attending, and if they don't, let them bring back the Freedom Message back to their lairs.
Well said ... Stadtmiller has a fine record as far as I know and there are surely easier ways to make a better living without confronting the FED and the Zionazis ! Stadtmiller is another person that lives near Austin and is visible to many that post here. "The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness. This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector " Plato.
Heck, if they are making lists at these events, that's all the more reason for more folks to show up. Let's try to get 20 million on their lists and see how they handle that. hehehe
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I won't trust any sheriff's until I see one rescue a U.S. citizen from the clutches of a wrongful detention/arrest by the TSA at an airport or telling a citizen to defy the BATFE and guaranteeing their continued safety into the future. Talk is cheap, action will mean a sheriff putting his own ass on the line for freedom from FedGov tyranny for his constituents.
#2. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#1)
(Edited)
This is nothing more than a name-gathering operation. 90% of the sheriff's attending will be stooges for the federal government attending only to add names to their regional fusion center's enemies lists while 90% of the audience will be undercover federal agents doing the same thing.
Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#3. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#1)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#4. To: Buzzard (#0)
Every time the County Sheriff stood up to the Federal goverment. The bureaucrats backed down knowing they have no legal authority to come into the county under the color of law to tyrannize the people. How we will take back our republic is from the ground up and not from the top down. Yes, lets get Ron Paul elected. We also have to start from our local and state goverment starting with the county sheriff. If we can carry a good majority of local governments and county sheriffs saying no to Federal tyranny. We will get our freedom back and our republic restored.
#5. To: IRTorqued (#3)
I would say you are right. 200 of all the sheriffs in the country is a pitiful showing. I know the sheriff of my county did not attend as every time he is up for reelection it is on a plank of working with the feds for more asset forfeitures.
#6. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#1)
I've yet to live in a county where the sheriff was anything less than a federal government puppet.
#7. To: Original_Intent (#5)
I would say you are right. 200 of all the sheriffs in the country is a pitiful showing.
#8. To: intotheabyss (#7)
I would say you are right. 200 of all the sheriffs in the country is a pitiful showing.
#9. To: Buzzard, *libertarians* (#0)
#10. To: john stadtmiller (#6)
#11. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#10)
To: john stadtmiller LOL! Oh look here, It's another government stooge. Hey cunt lip, when people call into your radio shows and go to your website what computer program do you use to forward their telephone numbers and IP addresses to your federal masters? Do you send them to your state fusion centers as well? What's that? I can't hear you. Take Obama's dick out of your mouth. Was their a big taste difference between Republican dick and Democrat dick?
#12. To: Original_Intent (#8)
However, on the positive side, it is a start and is significantly greater than zero.
#13. To: Buzzard (#0)
#14. To: Buzzard (#0)
What happened in Waco Texas could have been stopped if the county Sheriff interposed himself between the religious community and the Federal government.
#15. To: echo5sierra, F.A. Hayek fan, christine (#13)
do it to my face. You won't because you're a coward.
#16. To: echo5sierra (#13)
If you want to keep running your mouth, FA Hayek fan, come to Vegas and do it to my face. You won't because you are a coward.
#17. To: Artisan, echo5sierra, christine (#15)
#18. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#17)
#19. To: All, Thread (#0)
#20. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#1)
#21. To: christine, four (#20)
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#21)
wouldn't be shocked if a scattering were present at this gathering. I assume that when I go to these meetings (which is very rare), and I could care less. My thought is maybe they'll learn something by attending, and if they don't, let them bring back the Freedom Message back to their lairs.
#23. To: Jethro Tull, all (#21)
"[Ron Paul is] the only one who understands our problems. For the rest of them, it’s like a geography bee — name the country, and they want to fight them,” - Jason Nunn
#24. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#17)
(Edited)
No one should take any LEO at their word. They have not earned this trust and I will not be browbeat into giving it to them.
-Alex Kurtagic
#25. To: X-15 (#24)
Don't hold your breath, not when they might get a surplus APC or 2, and some neat radio gear and weapons they use to "protect" us with. Not to mention those black uniforms with all the padding to make them look bigger than they are. Those glorified janitors and extortionists sure have some neat gear. Talk is cheap, actions will mean a sheriff putting his own ass on the line for freedom from FedGov tyranny for his constituents.
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Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself... Robert Ingersoll
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#21)
Several years ago there was a well known and radio personality who had a show along the lines of Alex Jones, etc. I can't remember his name but from my understanding he had a pretty big name within the patriot movement. In order to try and keep himself out of jail he admitted that he was on the government payroll. To my knowledge no one has claimed damage from his activities either. Since it's a given that federal informers pretty much infiltrate most groups and movements, I wouldn't be shocked if a scattering were present at this gathering. I assume that when I go to these meetings (which is very rare), and I could care less. Nor should you care. You have every right to go and fuck them if they don't like it. My original post was in no way meant to say people shouldn't go. I was merely expressing my cynicism and distrust. Hell, I'm on the no-fly list and all I've ever done is post on political forums. As much money as the federal government is spending spying us I would assume that everyone attending is already on someone's list. My thought is maybe they'll learn something by attending, and if they don't, let them bring back the Freedom Message back to their lairs. You make a good point. There might be one or two that leave with a nagging feeling in the back of their minds, but overall, being the glass half empty guy I am, I believe that most of them are like the LEO prick Grand Island on LP. During that time, how many people have claimed that he has reported their phone numbers or IPs to his "federal masters"? None that I can think of, which pretty much blows away that charge.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#27. To: Critter (#23)
You make a great point. As I stated to JT, my original post was in no way meant to say people shouldn't go. I was merely expressing my cynicism and distrust of the idea in general. For years and years I've been reading about LEO abuses. It's to the point that if you go looking for them you can find multiple, major abuses every single day. So it is hard for me to accept the idea that there are LEO's who think like me. If that makes my outlook unfair towards those LEO's who believe in small government, then what can I say, life's not fair. It wasn't fair for that 11 year old kid in California to be murdered by the LEO at his birthday party while lying face down on the floor with his hands behind his head. It wasn't fair for the DEA to murder that 14 year old girl when while her uncle was teaching her to drive a car. The list of unfairness in regards to the actions of LEO's against innocent, not so innocent, and even out right guilty, American citizen's is a mile long. I wonder how many of those sheriff's are pro-WOD's. The sheriff of Greene county Missouri is a Republican who claims to be a small government conservative but he's a staunch drug warrior who's hand is always out for federal funds for any number of reasons. Heck, if they are making lists at these events, that's all the more reason for more folks to show up. Let's try to get 20 million on their lists and see how they handle that. hehehe
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#28. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#27)
I wonder what the sheriff of Douglas County, MO is like? I'll be living there someday. The sheriff of Greene county Missouri is a Republican who claims to be a small government conservative but he's a staunch drug warrior who's hand is always out for federal funds for any number of reasons.
"[Ron Paul is] the only one who understands our problems. For the rest of them, it’s like a geography bee — name the country, and they want to fight them,” - Jason Nunn
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#29. To: christine (#20)
He's written some good articles for sure. I don't live anywhere near his district but I wish him luck in defeating that POS Lamar Smith. This could still be a government op even with his support. If he's the real deal, and unlike others, I have no reason to believe he's not, he would be the last person to know there are undercover feds in his organization. Of course it's going to be a lot harder to manipulate a group of sheriff's into saying or doing something illegal than it would be for them to manipulate your average angry militia member, KKK member, or Muslim. if Sheriff Richard Mack weren't involved, i might agree with you, but he is the real deal.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#30. To: Critter (#28) (Edited)
I'm unsure. He rose a big stink a couple of years ago with the sheriff of Greene county after that POS big government Republican Billy Long was elected to replace that POS big government Republican Roy Blunt, who moved his criminal organization to the US Senate. A local blogger who lives in Douglas county was saying things on his blog that Long didn't like so he got the sheriff of Greene county along with some other people (whom I can't remember) to try and intimidate the blogger. It blew up in their face and became a pretty big fiasco around here because the Greene Country sheriff had no jurisdiction and the Douglas country sheriff knew nothing about it. As usual though, nothing came of it. The people of SW Missouri for the most part are big government Republicans. In other words, 21st century conservatives. They are pro-WOD, pro-WOT, and pro-police state. They are holier than though fundinuts who put Israel above the United States and want to control how others live while at the same time telling government to leave them alone. As far as politics go, moving here was a big disappointment. But then as a classical liberal everywhere I live will be a big disappointment when it comes to politics. It's either tyranny from the left or tyranny from the right. Pick your poison. At least the cost of living is low and the area is gorgeous.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#31. To: echo5sierra (#13)
Did you meet any Sheriffs from California? I would be very, very interested in supporting any CA LEO's who are willing to obstruct federal harassment of California compliant medicinal cannabis growers. If you can let me know which CA counties (if any) were represented, I'll make sure that they start receiving more support from the MedCan community. I am here at the Convention. ....... the sheriffs attending aren't just passive attendees, they are here because they are already fighting the feds, are active intellectually and already have interposed themselves between the feds and the people.
#32. To: Buzzard, 4 (#31)
according to this fella, Richard may be streaming the convention -
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson
#33. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, john stadtmiller (#10)
wow. you are so wrong on this one. John and his wife, Sandra, have been my and my husband's friends for several years. i've seen firsthand the sacrifices and hard work the two of them have made in their effort to fight the feds and to promote liberty via Republican Broadcasting Network. that attack is unjust and unwarranted. LOL! Oh look here, It's another government stooge. Hey cunt lip, when people call into your radio shows and go to your website what computer program do you use to forward their telephone numbers and IP addresses to your federal masters? Do you send them to your state fusion centers as well? What's that? I can't hear you. Take Obama's dick out of your mouth. Was their a big taste difference between Republican dick and Democrat dick?
Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy): A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
#34. To: All (#32)
sheriffmack.com may have more information.
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson
#35. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#26)
I get where you're coming from Hayek, and i concur, we're a disgusting sitch.
This past Saturday, I drove Penn State kids around Centre county to get RP on
the ballot here in PA. We got the needed signatures, and Paul will be available
to the voters come April. I bought the kids I had pizza and beer at the end of
the day, and came away totally encouraged that some kids 'get it.' I guess what
I'm saying is that altho the odds blow hard against us, we have to use every
tool we have to change the slop we're in. I just can't sit here and do nothing,
and the time for shooting will happen on its own schedule. Peace.
#36. To: christine, Jethro Tull, John Stadtmiller, F.A. Hayek Fan (#20)
I agree. And, I've seen no evidence nor have I ever even heard such an allegation that John Stadtmiller is a stooge like Hal Turner. In fact, Turner was obviously working for the govt because he said and did things with impunity that no one would be allowed to do, i.e. printing the home phone numbers and addresses of US Senators, federal judges, etc.,. F.A. Hayek Fan is quite likely correct (And JT and I concur) that such a gathering will attract stooges, that is, sheriffs who are easily manipulated by the threat of indictment for election fraud, income tax fraud, financial irregularities, as well as the full time grant grubbers, etc., But, does it matter? There are no secrets among those who wish to galvanize the sheriffs into a force to save America. And 200 is a very good start. Once the word gets out (and it will, all sheriffs have annual state gatherings) the numbers will rise because Richard Mack is a man's man among them. And those who attended will return home standing taller and better prepared because of the knowledge they gained. In one GA county the sheriff was all too happy to assist federal drug warriors, so he was booted and replaced with a bib wearing good ol' boy farmer who refused permission for the DEA to raid farms in the county. The reason? Because farmers want to farm at a profit for a change so they are now subsidizing their crops with marijuana. Such lawlessness has a long tradition in the South, including the period known as Prohibition. Ask yourself this: Where did all of the name brand distillers like Jack Daniels go from 1920 to 1933? It doesn't matter how each sheriff and citizen feels about drug (or herb) decriminalization. The issue is overreaching federal power by fiat, and it must be stopped or our children will lead dreary lives that are worse than the most terrible futuristic, Dystopian nightmare films that we've all seen. Despite my many pessimistic posts about the chicken hearted American, the one person who can call forth, organize and launch a serious counter to dog shooting, kitten stomping federal raids is the county sheriff. if Sheriff Richard Mack weren't involved, i might agree with you, but he is the real deal.
"because you're a self-fulfilling prophecy of yourself."__kneel.and.bob
#37. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#17)
I am not, and have never been a Law Enforcement Officer. What a surprise that you run your mouth about me, and you don't know anything about me. I put my real name on my post so you could do just that. You talk a lot of shit, and are typical of keyboard warriors.
#38. To: echo5sierra, Christine (#37)
LOL! You do the threatening and I'm the keyboard warrior? All I did was voice an opinion that most would agree is common sense given the police state mindset of the country in this day and age. You and the other guy took it as a personal affront. It's you and your buddy that started the attacking and you who started with the talk of violence. If anyone is the keyboard warrior it is you not I. We have both posted on this site for years and in most cases we've agreed with each other and have been cordial even when we didn't agree. I voiced my opinion and the reason why I believed the way I do. You and the other guy didn't agree. Fine. However, being how long you and I have both posted on this site and knowing that I am able to hold a rational conversation, you could have taken the opportunity to educate me on why I was wrong instead of attacking me. Especially if you are going to tell everyone that you are a chapter VP of a national organization. I'm not an idiot and can be educated and have on more than one occasion admitted when I am wrong. Maybe, had I known that you and others on this board were involved in this project, I wouldn't have been so cynical and negative in my attitude. Now. If you want to publicize your name that's fine. I am not going to do that. However, I will send you my name PM. I will copy Christine so she can verify that I am not lying to you. I'm pretty sure that my name is in the e-mail address I gave her when I registered. Christine, if that isn't the case let me know and I will send you my e-mail address with my name. Then you will know my name. I've already told you where I live. I've seen you on Youtube. I've got 15 years on you and am still in twice the shape you are in. If you want to meet and go toe-to-toe with me that's fine, but don't expect me to drop what I am doing and spend my time and money to come to you. You are the one who is offended so you come to me. I can give or take an ass whopping with no problem. I am very well acquainted with the people who own the Springfield Fight Club here in Springfield. I'll book us an hour or more there so we can fight without going to jail. With or without gloves and headgear, it's your choice. You let me know when you will be here and I will arrange it. I'm not a keyboard warrior and I'm not afraid of you or any other man on this board or any other board and I won't be bullied.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#39. To: echo5sierra, Christine (#37)
Per the previous post you both have PM
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#40. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#30)
Thanks for that quick political barometer reading out there. I mainly bought there for the reasons you mentioned, plus low taxes and lack of zoning laws and building codes. How far are you from Drury? My land is in Gentryville, south of Drury. I'll be visiting sometime in late Feb, or March. At least the cost of living is low and the area is gorgeous.
"[Ron Paul is] the only one who understands our problems. For the rest of them, it’s like a geography bee — name the country, and they want to fight them,” - Jason Nunn
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